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StrangersInTheNight
Dec 31, 2007
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je1 healthcare posted:

There's some truth to it, the white youtubers that the Chinese government pays to gloss over Uyghur abuses do a far better job making the country look safe and sane, compared to anything coming out of CGTN.

RT has also made far more headway in building a captive western audience, even if it is among lunatics.

So yeh WTF is up with this? I've noticed a vein of leftist folks very very very sure the Uyghur abuses aren't happening because 'all the evidence comes from state media', but I can't find who tf started it and why it's picked up so much traction to just full-on deny that anything is going on - the common line is it's all a US State Dept ruse to convince us that 'China Bad'.

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StrangersInTheNight
Dec 31, 2007
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Warbadger posted:

I dunno, the people who made the decision to host the games definitely got what they wanted in Sochi. Tons of money could be shifted around through graft and the dictator got to show off on domestic media while pulling down more gold medals for his flag through a mass doping scheme that would have been very difficult to pull off overseas. As a bonus there's even the possibility somebody got record a bunch of footage of naked athletes!

Supposing you can manage the domestic narrative and don't give a gently caress about the average person it's a great deal.

The world being distracted with Sochi (as well as the goodwill built up from it) was what allowed Putin to then annex Crimea. The Sochi Olympics took place from Feb 7-23 2014, the annexation began on Feb 20th, 2014. The Olympics hadn't even ended when he made his move.

Sochi was massively successful for Putin's needs. By all accounts, he rigged the games by creating a state-run doping program, and clearly used it to rake in money (the facilities lol), but Russia got a record 33 medals at the time (most are now disqualified), which was his aim. By making Russia appear as winners to themselves, he was able to create a swell of national pride enough that they confidently backed him during the annexation and rode a populism wave from there.

We are technically still dealing with the aftermath of what began with the Sochi Olympics, what with Ukraine and Russian and NATO being a hot topic.

StrangersInTheNight fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Feb 9, 2022

StrangersInTheNight
Dec 31, 2007
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Wait, how does it work that the country folk are less racist than in Tokyo? Genuinely curious how that dynamic works.

StrangersInTheNight
Dec 31, 2007
ABSOLUTE FUCKING GUDGEON
Holy poo poo, yeah they got me too. I've only seen one of their stores, and it was 2018 in the EU. All the prices were in yen! I dug up something I bought there and bc I'm a nerd ofc it still has all the label info, holy poo poo they really did lie and even put a Japanese headquarters address and everything

StrangersInTheNight
Dec 31, 2007
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a lot of tankies are convinced that the reporting on China's authoritarian ways is dressed up by the CIA for manufacturing consent from the West regarding attacking China

I've seen someone reject literally all reporting by American or European reporters as simply 'China Bad' and not to be trusted. So what, you're supposed to just...take the Chinese govt at face value?

WTF you'd never do that with the US govt, why the hell would you simp for another country's govt - because it's contrarian to believe them wholeheartedly? Because a Good Communist follows the party line? gently caress that man, that ain't leftist or revolutionary, just believing what the powerful tell you.

StrangersInTheNight fucked around with this message at 13:47 on Oct 28, 2022

StrangersInTheNight
Dec 31, 2007
ABSOLUTE FUCKING GUDGEON
I worked for a Japanese woman helping her run an international business for a year and a half and I will never ever ever do that again because yes I was constantly in trouble for not reading between the lines, but even worse it wasn't overt trouble just a lovely low-level awkward boil where she was just incensed at me all the time but wouldn't say it or make any comment to help me get better in any manner. Requests for direct feedback were simply ignored.

I still get flashbacks to when I asked her how She would like to split the work of responding to emails (we shared one business email for the whole business and she had some she preferred to handle herself, and some she wanted me to be on top of personally), she just said 'I think it's rather clear how we should handle this, don't you?' and then moved on to having a phone call with a client. N....no! It's not! That's why I asked!!!

Seriously, I had to up the amount of therapy sessions during that time to cope with the stress of always loving up but not knowing how. Just knowing I was inexplicably never doing my job right in my boss's eyes, but not able to get any clear direction, now matter what approach I took.

StrangersInTheNight fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Jan 25, 2023

StrangersInTheNight
Dec 31, 2007
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Yeh, I get that we want to stay away from Otherizing people, and it is always a good reminder to be aware of it. But, culture is pretty much the main way we align ourselves as people nowadays, it's how we tribalize, and differences in expectations and behaviors do happen that cause culture shocks. Otherwise this thread wouldn't exist.

StrangersInTheNight
Dec 31, 2007
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BrainDance posted:

That whole marriage from what you've told us sounds like it's at its end and it should end with him and his kids not in China. This sounds lovely to say but if he can't be assed to learn how to install amap he needs to get his poo poo together if he ever wants to see his children again.

loving thank you. All the people reacting that this is 'normal' was wigging me out. Like, even if we just break it down to the facts we've heard and nothing else, two repressed people making their mode of communication 'not saying anything until a complete mental breakdown occurs' is some poo poo he should get out of, if he can!

But to have a hope of getting out quickly, he needs to find some support outside of his brother, halfway across the world, who knows nothing of how he can proceed. He needs someone nearby who knows how things work.

StrangersInTheNight fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Feb 25, 2023

StrangersInTheNight
Dec 31, 2007
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Oh yeah, it's just interesting how it's changed expectations from 'that's hosed up' to 'thats hosed up but is it real abuse' and the answer is yes :psyduck: it's still abuse even if it happens often

StrangersInTheNight
Dec 31, 2007
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I hope once the divorce dust settles your brother is able to get some therapy and crack open the egg of his mind and pull a whole-rear end person out of there. Bc right now he just sounds like a machine designed to destroy relationships.

StrangersInTheNight
Dec 31, 2007
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SerthVarnee posted:

Hahaha I think that depends on whether you ask my brother or his wife.
Answers will vary between "loving NEVER AGAIN" and "hopefully soon"

What straight people consider a successful marriage continues to baffle me

StrangersInTheNight
Dec 31, 2007
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Mr. Nice! posted:

The USA has been the bad guy in most ways historically.

This if course means discussing or most importantly, criticizing any other nations means we ultimately need to pivot to discussing the US. Because, obviously, we're the center of the world, and it should always be about us. No one else's decisions matter or have weight. Other countries? HAH. Not on my watch.

It is only the US in the entire world and, nothing else happens. So obviously, we should only ever focus on the US, in any and every discussion.

StrangersInTheNight
Dec 31, 2007
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Everyone should criticize the govt always. Every government. Even if it it a communist govt that is 'for the people'. Frankly, the people should be involved and criticizing especially if it a govt for the to people, that's the process of active governance!

StrangersInTheNight fucked around with this message at 01:59 on Dec 14, 2023

StrangersInTheNight
Dec 31, 2007
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Rinkles posted:

what the hell

lol i had no idea the Its Always Sunny plot point of Frank cheating at chess using anal beads was based off a headline

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WycN_ZklJBo

StrangersInTheNight
Dec 31, 2007
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'Very little changed for the US after the US Revolution'? Uh. What?? What.

StrangersInTheNight
Dec 31, 2007
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Yeah some of that wanting their own Korean boyfriend stuff is because of the stereotype that Asian men are less masculine overall - so there's this idealized romantic ideal of a gentle Asian lover vs rough American/European men. So it's not like that sorta racism went away, Western people still feminize Asian men, it's just become 'ok so what if they're less masculine, that makes them better! 😍'

StrangersInTheNight
Dec 31, 2007
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386-SX 25Mhz VGA posted:

the cpc seems pretty sincerely leftist in the Dengist “use capitalism to build socialism” way, but afaik they have never claimed to have completed building socialism let alone communism. The “china is a communist state” thing is probably just confusion from the name of the cpc and the western habit of conflating socialism or attempts to get there as communism

Noooo unfortunately there's a whole breed of tankie that believes the following -

The Western press is involved in a campaign of manufactured consent against China, and thus is filling the heads of American citizens with anti-Chinese propaganda, spreading lies about it as a fascist state, the purpose being to undermine communism in the minds and hearts of the populace at all costs, as it's a threat to capitalist democracy. Thus, it behooves one to look beneath the veil - and to deduce that China is actually communist and good, as is proven by the capitalist West's desire to take it down. When framed in this context, China and Russia are seen and idealized as the last bastions of communism, and are targets of the West because of this, and their pushing back is a survival tactic to protect communism, to prevent it from being eradicated by capitalist hegemony.

Trying to explain that China is not communist gets hand-waved as part of the propaganda campaign. Anything bad one could say about China is fully disregarded as part of this, and there's even a whole line of thinking built in about anyone who does speak up about China - that the US pays Chinese ex-pats to get up and talk in front of audiences in order to spread the idea that China is a fascist hellstate. So any time someone is like, hey this thing in China is bad, their response is haha oh you fools - it's alllll part of the propaganda campaign to take down communism.

This is also how you get leftists who support Russia invading Ukraine - it's Russian communism trying to protect itself against the expansionist NATO, as West-supporting Ukraine was a threat to their communist way of life.*

NOTE: I don't believe this, gently caress Putin and gently caress Russian imperialism, just like gently caress Israel. Support Ukraine, support Palestine.

StrangersInTheNight fucked around with this message at 14:13 on Apr 5, 2024

StrangersInTheNight
Dec 31, 2007
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I keep wondering how the gently caress Heaven Official's Blessing got made and is internationally distributed? Danmei authors are getting jailed but at the same time there's this incredibly popular coming out of China about two men who love each other. Well, one man who simps hard for another who is clueless as gently caress.

I've heard that it's censored in China? The second season wasn't even shown? So does the US and the rest of the world actually have access to a Chinese media property that the Chinese citizens themselves can't watch?

StrangersInTheNight fucked around with this message at 15:20 on May 13, 2024

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StrangersInTheNight
Dec 31, 2007
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While you could claim it's mostly subtextual, by the end of the first season, there's absolutely no question about the fact that one guy is head over heels for the other. The only thing one could argue is left to interpretation is whether it is reciprocated - our main character has a monk-like ascetic nature where romantic love just isn't a part of his world. That's pretty much where the romance comes in, is him figuring out over time that maybe this isn't just good friendship.

StrangersInTheNight fucked around with this message at 16:57 on May 13, 2024

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