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So I know I’m literally months behind the curve but I finally got around to watching the last few episodes of Picard season 3, and, uh, I have questions. Like, are they gonna address in future series how they just killed off practically everyone in Starfleet leadership? I know the answer is almost certainly not, but I was trying to do the napkin math on everyone under 25 turning on everyone older on every ship in the fleet, and even assuming some of those older folks bunkered up on their respective ships and waiting out the Borgification, at a glance there’s gotta be, what, 50% of Starfleet over 25, and a real good portion of that are now dead in the mutinies? And of those dead people, they’re all the senior officers and whatnot, even with the young people restored that’s leaving the Federation in complete shambles! Hope the Cardassians or whoever haven’t managed to rebuild since the end of the Dominion war or they’re gonna make a play for all the Federation easy pickings in the aftermath.
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Aug 15, 2023 20:13
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Makes sense (relatively speaking), I appreciate the behind the scenes info. Honestly I don’t mind memory-holing silliness in Star Trek, like how many god aliens have we met and forgotten about over the years now, but this whole thing definitely seemed like a big one, especially given modern focuses on maintaining some sense of vague continuity (or BRAND SYNERGY!) between shows. Overall it was definitely a real dumb end to the series but I still had fun, it was a blast seeing the old crew together again, Shaw was a good character who died too soon, and worst case I can just stick this in the same bin as when the TNG Enterprise visited the Space Africa planet, or the Space Irish, or the Space Ambiguously Native American planet. Edit: Professor Beetus posted:I mean he even walked back Ro's death on Twitter so who knows what the gently caress this guy is thinking Wait, what? How is she supposed to have not been sploded, magic last minute transport to a previously undetected ship or what?
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Aug 15, 2023 21:05
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Yeah, seems kind of lopsided or top (saucer) heavy to me, but that might just be the angle of the picture
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Aug 16, 2023 16:49
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Stalins Moustache posted:I've been on a Star Trek binge for about a year and a half now - watched all of TNG, DS9, Voyager, Discovery, Lower Decks and now I'm on the very last episode of Strange New Worlds. That musical episode was hilarious, with Uhura's song and the Klingon boyband being highlights. Where I think I struggle with SNW is just that the seasons are so much shorter, even if there are a lot of duds in series with 24 episodes per season it at least gives way more time to breath, enjoy small casual moments with characters, and not everything has to be a defining moment for the year. You just get to know everyone better in more varied circumstances and relationships, even if those circumstances sometimes include a hereditary sex ghost summoned by magic candle
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Aug 24, 2023 16:29
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Am I the only one tired of Badgey? I think he (it?) is kinda one note yeah but I’ll give credit, the show hasn’t let me down so far so I won’t assume. Besides, Peanut Hamper’s return was one of my favorite episodes, they can do recurring bits pretty well!
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Aug 28, 2023 06:16
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Gaz-L posted:Legit one of my favourite scenes, largely down to Frakes and Goldberg One of those rare instances where Wheaton’s bumbling awkwardness works, since it contrasts so well with the intense aura of charisma absolutely radiating off those two, which is kind of the point of the scene
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Sep 7, 2023 01:21
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Bobulus posted:One of the laugh out loud moments of my youth: I genuinely appreciate how early and then consistently Trek writers recognized the Holodeck would boil down to characters saying “Computer, make me a fuckbot”
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Sep 8, 2023 13:40
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MillennialVulcan posted:Klingons using cloaks while also maintaining honor is part and parcel of their whole bit since TNG started. Their own propaganda is that they're a warrior race and that attitude has trickled down through the classes and castes of society. Even Klingon lawyers and chefs consider their careers as a sort of combat, battle, or honorable struggle to reforge some part of the world into what they want. But behind that all, the highest levels of government and leadership are corrupt as hell. They care nothing for honor, only results, and they will bury the greatest and most honorable of warriors to elevate the schemers and present them as the elite. https://youtu.be/sfNe2uv-bHs
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Sep 11, 2023 21:28
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Huh, just kinda dawned on me re: Lower Decks and death, did Shaxs say if he saw the koala or just the black mountain? Would a nonhuman see an Earth species like that or do they get their own version? Obviously this is very important philosophical stuff that the series should explore in great depth.
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Sep 15, 2023 02:58
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Technowolf posted:The end of PIC should have been Mariner shutting the holodeck off and saying "That was the worst holonovel I've ever seen!" That’s gotta be it, Nepo Crusher stands smirking on the bridge for a moment before T’Ana pounces on him, Shaxs looking out off to the side
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Oct 1, 2023 20:43
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holefoods posted:I came across a toy Defiant at my parent’s house and I wasn’t into Star Trek when I was a kid. I was shocked to see it had a Dairy Queen copyright on the bottom, amazing that Star Trek was enough of a thing that even they got in on the licensing action. I mostly remember getting lovely frisbees in DQ kid’s meals. But instead that time you got a cool frisbee!
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Oct 4, 2023 17:21
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Zaroff posted:It wouldn’t have worked in 1990, but I’d have been happy to see Picard leave for the first half of Season 4 while going through psych treatment after being Locutus. Put Riker in charge, maybe keep Shelby as XO and have half a season of that before Picard returns for… reasons. Look, mud wrestling a Frenchman while wine drunk does wonders
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Oct 10, 2023 02:14
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Grand Fromage posted:One thing I'll give Disco is they do swing for it a lot. I don't think they get any hits but I respect that they try a wide assortment of weird poo poo. It would've been very easy for the Trek revival to just be TNG 2 instead of whatever the gently caress Disco is trying to do. 100%, they went buck wild at the expense of all reason or sense, there were a number of moments I remember my jaw literally dropping at where the story went. It wasn’t usually GOOD but it was always unpredictable, I genuinely appreciated that.
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Oct 11, 2023 02:17
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Knormal posted:That was always my take, which makes me think the Romulans must go buck wild for theirs. They repress their urges too, but instead of making them emotionless robots they’re intensely pent up, frustrated, and miserable about it, hence all the scheming; when pon farr hits they’re actually quite chill, best time to ask them for a favor
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Oct 23, 2023 02:01
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The_Doctor posted:Roll up, roll up! Get yer Klingon bazongas here! Huh, I thought only their foreheads had ridges
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Oct 24, 2023 05:16
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Every season so far has ended with someone leaving or being removed from the crew, every season they’re back in a couple episodes at most, I can’t imagine this’ll be anything different
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Burning_Monk posted:Didn't the writers say Shaw lived, despite... you know dying. We don’t talk about the Black Mountain
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Nov 9, 2023 18:59
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Yeah, agree that Shaw was a great character but I don’t know I like him as a captain of the Titan. Maybe if he’s managing a more practical ship like a freighter or something, would’ve also fit well with his having an engineering background instead of science or diplomacy.
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Nov 9, 2023 20:47
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Marsupial Ape posted:Random high question. Are Star Fleet officer personal logs open records? Like, you could log onto the Star Fleet library and pull Captain Kirk’s logs for personal reading? That is the only way that I can explain how everybody in Lower Decks is able to pull deep lore cuts. Since there is now only Space PBS and educational toys, kids just sit around reading their heroes’ personal logs and mission debriefs. I seem to remember Boimler yelling at Mariner that it’s supposed to be private while she’s reading his aloud, but I’d bet it’s a case by case thing, like Riker would publish and market the hell out of his if given half a chance.
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Nov 15, 2023 01:20
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William Boimler kept the promotion, Brad had to earn his
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Nov 15, 2023 19:34
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Taear posted:I wonder how many serious discovery fans there are out there, really sad about the show being over now There’s a tea shop in town with a Discovery theme to it, even the name references the show, I haven’t made it in there yet but I’m assuming they’re pretty gutted
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Dec 4, 2023 03:58
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Sure is! My girlfriend’s brother is a regular and goes like once a month
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CPColin posted:Ortegas: Flies the ship Wait, when did that ever come up?
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Dec 11, 2023 07:46
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For SNW it feels like people mention La’an’s time traveling episode or “Spock Amok” a lot, or even “The Elysian Kingdom” as some classic goofy fantasy Trek, but the one that always stands out to me is “The Serene Squall”; it’s fairly self contained, I absolutely loved Counselor Aspen flipping between soothing and insightful therapist and over-the-top scenery-chewing ham villain, even the b-plot of Pike leading a pirate mutiny with the power of home cooking is great.
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Gangringo posted:Section 31 was an excellent idea that much like the Borg has become horribly mutated and diluted with overuse. It was a great example of how careful one must be in how a utopia is defended and how ideals and morals are so often ignored when people are given deniability. They were unambiguously presented as antagonists and a betrayal of the ideals of the federation hiding behind a warped sense of "the greater good". So it’s Blue Bloods/NCIS/FBI/et al for Star Trek
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MikeJF posted:Fortunately in the 24th century english culture is extinct except for the accent. Accents and Earl Grey
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zoux posted:I'll say that the vast majority of commentary I come across - especially in the last couple of weeks with the Legacy discussion - is that most people really, really liked season 3 of Picard. I think they're insane but there's no accounting for taste. I mean, there’s absolutely some truth in that getting the TNG crew and set back together for one last romp is a beautiful thing that I love deeply! There’s all the actual real world details, like the why, how, fashion in which it was done, and overall execution that were fetid. But if you take a step back and squint juuuuuuust right. . .
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I enjoy looking at old 50’s and 60’s TV sitcoms and admiring their 30-70 episode seasons. Purestrain run this poo poo into the ground enthusiasm at work!
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Yeah, I won’t pretend to have appreciation for Enterprise compared to my favorites but it was fine, passable even, I put it roughly on par with Voyager.
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Hey, everybody said Archer was unfit to be a captain, let alone one of his particular station, and he founded the whole dang Federation, just think of what Shaw might accomplish, especially now that he’s not actually dead!
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As ever, my favorite Trek episodes don’t tend to involve big action scenes, which is what studios always want for movies. Give me a Star Trek: 12 Angry Men darn it, I want dramatic monologues about principled ethics and the philosophy of humanity from someone in a funny jumpsuit, not laser explosions and dangling over an abyss holding on by one hand
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Blue Moonlight posted:Yeah, Voyager was UPN’s flagship show to launch the network, and was its longest-lived dramatic offering. Pretty sure the only show more successful on the network was WWE Smackdown (giving us everyone’s favorite episode, Tsunkatse). Is it standalone enough that I can dive in after skipping seasons 3 and 4, or am I going to need those for context? Thanks to thread osmosis I know they’re in the future and have modular ships but that’s about it
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FlamingLiberal posted:They are going to make so much ancient cum It is kinda funny to me that there are the parallels between what the Progenitors did and Elon Musk’s fan club’s idea of blasting humans out to seed lots of planets because we’ve hosed Earth up so bad. Like, maybe the Progenitors weren’t some wise, thoughtful ancient race, it was just a couple of d-bags that everybody hated being too obsessed with their weird eugenicist ideas of what life across the galaxy should be?
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boo boo bear posted:rayner understanding that bosses who wanna be friends, or worse 'a family', are loving creeps is a nice change. It did strike me as real funny that the council is so mad at him, “yeah he just spent 30 years as a wartime captain but times are different now”. Are they really? Maybe don’t give him the delicate top secret or diplomatic missions but you really can’t find something out on the frontier for a little more rough and tumble leader?
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Throwing in my kid as an nth vote for “doesn’t care for any Trek except LDS”, Prodigy rang too young for her and for everything else she just quotes the These Old Scientists line at me “why do they all talk so slowly?”
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The Last Call posted:Has Sybok ever been mentioned in the shows? He was referenced and kinda had a 5 second appearance in SNW, at the end of The Serene Squall
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Grand Fromage posted:Yeah the whole thing is just kind of a pointless mess. It feels like they want to drop it since it never went anywhere, but occasionally dip in because they feel bad about dropping it. It's weird. Ironically I thought that would’ve been a good opportunity for Adira, use their special connection to symbiotes despite not being Trill, impulsively volunteer for an emotionally taxing job due to being distressed about Grey, maybe learn a thing or two along the way? But yeah, might as well give Culber something to do besides sympathetic smiling
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TOS is the Wild West of the Prime Directive, move fast break things make it up as you go who gives a poo poo we’re in uncharted territory stuff. Eventually by TNG the Federation is bureaucratized and becomes an organization helmed by stuff middle managers who haven’t left their desks in decades and can’t fathom doing anything but what the letter of the law says regardless of consequence. Then DS9 gives those guys an excuse to go full fascist, leading to the openly uncaring and cruel militarism seen in Picard. United Federation of Planets: The American Dream!
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8one6 posted:gently caress it. Hard reboot of the franchise. Now the only thing that counts is Strange New Worlds, but we're replacing Spock's actor with Gene's original version of Betazeds so now Vulcans have three tits. Counter offer, keep Ethan Peck and give him three tits
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