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FlamingLiberal posted:God, the party was so bad in 2004 Only one of those is still supporting socialists.
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JBP posted:Is this why it was off on Trump? Like lack of political history, offices, own party hated him, etc? 538 said Trump would beat Clinton approximately 1 out of 3 times. I don't believe they were off last time. They gave Trump a better chance than almost anyone else. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-fivethirtyeight-gave-trump-a-better-chance-than-almost-anyone-else/
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Feb 3, 2020 00:44
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TulliusCicero posted:I somewhat agree, but I will also say that black boomers can be just as indoctrinated in the Establishment as white ones Bernie supporters really need to get away from any echo's of the last primary's "low information voter" complaints about black voters who frequently do spend time getting information even if it is not the progressive information you like.
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Feb 29, 2020 17:58
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Also he sent soldiers to Korea(?) to handle the quarantine or w/e and then flew them back on commercial flights with no screening. https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/02/27/coronavirus-fear-united-states-joint-military-exercises-south-korea-asia-trump-cdc/ Kinda the opposite happened.
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Right, but ultimately that probably introduced the virus to the West Coast. But he didn't send Soldiers to Korea to help with quarantine.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Didn’t Perot do this but for an entire hour? This seems like it fills a complete commercial slot instead of a programming slot.
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Feb 29, 2020 21:11
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You cannot be the candidate of healthcare for all when you have surrogates who blatantly and repeatedly deny foundations of modern medicine and you cannot be the candidate of the environment when you are anti-nuclear.
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Nairbo posted:Just stop. It’s been 8 pages of this poo poo
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WampaLord posted:Yup, it's 100% fine with me. Bernie is the compromise candidate, no candidate is literally perfect. Are you somehow claiming that Joe Biden is a better healthcare/environment candidate than Bernie? Yes, because Biden will build on the ACA. Sanders is siding with Marianne is against animal testing which is obviously needed for vaccine trials. I also believe nuclear power needs to be a part of fighting climate change along with more government support for renewable energy.
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Mar 3, 2020 07:54
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SgtSteel91 posted:Has there been any legislation put forward that specifically helped black people? Yes. https://history.house.gov/Exhibitions-and-Publications/BAIC/Historical-Data/Constitutional-Amendments-and-Legislation/
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Mar 3, 2020 08:15
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Nonsense posted:I think Virgil's feeling on Virginia is off. Northern Virginia is where many of these succlib accounts on twitter all live, like a poo poo load of them. https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1234693241292967942
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Rainbow Knight posted:eeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhh something about this seems off. I'm not letting my optimism go crazy, but a poll released at the end of the day that says "Oh wow looks like after SC people thought "Hey maybe Biden is a viable candidate guess I like him more than Sanders"" is a little unbelievable. I'm going to call bullshit https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1234694072918474756 Another poll heavily favoring Biden in VA
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Mar 3, 2020 08:51
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I think you all are over-estimating how well Bernie sounds when he talks and also are too terminally online to notice that the vast majority of the time Biden is very articulate, much more aware of his surroundings, and able to react to what is going on around him compared to Bernie saying the same rehearsed thing over and over again. Biden will do fine and Bernie wasn't as good as you imagined. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Mar 4, 2020 02:46
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Tatsuta Age posted:This is such a wrong post lol Except it's not. Go out and talk to people and try to watch the debates with an open mind.
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Mar 4, 2020 02:50
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Anybody who thinks that Sanders would beat Trump would be in for a very, very rude awakening when the media hands the keys over to Trump and pivots non-stop to talking about Sanders drooling all over himself at every given opportunity, the rape stories, believing cancer is caused by lack of orgasms, the only accomplishments being post offices, the one civil rights march he did decades ago, his supporters DMing rape and death threats at Warren, the anti-vax and anti-vax testing on animals, etc.
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Mar 4, 2020 03:07
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Lumpy posted:If Trump isn't president any more, they can't make a living trashing him. He's not going away even if he loses the presidency. They aren't worried about that. He'll finally be able to get sued again and it'll be like constant OJ Simpson trials.
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Unoriginal Name posted:oh yeah, Biden has strong plans on climate change? Love to hear them He's not anti-nuclear, which is better than Bernie, wants to rejoin the Paris Accord, supported money for clean energy projects, and promised to go after polluters especially in poor and minority areas.
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Based on the dates of the poll, it was before South Carolina. We don't know how many of those polled there ended up switching already to Biden or Bernie on Super Tuesday and also the polls after South Carolina. That percentage could go either way.
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Gyges posted:The only explanation that works, this side of mind control, is that voters were convinced that Biden is the best positioned to win against Donny. Nothing else makes any sense, especially since every single exit polls shows Bernie's ideas winning by huge percentages while Bernie remains the most popular politician in the country. Bernie did not come off as more charismatic than Biden to a lot of people. People also felt that Bernie blew off concerns about a transition to M4A. A public option first makes sense to a lot of people. Even people who love the ACA know that there was a rough initial transition period. Also Bernie is not the most popular politician in the country, and is only 5% ahead of Biden.
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Mar 22, 2020 03:57
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Gyges posted:Which politicians are more popular than Bernie? https://today.yougov.com/ratings/politics/popularity/politicians/all Now you can say that you were talking about current politicians but Biden is the guy who kept talking about trying to continue Obama's presidency.
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Mar 22, 2020 04:14
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Majorian posted:Evidently that can only get Biden so far. Well, he is polling better against Trump than Bernie. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_biden-6247.html https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-6250.html
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Majorian posted:That's not what we're talking about, though. You said this: Yeah and I already linked to those polls in a previous post.
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Mar 22, 2020 04:26
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Majorian posted:I'm not sure what point you think you're making, but it's not a very good one. 1. I corrected a false, baseless claim. 2. Just a couple of articles on how some of the cost claims were incorrect. Whether or not you agree with these, other people did read them and others like them. https://khn.org/news/bernie-sanders-embraces-a-new-study-that-lowers-medicare-for-alls-price-tag-but-skepticism-abounds/ https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/2/26/21153775/democratic-debate-bernie-sanders-medicare-for-all-yale-study It is speculation, but people do remember that ACA took almost 2 years to pass with a much more friendly senate and Obama got along with Democrats much better than Sanders.
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Oh Snapple! posted:People who just turned out en masse to kill their children and grandchildren so they can stop paying attention to the news are not allies lol
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Mar 22, 2020 06:48
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Majorian posted:No you didn't. You made the claim that "people saw a lot of evidence that Bernie would not be able to implement anything as president in both the two post office names meme and that Justice Democrats did very poorly in 2018," without providing any evidence yourself. Majorian posted:Nothing that you've posted here suggests that a significant amount of primary voters voted for Biden because "Bernie blew off concerns about a transition to M4A."
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Mar 22, 2020 09:49
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No he didn't since he is disingenuous about the costs. It's also unrealistic that doctors will take significant pay cuts. The bill doesn't pay for everything. https://khn.org/news/bernie-sanders-embraces-a-new-study-that-lowers-medicare-for-alls-price-tag-but-skepticism-abounds/
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Mar 22, 2020 10:33
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This has really become Trump criticizes Trump twitter where many people here are deflecting from the issue that Bernie is not doing anything in the senate to address this issue and acting like it's leadership.
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Cpt_Obvious posted:He's doing more sitting at home and raising money than he could do in the Senate.
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Mar 23, 2020 02:41
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Jesus, OK. What legislation, in the past 40 years, do you wish he had been part of? What has the Senate, as a whole accomplished in 4 decades that you could point to and say "See? Why didn't Bernie do something like this?" At minimum, ignoring the civil rights legislation is really filling the Bernie Bro stereotype.
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Joe Gillian posted:I know it didn't. Media coverage did. Source?
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Mar 23, 2020 03:36
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Doctor Jeep posted:hey bro, don't forget to answer this simple question: I thought people were trolling so I ignored that. 3rdEyeDeuteranopia fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Mar 23, 2020 |
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Mar 23, 2020 03:58
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I believe Tara despite the Russia stuff. But if you are wondering why the DNC may someone else, maybe the next best choice after a rapist isn't a rape fantasy writer who gets off on abused women. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Mar 28, 2020 02:39
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misadventurous posted:It was a slightly clunky second wave feminist essay not his loving diary!! I hate this dumbass smear It doesn't come off that way at all, it comes off as very creepy just like Biden's touching.
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Mar 28, 2020 02:56
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joepinetree posted:Imagine being such a dispshit that you equate an essay with actual unwanted touching. Imagine defending a rape fetish writer.
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Mar 28, 2020 03:02
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kidkissinger posted:Why pretend that you've even read it? I have read it. It's very clear.
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Mar 28, 2020 03:05
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joepinetree posted:As opposed to defending the rapist? I said Biden is a rapist. No one should vote for him.
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Mar 28, 2020 03:06
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Falstaff posted:There was this anonymous accusation that floated a while back.
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