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One time he told a kid that A New Hope was garbage and to watch better movies. He wasn't wrong.
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I still don't understand why he was such a shithead about it. Like I get it, we all take jobs to pay the bills, but he was for real pissed the movie did well. I'm guessing it's because he took a flat salary instead of a percentage.
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Jan 29, 2020 16:26
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He did get a percentage if I recall correctly. It was just changed from they agreed upon after it became so successful.
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Jan 29, 2020 16:30
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"Serious" dramatic actors willing to do genre stuff is a relatively new development (due to the insane amounts of money to be made)
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Jan 29, 2020 16:31
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Yeah, he did. And now he’s loving dead.
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Jan 29, 2020 16:46
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IIRC he was the one who suggested that Obi-Wan gets killed in ANH, or at least didn't complain when he first saw that in the script.
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Jan 29, 2020 16:49
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zoux posted:"Serious" dramatic actors willing to do genre stuff is a relatively new development (due to the insane amounts of money to be made) I mean it's super not but ok
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Jan 29, 2020 16:50
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my dog died im sad posted:He did get a percentage if I recall correctly. It was just changed from they agreed upon after it became so successful. It was changed so he got even more money.
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Jan 29, 2020 16:52
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Mooey Cow posted:It was changed so he got even more money. Hell yeah
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Jan 29, 2020 16:54
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He thought the script was garbage after the first reading (And during filming) which - tbh if you're a traditional actor acting in traditional things then a wacky sci-fi caper might seem weird - ANH was successful partly because it was a divergence from anything else being shown at the time. After seeing the premiere, he admitted he had a great time watching the film
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Jan 29, 2020 16:55
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zoux posted:"Serious" dramatic actors willing to do genre stuff is a relatively new development (due to the insane amounts of money to be made) it's funny to see the new Hollywood standard career trajectory. You gotta do some 'serious' award contender movies early in your career in order to hopefully land the role of 'Jerbonicus Cranpissus, Space Wizard.' Spend 12 hours a day for 6 months suspended by cables in front of a green screen, repeatedly screaming 'No, Gropanus! We can't let him hold the Dalbomal Crystal!' Then do press all day, every day for 2 months, plastering on a big fake smile to talk about how amazingly creative this film based on a 30 year old series of comic books/children's novels is, and how there's actually a lot of weight and nuance to both the story behind the Dalbomal Crystal Saga and a role like Jerbonicus, in a way that puts the character on a level with the great heroes of classic theater. Do that for a decade before finally breaking down and admitting that the movies were a pain to work on, you need a break, you need to get back to your roots. Go do a few 'serious' award contender movies about bad marriages or the Holocaust or whatever, and begin the cycle anew. But it's all worth it, because you are insanely wealthy and get to drag the ol' pineapple through mountains of cocaine and the hottest starlets in town.
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my dog died im sad posted:He did get a percentage if I recall correctly. It was just changed from they agreed upon after it became so successful. as he told the story, he was offered a %age, he asked that it be 2%, later was told he could have an extra half per-cent, and when he asked afterward to get it down in writing they were like “oh yeah that .25% we talked about, sure thing”
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Jan 29, 2020 17:01
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Chuck Buried Treasure posted:Yeah, he did. And now he’s loving dead. coincidence??
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Jan 29, 2020 17:02
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DrAlexanderTobacco posted:He thought the script was garbage after the first reading (And during filming) which - tbh if you're a traditional actor acting in traditional things then a wacky sci-fi caper might seem weird - ANH was successful partly because it was a divergence from anything else being shown at the time. he thought the dialogue was garbage but he said that he couldnt stop reading the script for the story itself
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JethroMcB posted:it's funny to see the new Hollywood standard career trajectory. You gotta do some 'serious' award contender movies early in your career in order to hopefully land the role of 'Jerbonicus Cranpissus, Space Wizard.' Spend 12 hours a day for 6 months suspended by cables in front of a green screen, repeatedly screaming 'No, Gropanus! We can't let him hold the Dalbomal Crystal!' Then do press all day, every day for 2 months, plastering on a big fake smile to talk about how amazingly creative this film based on a 30 year old series of comic books/children's novels is, and how there's actually a lot of weight and nuance to both the story behind the Dalbomal Crystal Saga and a role like Jerbonicus, in a way that puts the character on a level with the great heroes of classic theater. Do that for a decade before finally breaking down and admitting that the movies were a pain to work on, you need a break, you need to get back to your roots. Go do a few 'serious' award contender movies about bad marriages or the Holocaust or whatever, and begin the cycle anew. That's how you make Sir Ian money
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Squizzle posted:as he told the story, he was offered a %age, he asked that it be 2%, later was told he could have an extra half per-cent, and when he asked afterward to get it down in writing they were like “oh yeah that .25% we talked about, sure thing” Here he is telling the story btw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IxN0N35skE
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Jan 29, 2020 17:16
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We can change history right now and everyone here can start giving me all their money in exchange for me doing nothing.
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Jan 29, 2020 17:21
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JethroMcB posted:it's funny to see the new Hollywood standard career trajectory. You gotta do some 'serious' award contender movies early in your career in order to hopefully land the role of 'Jerbonicus Cranpissus, Space Wizard.' Spend 12 hours a day for 6 months suspended by cables in front of a green screen, repeatedly screaming 'No, Gropanus! We can't let him hold the Dalbomal Crystal!' Then do press all day, every day for 2 months, plastering on a big fake smile to talk about how amazingly creative this film based on a 30 year old series of comic books/children's novels is, and how there's actually a lot of weight and nuance to both the story behind the Dalbomal Crystal Saga and a role like Jerbonicus, in a way that puts the character on a level with the great heroes of classic theater. Do that for a decade before finally breaking down and admitting that the movies were a pain to work on, you need a break, you need to get back to your roots. Go do a few 'serious' award contender movies about bad marriages or the Holocaust or whatever, and begin the cycle anew. like one thing to get an unknown guy in there whose career is weak and starting off and needs the big break, and they later turn to hate all the fandoms/nerds and fame that comes with it but hey at least they're now worth 50 million $ and have a famous resume.
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Jan 29, 2020 17:29
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Squizzle posted:he thought the dialogue was garbage but he said that he couldnt stop reading the script for the story itself Yeah that sounds about right! Alec hating Star Wars is just a meme, nothing else
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Jan 29, 2020 18:05
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Xaris posted:yeah it's kinda funny, you get Serious Mega-Rich Actor/tress all lining up to play Generic Marvel/DC Batman Superman James Bond Iron Man Captain blahblah and then they do it and immediately each and every single one turn around and say how awful it was and such a mistake to do it... and then do it all over again I get why they come back, though; by that point they've typically hit an age where now they have to either play a mentor or a villain, which means they have like half the screentime at best and get to go as big as they want No more insane workout regime and studio-mandated diet, they get to smoke a bowl and hang out by crafty all day until they get to come ham it up, yelling at a tennis ball knowing that none of this poo poo matters
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Jan 29, 2020 18:22
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I've never heard anyone bitch about being an MCU actor. Maybe that's because they know what's good for 'em or maybe it's because it's more acceptable to do "trash" movies now.
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Jan 29, 2020 18:27
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Disney probably has a standard clause in the contract that allows them to sue/murder actors if they disparage the movies they were in.
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Jan 29, 2020 18:32
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DrAlexanderTobacco posted:Yeah that sounds about right! he wasnt happy that it was the only role most people seemed to know him for which is fair, even if a bit snooty!!
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Jan 29, 2020 18:43
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The thing I always heard was that some lady came up to him and said Star Wars were her son's favorite movies and he was like "Nooooooo"
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Jan 29, 2020 18:45
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Mooey Cow posted:Disney probably has a standard clause in the contract that allows them to sue/murder actors if they disparage the movies they were in. Mark Hamill I would think would have been picked off by Mickey Mouse by now, but I have no doubt this is true for most actors.
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Jan 29, 2020 18:50
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zoux posted:I've never heard anyone bitch about being an MCU actor. Maybe that's because they know what's good for 'em or maybe it's because it's more acceptable to do "trash" movies now. iirc robert downey jr, christian bale and a few others have said they hated it, daniel craig absolutely hated playing bond (as did connery), but yeah I'm sure there's a bunch of NDAs and non-disparagement clause tbf i have no idea why they need ~STAR POWER~ to begin with, people just want to find escapism and watch big explosions with man/woman in Full Body Vigilante Costume do a vigilantism to own da criminals, could really just be about anyone moderately attractive.
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Jan 29, 2020 20:10
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He just wasn't smart enough to know how good they were, also he's elitist
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Jan 29, 2020 20:13
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zoux posted:I've never heard anyone bitch about being an MCU actor. Maybe that's because they know what's good for 'em or maybe it's because it's more acceptable to do "trash" movies now. Idris Elba
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Jan 29, 2020 20:16
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I think he was just pissed off when he realised he was always going to be remembered as that guy from the dumb kids movie and not any of the serious acting work he did
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Jan 29, 2020 20:28
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Xaris posted:iirc robert downey jr, christian bale and a few others have said they hated it, daniel craig absolutely hated playing bond (as did connery), but yeah I'm sure there's a bunch of NDAs and non-disparagement clause I don't think RDJ hates the movie franchise that made him a household name and tip top A lister after almost being dumpstered by his rep, but if you've heard otherwise
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Jan 29, 2020 20:32
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Alec Guinness hating SW is pretty fair because it became the main topic of discussion for much of his life. My mans was in Bridge On The River Kwai and everyone wants to chat about some poo poo he did cos he thought it’d be fun. 2.25% though. Pretty sure that included merchandise.
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Jan 29, 2020 20:45
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Apparently James Earl Jones only got 7000 for a new hope and regrets not taking a percentage to this day.
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Jan 29, 2020 20:48
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I view actors who became completely famous because of one role, an absolute dream of the thousands upon thousands of failed actors throughout history, like Soft Cell refusing to play Tainted Love live.
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Jan 29, 2020 20:50
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He was a huge name before SW.
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Jan 29, 2020 20:53
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I personally always think it's kinda cool when people poo poo on the fans
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Jan 29, 2020 20:55
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like what are the fans gonna do about it
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zoux posted:I view actors who became completely famous because of one role, an absolute dream of the thousands upon thousands of failed actors throughout history, like Soft Cell refusing to play Tainted Love live. Eh, when that roll came at 63, after a long and award winning career, I can see why. Unlike Soft Cell it's not the roll that made him, even if it's the most endurent.
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Jan 29, 2020 20:55
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I don't mean specifically Alec Guiness I mean more broadly the actors-mad-about-being-Batman or whatever
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Xaris posted:tbf i have no idea why they need ~STAR POWER~ to begin with, people just want to find escapism and watch big explosions with man/woman in Full Body Vigilante Costume do a vigilantism to own da criminals, could really just be about anyone moderately attractive. Hell, isn't that how guys like Connery and Ford got big in the first place? My understanding is they got initially cast largely by looking good in the right place at the right time.
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Mooey Cow posted:Disney probably has a standard clause in the contract that allows them to sue/murder actors if they disparage the movies they were in. Somebody forgot to tell Oscar Isaacs.
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