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ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc
lol Petes just openly lying on twitter and noones buying it.

Just hope the people watching the news dont believe this rat bastard either.

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ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc

Goddamnit, I need to go to sleep.

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc
When Nevada rolls around, every candidate is going to be running their own app, not just pete, Bernie, and warren.

They better be, anyways.

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc

MSDOS KAPITAL posted:

no idea what FITN is but that guy sounds pissed

First in the nation, probably.

And yeah, Iowa kinda deserves to lose that status after this.

e:

lol Jesus christ, this is so dumb.

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc
To everyone confused that there's still no results today, read the thread title. Go back to bed, we'll only figure out what happened in Iowa when everyone's asleep, its like Santa Claus.

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc
Hot take, but I say Bernie's gonna win.

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc
Lol wait a sec, not sure if I'm hearing Bernie right, do SDEs actually have nothing to do with the state delegates? Thats amazing, glad the media is so dead-set on reporting only those numbers.

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc

https://twitter.com/smearedink_c/status/1225617857846874112

:discourse:

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc

Potato Salad posted:

why in the gently caress are centrists rallying around an old, hyper-rich, demonstrably-sexist, horrifyingly-racist fuckhead

... AGAIN?

Because he's paying them to.

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc
This debate sucked poo poo, but Bernies still gonna win.

Give Bernie some money or your phone number, though. He's still gonna need some help.

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc
Is it too late to get the public enemy poster? I can't find a link for that anywhere, but I saw it and I want one now because its pretty rad.

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc

Mat Cauthon posted:

http://bernie.to/-ftp was the link that worked for me earlier. Should still be good.

That worked. Thanks, mate.

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc
I dunno why I decided to read this thread tonight, all its doing is pissing me off before we have all the results. Though the way things are going, I was probably just going to be pissed off in the morning if I hadn't. Its like people voting for biden have never even seen him, how can you possibly think a demented old man slurring and forgetting his words will help you if you're not a rich rear end in a top hat?

Take care of yourselves, goons, we got a tough fight ahead of us.

The good goons can take care of yourselves, anyways. The chud patrol who came in here to poo poo on people in a bad place can eat a bag of dicks.

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc

Nairbo posted:

I guess I should be grateful for living in Canada right now but i can't help but feel really loving sad right now.

Feels almost like UKMT again honestly, except that I'm in the poo poo country this time.

The main difference right now is that the fight isn't over yet. Still have to put the effort into making a better world, even if boomers would rather kill us that see it happen.

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc

Paradoxish posted:

I'm not surprised at all. It's just always kind of fascinating to see people who don't understand why they really shouldn't be gloating in situations like this.

Hey, some people are just cunts and like to see other people suffer. See: republicans.

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc

Youth Decay posted:

Turnout is up (way up in the case of Virginia) but it's mostly going for Biden.

It seems like people are turning out in droves, but fell for bidens bullshit "electability" argument. How many reports have we had of people who wanted to vote for Bernie, but were convinced by the media that biden is the one who can win.

I was laughing at liz lads climbing onto rooftops and yelling "shes electable if you vote for her," but for fucks sake yeah, Bernie can be elected if you vote for him. But tons of people are seriously convinced that good things aren't possible.

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc

LanceHunter posted:

The world will be right where it is in 20 years. A little bit warmer and with some new coastlines, but this poo poo isn't gonna be Mad Max. It isn't going to end in pain. A significant number of your coworkers are going to lead long, happy lives and have children who will also go on to live long, happy lives. All you're doing by convincing yourself that it's pointless is delaying your own chance to plan for a future, and all that will do is make it harder to catch up to those who are planning ten years when the world has moved forward and you've stayed in place. So from your perspective things will seem a lot worse than they are to a lot of your peers, but it's more because of the choices you are making now than Bernie Sanders losing the 2020 primary.

Some new coastlines? Do you want to stop and consider how many people are right on those coastlines? They're all going to have to go somewhere, because they're not going to stay in sunken cities. And I'm not just talking about the states, other countries around the world also have lots of people on coastlines, who will need to move somewhere else once sea levels rise. And they're not always going to have space for that in their home countries, they're going to have to flee elsewhere. Likely to places that can barely handle their own displaced populous, let alone foreign refugees. You didn't actually think about this post meant at all, did you?

There's more wrong with this post, but it's really not worth the effort to point that out. Sometimes I wish I could be as self-centered and delusional as people like you, but that'd mean I would be a worthless rear end in a top hat, and that's not an acceptable choice.

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc
I guess this is one way to get a woman president, because lol at the idea of biden living for 4 straight years.
Though thats assuming joe would pick a dem as his veep, which he wont because he's going to personally dig up strom thurmonds corpse and appoint that instead.

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc

VH4Ever posted:

I think it's worth at least asking the question: is doubling down on the traditional politicking, phone banks, block walks and the like, worth doing? Or, in light of yesterday's results, do we need fresh tactics? I'm honestly asking. Is phone banking actually driving turnout? Why or why not?

Are there any other ideas? Its not like we can do what biden did and get massive support from billionaires and establishment ghouls, because those people dont exist on our side.

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc

ryde posted:

How are we still thinking “Bernie will turn out voters via enthusiasm” when that objectively did not happen on Super Tuesday.

I'm gonna say thats still true, except that it isnt Bernie making people enthusiastic, its his policies. Polls have shown that people in every super Tuesday state have at least a slightly favorable view of socialism, and poo poo like universal healthcare is extremely popular and important among the democratic base. Bernie has turned voters out... for biden. Either they somehow believe that biden will do the things Bernie champions, or they really want Bernie and what he provides, but they resigned themselves into believing that other dumber people are going to prefer the safe choice in biden, so they have to vote for him as well.

Honestly, assuming joes brain stops leaking out of his ears until November, he might maybe have a chance against trump, just because people want the good Bernie poo poo and hope joe can deliver. But thats really alot to assume, joes probably hosed.

Fights not over yet, though. It'll be really hard to turn this around for Bernie, but its not completely impossible. Like gently caress, dont just let the dnc convince you to lie down and die, force them to actually plunge the knife into your heart. There's at least a chance of fixing poo poo that way.

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc

Yeah thats about right. I was wondering about what the people knocking on doors were actually finding; like, did they convince people to vote Bernie or were they fudging their own results to make things look better? Turns out, they did convince alot of people to vote for Bernie, but then those people cowarded out and went biden. Cool.

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc

Pick posted:

If you want to, the search function on this website has been fixed quite a bit, so try "bend the knee" and you can get a good count, or the TGRS thread for short.

You know, this says way more about who you are than anything else you've said up to this point.

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc

Pick posted:

The people were openly not listening to minority posters in that thread?

Is that what happened? Tbh, you're kind of a poo poo, so I assumed you were being racist on top of that. If thats wrong, then my bad.

Actually, there was something about cspam going into there recently, but I figured that was just about the nazi mod thing.

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc

Pick posted:

People (not me) were being probated for being racist in that thread. I do have some posts in that thread, you're welcome to read through them.

Not doubting you, but yeah, link to the thread. I want to see what you're talking about.

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc

FizFashizzle posted:

I feel like it's belittling older black voters by saying it's just belief and perception.

Like I, the Bernie voter, much like all of you, can list a series of reasons I supported him and how it would directly improve my life and the lives of people around me if he's elected president.

I know we're all terminally online but how do we talk about what black voters want without dismissing them out of hand like we do boomers? Because making GBS threads on boomers is fine, whatever. They've had the world handed to them. But like older black voters in south carolina remember klan marches in columbia. they remember legal lynchings. they remember getting sent to die in vietnam. like they've seen some poo poo.

there has to be more to it for them than "well he was obama's vp."

The Clyburn endorsement probably has alot to do with it. I dont know anything about the guy, really, but he seems like a Cummings-like person; someone who old black voters have alot of respect for because he went through the same poo poo they did, and then did alot of work fighting for them.

And there's probably more to it than that, but again, I don't know the guy. Dunno what else there is there.

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc

Ethiser posted:

Am I misremembering things or didn’t Biden make the insane statement months ago that he only wanted to run for one term.

Yeah, I think that was him, but thats just him being aware he'll be dead before one term is up.

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc

TyrantWD posted:

They would go in heavily on the communism angle, praising Castro etc. and before you know it they will claim Bernie was in cahoots with Stalin or some equally crazy poo poo.

We're talking about republicans, why wouldnt they also do this for joe? Its bullshit lies, yeah, but when has that ever stopped them?

There's news footage of mitch calling joe a socialist; they dont care if their smears are true, they just scream that poo poo from the rooftops over and over and over again.

Bernie can weather that because he just goes "Yeah, and?" Joe's going to fumble and trip all over himself trying to distance himself from the spooky word, and that'll make him look weak.

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc
I think the solution to our problems is to physically drive every single prospective Bernie voter to the polls and remind them to vote for Bernie, and then hope they dont immediately change their minds while waiting in line because they got scared.

You guys want to talk about sadbrains, look at those people.

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc
I've been getting a weirdly high amount of funeral insurance emails. Spammers must be expecting a biden nomination.

kidkissinger posted:

It's a really bad look for Biden and it really illustrates how he hasn't even tried building bridges with Latinos.

That second bit is unironically true. The right hand man of the deporter in chief doesn't have alot of fans in those communities.

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc
Actually, speaking of latinx people, isn't there footage of someone asking joe about his deportation record and him responding with "I'm not going to stop deporting people"?

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc

mr whistler posted:

Jim Clyburn is the 3rd ranking democrat in the house and the most influential endorser in the first three states. I'm sure he could have found time to go to him and try to earn his vote or at least his neutrality.

I think there might be a bit of an issue here.

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc

LanceHunter posted:

“Nationalize the senior living facilities and return to the glory days of state asylums!” is not a strong pitch...

What are you talking about?

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc
I'm fine with VP warren as long as Bernie goes "lol nevermind" after he wins. Be a backstabber, get backstabbed in turn.

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc

Cup Runneth Over posted:

He's been banned several times and keeps paying $10 to come back, probably 'cause that's nothing to him. Maybe this will be what finally eats him the perma?

He already came back from a perma, somehow. Was that just because a cspam mod queued it?

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc

StratGoatCom posted:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1235945259370041344

This is basically what we have to look forward to with a biden nom the whole time. He will be obliterated.

I wonder how many people replying to this tweet realize that this attack would actually work in the general. The media loves a horse race, so they'd immediately start going after biden on this even though trump want to do the exact same thing, and has said as much.

Kunabomber posted:

Has Joe Biden done any kind of interviews since Super Tuesday? It looks like Maddow was pleading to get some airtime with him.

This reminds me of how bojo over in the UK avoided talking to the press at all costs, to the point of hiding in a freezer one time. And then won anyways. Turns out, when you're a moron, not letting people know you're a moron is a solid tactic.

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc

nivdes posted:

Now imagine this hypothetical progressive trifecta being trounced in a general election and the far-right chuds taking power and doing the same with, say, NYC's gun control laws

If your step after court-packing is enforcing the packed courts' decisions with federal troops, you might as well just skip to the civil war part now

Yeah, if we ever try to fight back against republicans, they might fight back harder, so we may as well let them do whatever they want.

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc

Guess hes mad he wasn't invited to CPAC.

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc

Rad Russian posted:

Downticket is hosed too if it's Biden. He's not medically fit to campaign or do media appearances to excite people to go to the polls. It will be a very depressed Democratic turnout even with Trump as the other choice.

If Trump hate somehow still propels Biden into office, he will be a complete wet blanket mentally in a year. The midterm elections will be catastrophic.

The main bit of solace I find here is that biden cant dissolve Bernie's grassroots organization the same way Obama got rid of his after he won. I would hope that those people and the leftists in congress would be able to help hold onto congress (by supporting other leftists), because the establishment isn't going to combat the republicans shouting about how we need to be more racist as the country goes to poo poo.

Hopefully, the movement Bernie built doesn't just collectively give up if he loses the primary, but I think its stable enough to survive that.

e:

Fojar38 posted:

His campaign building their own network in the establishment to mitigate this tactic would have been a good start. Or even the simple act of joining the Democratic Party so that it doesn't enter siege mode in response to a perceived outsider trying to hijack it like what happened to the GOP.

I highly doubt that Bernie officially being a dem would stop them from kneecapping him at every opportunity. He's a leftist, remember?

Besides, trump wasnt an independent, he ran as a republican. And their establishment saw him as an outsider anyways.

ColonelMuttonchops fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Mar 7, 2020

ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc

Main Paineframe posted:

Bernie was never the leader. He was simply the one who proved it was still possible for the left to have success, that we weren't as powerless and hated as we'd had been told.

I'd say we're still pretty drat hated, at least by those in power and their bootlickers., but I agree that the movement's not powerless.

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ColonelMuttonchops
Feb 18, 2011



Young Orc

Lester Shy posted:

Losing the popular vote doesn't seem to have any impact on the way Republicans govern or the way Democrats resist GOP governance, so this seems like the hollowest of hollow victories. If you know Biden is going to lose, you might as well vote your conscience.

Yeah, complaining about the popular vote again is just going to make the usual morons post the electoral college county view map.

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