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 It's Brexit Day, as finally a Brexit happens!  Now begins the transition period until the clock strikes midnight (CET) at the end of the year, at which point a Super Brexit rises.  Also happening this month is the Labour Leadership Election, from 21/2/2020 to 4/4/2020  .Currently running for leader are: Rebecca Long-Bailey  Generally held as leftmost by nominations, and viewed by some as the 'continuity Corbyn candidate'. Momentum supported. Has some Roman Catholic personal views. Lisa Nandy  Towns candidate for towns and other places that are larger than villages and smaller than cities. From the Labour 'soft left' but some of her associates are a bit Blue Labour. Emily Thornberry  Sacked by Ed Miliband for taking a picture of a house. First to run after Corbyn said he'd step down, generally in the Corbyn Cabinet Camp. Keir Starmer  Was the longtime favourite to win. Probable melt/Milibandist. Deputy leadership candidates: Dawn Butler Angela Rayner Rosena Allin-Khan Ian Murray Richard Burgon Alfredo Navarro Salanga - 5 February posted:Find no symbol in the capture of the reservoir: water can do no sculpting. In Other News  • The Northern Ireland Assembly reconvenes after a three year hiatus; Arlene Foster (DUP) is appointed first minister, Michelle O'Neill (SF) deputy first minister. • Legislation is drafted allowing the use of cameras during trials at Crown Courts in England and Wales, but only the judges will be filmed. • Construction starts on Dogger Bank Wind Farm, which will become the world's largest offshore wind farm when complete, generating 3.6GW. • The Prime Minister approves a "non-core" role for Huawei in 5G mobile, resisting US pressure to use equipment that steals data for the CIA rather than the MSS. • British Airways suspends all flights to and from mainland China with immediate effect, due to the ongoing coronavirus threat. • Harry and Meghan drop their titles and move to Canada. • 333 days until Super Brexit. • Planet's dyin' Cloud. There is always in February some one day, at least, when one smells the yet distant, but surely coming, summer.  Xmas in February UKMT January 2020 - Jess Flops UKMT General Elexmas 2019 - casually eating surstromming UKMT November 2019 - Andrew Can't Denounce Epstein Properly UKMT October 2019 - Johnson Forced to Extend [Everything About It] UKMT September 2019 - A Pro-Roguelike Set In A Dystopian Failed State/A Fish-Abandoning Government UKMT August 2019 - we (UK) should simply invade Ireland peacefully UKMT July 2019 - A more cheerful Brexit/BBC for slutty communists All Previous Threads (thanks Pesky Splinter) February - Whateva da Weatha Europol Thread Scotpol Thread Trainchat Thread Political Cartoons Thread C-SPAM: BREXIT BYOB: UKMT February Air Podcasting is Praxis - The official podcast of the UKMT with UKMT goons talking into microphones about things. Off the Fence - Brighton based, covering UK & Global topics. Pretty chill and professional peeps. Older 'casts can be found in the PLATFORM B archive. Reel Politik - The Original Leftie Hate Trolls. Check 'em out. We Don't Talk About The Weather - Two cool guys discuss news and other stuff. The second-most UKMT-iest of Podcasts. Desolation Radio - Socialism from a Welsh perspective. Informative hosts. Revolutionary Despatches - Two new guys starting out. Connected & Disaffected - Breezy discussions of lefty social, and historical topics, and news updates. Pretty Good. Trashfuture - Theme of the week style podcast about capitalism and how much it fucks up. Cool podcasters, sometimes working with Reel Politik Agitpod - Owen Jones & Ellie Mae O’Hagan discuss news. Reasons to Be Cheerful - Former Labour leader Ed "Red Ed" Milliband and Geoff Lloyd shoot the poo poo, and discuss general politics. Sometimes with guests. Novara Media - Numerous fluctucating commentators including Matt Zarb-Cousin, Max Shanly, and James Butler among others. Varying topics with guests. [Citations Needed] - Covers the US, focussing on the media, PR, and assorted bullshit. Also some socialist history topics. Very informative. Chapo House Media - More US focused, from a leftist perspective. Basically a US version of Reel Politik, but with better mics. Worth a listen. General Intellect Unit - Podcast of the Cybernetic Marxists. Examining the intersection of Technology, (Left) Politics, and Philosophy; decently in-depth and theory-driven as podcasts go. Alpha 2 Omega - Tom O'Brien talks political strategy. Requires Improvement - Podcast of lefty teachers exploring all things education, from a socialist perspective. Swampside Chats - "The highest communist podcast" February Tale Stop, Thief!: The Commons, Enclosures, And Resistance – Peter Linebaugh Demanding The Impossible - David Morland Demanding the Impossible: A History of Anarchism - Peter Marshall Chav Solidarity - D. Hunter No Shortcuts: Organizing for Power in the New Gilded Age - Jane McAlevey Libertarian Communism – Isaac Puente Amestoy At The Café – Malatesta The Method of Freedom – Malatesta In Praise of Idleness – Russell Political Ideals – Russell Declaration – Hardt and Negri Liberalism, a Counter History – Domenico Losurdo God and the State – Bakunin The Conquest of Bread – Kropotkin Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism – V I Lenin Anarchism and Other Essays – Emma Goldman Social Reform or Revolution – Rosa Luxemburg Violence – Slavoj Zizek Jihad vs. McWorld - Benjamin Barber Crashed: How a Decade of Financial Crises Changed the World – Adam Tooze Flat Earth News - Nick Davies Hack Attack - Nick Davies Ecology of Freedom – Murray Bookchin Anarchism, Marxism and the Future of the Left – Murray Bookchin Let's Read Das Kapital – Karl Marx and Goons UKMT CLP Commissars (thanks feedmegin) quote:I came up with the idea of a register of goons and their CLPs in case any new joiners wanted someone to go to to get the local lie of the land. The Effortpost's Graveyard (thanks goddamnedtwisto and UKMT goons) Join us on synIRC for Question Time Awfulness and Stuff #ukgoons on synIRC (thanks crispix). Or on Discord for other UKMT Chat and Podcast Conspiring https://discord.gg/QErneZT  Do Not Post In This Thread:
learnincurve posted:Need something added to every OP. DWP have been told not to tell sanctioned people about this. 
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nurmie posted:In general, the public seemed to consist of either people under 21 or over 50.
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Feb 1, 2020 10:38
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Darth Walrus posted:The EU is going to be the enemy, though, simply because the default state of international trade is ludicrously vicious, and they're a massive, institutionally capitalist economic superpower right next door who we just torpedoed our relationship with. They're going to treat us like they treat African economies.
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Feb 1, 2020 10:47
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As long as we go back to drawing him as Palestinian rather than an Euro.
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Feb 1, 2020 11:28
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Pistol_Pete posted:If you want to play Centrist Remainer Brexit bingo, THIS is the article for you!  ThomasPaine posted:Also on the way back from the loo some steaming guy yelled 'gently caress the pope' at me which was quite nostalgic for living in Glasgow but I don't have a single clue why or even why that would he a thing you'd say in London? I couldn't tell if I was meant to be insulted or meant to be like 'hell yeah gently caress the pope' or what so ?????
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Feb 1, 2020 11:52
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Regarde Aduck posted:That’s a bit optimistic. Unfortunately I think it’s more likely, at this point, that we capitulate to everything the US demands as a gently caress you to the EU. 
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Feb 1, 2020 12:47
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Oh poo poo, it's the perfect storm for English moral panic fans, halal meth, coming to your schools soon.
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Feb 1, 2020 13:52
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Britain should have swapped it for some of the Canaries that are full of UK tourists and businesses anyway. Or gone the full circle route of Gibraltar from UK to Spain, Ceuta and Melilla to Morocco, Western Sahara to SADR and Canarios, Canaries to UK.
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Feb 1, 2020 14:34
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ronya posted:They were abandoned by the historical force of changes in the means of production; actually-existing command economies could not make labour-intensive heavy-industry towns sustainable and neither could the entire developed West in the decade before it turned to neoliberalism. goddamnedtwisto posted:I mean the manifesto of "gently caress everyone not living within 3 miles of a gin bar" would probably have some ramifications elsewhere in the country but gently caress them, at least we'll have seen off that Lib Dem threat. 
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Feb 1, 2020 14:42
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goddamnedtwisto posted:horny-handed Omega goddamnedtwisto posted:* Of course in a way there is - the GLC, in it's last big fight, keeping London Buses safe from most of the worst effects of deregulation is one of the things that prevented the London suburbs imploding in the same way many of the exurbs did. TfL - the direct descendant of that - is one of the big reasons why London can support any kind of economic activity at all, and even Johnson recognised that, accelerating the nationalisation and in-sourcing of the suburban rail lines (to create the Overground) and tube maintenance respectively that Livingstone started the moment he got back in to control of London's transport.
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Feb 1, 2020 14:53
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They cut the end off. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EQCpQbUrzI
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Feb 1, 2020 17:09
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They didn't even folks it into a triangle thirteen times which is a very real UK thing I am mad about.
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Feb 1, 2020 17:22
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Morocco agrees.
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Feb 1, 2020 18:15
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Who decides what's an imperialist relic? Ceuta and Melilla fit the standard of imperialist relics, being agreed between France and Spain as part of an imperialist war in Morocco over which Moroccans had little say, far more than Gibraltar, being a product of a treaty between two European colonialist powers.
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Feb 1, 2020 18:50
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feedmegin posted:Are you proposing kicking all the Normans out and reestablishing the Heptarchy? And then kicking all of them out and giving all of England back to the Welsh? gently caress the beaker people though.
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Feb 1, 2020 18:59
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Yes? You can both be a perpetrator and a victim of imperialism, that's probably the norm for most states older than a century. There can't be any discussion about the status of Gibraltar until Ceuta and Melilla are returned. Hell, offer Morocco Jabal Tariq too.
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Feb 1, 2020 19:11
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feedmegin posted:Also yeah I'm gonna need some cites on the whole 'Gibraltan genocide'. So if anyone deserves Gibraltar back, it's the Palestinians. 
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Feb 1, 2020 19:18
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That's getting a bit close to "how can someone called Sadiq Khan be the mayor of London" and "why isn't he called Murphy like the rest of them".
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Feb 1, 2020 19:24
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Not surprising to see the UK left resist attempts to reckon with the UK's imperialist past. At its core, it is no more able to confront the myths of Britain's imperial past than the Tories, even if it doesn't go so far as to celebrate it, preferring instead to champion anti-imperialism in the abstract, or to focus on flashier subjects.
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Feb 1, 2020 19:52
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A Buttery Pastry posted:It's a matter of degree, not kind. It's not exactly the only time UK posters have betrayed thinking on the EU and foreigners in general to be much more in line with the Tories than they'd want to admit. Probably not out of any ill will (unlike the Tories), but because you can't grow up in a society drowning in imperialist apologia without integrating it into your world view. If we're talking in terms of conquest and empire rather than European royal slapfights, Morocco has far more of a claim to the rock than Spain does.
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Feb 1, 2020 19:59
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Morocco (or its predecessor) took it in its own act of imperialism.
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Feb 1, 2020 20:21
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Feb 1, 2020 21:10
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++ EU WANTS TO RENAME YOUR OVEN TO LAS AGA ++
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Feb 1, 2020 21:14
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Corbyn has been meddling in the politics of other sovereign states again. https://twitter.com/PositiveRomania/status/1223697927136256002
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Feb 1, 2020 21:33
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King William of Eilish.
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Feb 1, 2020 22:01
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Ms Adequate posted:Christopher Cross (not Chris Cross or Kris Kross).
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Feb 1, 2020 22:16
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Is there not enough Victorian oil on canvas of shepherdesses for him?
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Feb 1, 2020 23:28
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You can tell that Brexit is mostly a psychological thing rather than a political thing, because all the Leavers call the Remainers traitors and all the Remainers call the Leavers racists. If it was based on actual politics the Leavers would be calling the Remainers racists for voting to stay in a eurocentric white supremacist gang, and the Remainers would be calling the Leavers traitors for knackering the country.
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Feb 2, 2020 10:26
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Sure but if this was being done as an actual serious political project rather than tribalism and Tory grandstanding then the only good reasons to leave were the Bennite ones. There was no argument nor possibility of that though, because there was no left faction even really involved, it was right wing liberals vs. right wing nationalists.
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Feb 2, 2020 11:03
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marktheando posted:Brexiteers didn't want to leave because of the bad things about the EU, they wanted to leave because of the good things about the EU. The important question is where this leaves the left going forward, because neither liberalism nor nationalism are desirable left wing projects.
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Feb 2, 2020 11:32
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Pleasantly surprised to see nobody pulling the "but what about the harm communism did" poo poo in the replies.
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Feb 2, 2020 13:02
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Cerv posted:did the crossword setter have access to the same big red ‘stop brexit’ button that Corbyn refused to push?
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Feb 2, 2020 14:49
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Aidan_702 posted:I’m extremely peeved the guardian wrote this - the Irish were successfully keeping the knowledge of this abominable family from the rest of the world happyhippy posted:Problem with Bond is that Austin Powers ruined it. Like with Airplane and the airport disaster movie, or Blazing Saddles and the formulaic black hat white hat western, or Scary Movie and teen slashers it was necessary for the time. e: goddamnedtwisto posted:Where's the missile-armed autogyro I wouldn't worry though, it'll only fly after they've finished restoring the Norton. Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Feb 2, 2020 |
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Feb 2, 2020 17:47
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Gorn Myson posted:I love it when this happens. Its the same with Walk Hard being so good at mocking its source material that its impossible to take similar movies seriously.
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Feb 2, 2020 18:25
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There is so much peace to be found in people's faces, so we will be establishing a database.
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Feb 2, 2020 22:21
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Looking forward to the perfectly spherical brain association saying that the ones that will reoffend shouldn't be released from prison.
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Feb 3, 2020 10:10
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Debating RLB Nandy Thornberry just to give the best spread for stopping the symbolic win for the Blairists of Starmer, but unsure if Nandy would just do most of the same poo poo while shouting about towns.
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Feb 3, 2020 10:45
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OwlFancier posted:I mean at this point being a rabid brexiteer might be a plus given that the remain lot have totally hosed up. I'm not sure about the depth of her Blue Labour links. They've recommended her a couple of times, which is a worry, but it could mean anything from "she's a post-liberal who isn't Corbyn" to "she's a fash sympathizer". That all hinges on whether her appeal to small towns bit really means "we should be bringing utilities and community and municipalism back to small towns, and undo the metropolitan centralism of the past decades" or "cricket and racism". goddamnedtwisto posted:Nandy's making the right noises in the hustings but is still the furthest-right of the contenders. Starmer is such a loving cypher though, he's literally not committed to anything at all at any point in the process and the fact that he's even vaguely close to the lead is Tall White Male privilege in action because those are the only three things that you can say are definitely the case about him. crispix posted:I do wonder what Starmer has seen to cause him to have the exact same look of dead-eyed horror on his face no matter where he is or what he's saying. "The voters! The voters!"
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Feb 3, 2020 11:15
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Cerv posted:Someone please take a tape measure to the next hustings.
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Darth Walrus posted:She was literally the co-chair of Smith's campaign, and it's difficult to trust a candidate who gets articles like this about their candidacy. quote:“Blue Labour”, as he termed it, urged the party to reconnect with its traditional supporters by embracing the values of “flag, faith and family”.
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