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Namtab posted:With thunderous applause *applauds thunderously*
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*me in like 2005* gently caress. that's deep man
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just the biggest, most ugely applause
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Namtab posted:George is an astute political commentator god bless george for his deconstruction of liberal democracy and advocacy for worker states
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Helianthus Annuus posted:hosed up if true It true!
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it's such a memorable line... the prequels are full of them
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im booing, not because i know whats going on, im just being a rebel (haha)
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The battle drouds represent automation, the enemy of the proletariat clones
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If democracy was so laudable to begin with it would have maintained better checks and balances on palpatine to ensure that he had to attempt to carry out the war in good faith. George's position is essentially that people are fundamentally disinterested and will allow dictators to seize power through incompetence and he may well be right.
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Now bear in mind I'm not saying he made good movies or anything or even that in his mind this was the story he was trying to tell.
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reignofevil posted:If democracy was so laudable to begin with it would have maintained better checks and balances on palpatine to ensure that he had to attempt to carry out the war in good faith. George's position is essentially that people are fundamentally disinterested and will allow dictators to seize power through incompetence and he may well be right. tbf it did take him 40 years between becoming chancellor and dissolving the senate
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Sometimes its the story in our hearts that count, like how jar jar is the essence of literalism
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Fallen Hamprince posted:*me in like 2005* gently caress. that's deep man *me, now in 2020* drat. thats deep
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I've heard arguments that George should have made the Jedi more sinister in the prequels but honestly they're already pretty fuckin' bad. Remember in Attack of the Clones where Obi-Wan slices that assassin's arm off in the middle of a crowded bar and Anakin just cows the crowd with "Jedi business, go back to your drinks."? Or when Yoda and Mace Windu tell Obi-Wan "yeah, grab that bounty hunter, drag his rear end back here. question him, we will."
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Palpatine succeeded by manipulating the corporations in which he had an interest into conflict with the state and then holding them up as a boogeyman. They’re the perfect boogeyman because they are in fact evil as poo poo and will make people genuinely, unironically glad when a ruthless tyrant arrives to crush them at whatever price.
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the prequels depict a stagnant liberal democracy's slide into fascism. the man's a genius.
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Democracy Now! only it's hosted by a cyclops elephant
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I've heard arguments that George should have made the Jedi more sinister in the prequels but honestly they're already pretty fuckin' bad. Remember in Attack of the Clones where Obi-Wan slices that assassin's arm off in the middle of a crowded bar and Anakin just cows the crowd with "Jedi business, go back to your drinks."? Or when Yoda and Mace Windu tell Obi-Wan "yeah, grab that bounty hunter, drag his rear end back here. question him, we will." The Jedi were always loving assholes lol. Obi-wan deliberately lied to and manipulated Luke from the moment he met him in the Wastes. He continues to defend this lie literally from beyond the grave. The Jedi ideology isn’t an absolute moral good and all Lucas’ stories, and a lot of the better non-Lucas stuff, accept this and proceed from that point of view.
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I would have preferred if democracy died to the senate lolling real hard, just hooting and hollering away
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Namtab posted:I would have preferred if democracy died to the senate lolling real hard, just hooting and hollering away did palpy not cackle after his speech?
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Raskolnikov38 posted:did palpy not cackle after his speech? Yeah but think how much better it would have been if he laughed and the world laughed with him
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exmarx posted:the prequels depict a stagnant liberal democracy's slide into fascism. the man's a genius. The prequels are stupid, which ended up being a pretty accurate prediction for the world also
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Pick posted:The prequels are stupid, which ended up being a pretty accurate prediction for the world also
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Funny because the prequels are how a good example of how art dies, with stories and characters being ignored in order to convey heavy-handed and unconvincing tales of politics. Regardless of how correct the message is. Oh yeah, don't forget fart jokes
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Lets keep this thread on topic by discussing other good noises democracy dying makes
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Namtab posted:Lets keep this thread on topic by discussing other good noises democracy dying makes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIYVMwi-cVE
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reignofevil posted:If democracy was so laudable to begin with it would have maintained better checks and balances on palpatine to ensure that he had to attempt to carry out the war in good faith. George's position is essentially that people are fundamentally disinterested and will allow dictators to seize power through incompetence and he may well be right. Definitely stood the test of time so far
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El Generico posted:if democracy died with nobody really noticing then maybe he's a genius But did it make a noise
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Democracy dies when you flush it down the toilet It takes 10 or 15 flushes
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The Galatic Republic failed because it didn't adopt my extremely specific ideas on federal corporatism
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ashpanash posted:Funny because the prequels are how a good example of how art dies, I heard that some art critics bemoaned the original Star Wars as a degenerate mess of indulgent nostalgia, heralding the decline of American empire and honestly looking back over the last forty years I think they may have been right but I still love me a good fuckin' star war
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I heard that some art critics bemoaned the original Star Wars as a degenerate mess of indulgent nostalgia, heralding the decline of American empire Not empty-quoting this. I think one of the best things that the original trilogy did was introduce a science fiction franchise that wasn't glitz and buck rogers chrome, where poo poo is dirty and ugly because it was built by space truckers for space truckers. Real world design also makes art critics cringe. On topic, I do wish there had been a bit more of a nod to the jedi being a religious order of secret police with mind control powers.
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