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This is a big day for people who currently feel like they're watching the run-up to world war 3. Big days are not necessarily good.
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Aphex- posted:The gammons are just going to keep blaming the EU for all their problems even though we're not in it anymore aren't they? I give it less than a year before we start seeing stories about the EU shipping refugees to Britain that THEY SHOULD BE TAKING (again).
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Feb 1, 2020 14:55
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Jedit posted:The Guardian cryptic crossword, 31/1/20: This is the third time today I've seen or heard about this and it is just peak loving grauniad. Performative anger about brexit whilst doing nothing whatsoever to help prevent it.
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Cerv posted:did the crossword setter have access to the same big red ‘stop brexit’ button that Corbyn refused to push? The Graun, being a media organisation, definitely had significant influence over the election and the coverage of Corbyn for the last few years, so yeah, kind of. I don't know if the result would have changed if they hadn't been loving about, nobody can, but it might have. The crossword setter specifically, probably not. thespaceinvader fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Feb 2, 2020 |
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Feb 2, 2020 18:51
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The Question IRL posted:So it looks like N.10 wants to copy the White House's playbook move of telling journalists "report the news exactly how we want or we will revoke access." Like they're not already.
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Feb 3, 2020 16:34
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Honestly I would bet on it being a combination of lack of social support and a toxic culture, in particular around being seen as brainy, or being seen as trying too hard being unacceptable to white male teens and young adults.
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Feb 3, 2020 16:55
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OwlFancier posted:I vote for killing and eating the rich thereby eliminating the need to perform massive amounts of pointless labour just to exist. I must have missed that in the manifestos. marktheando posted:Has anyone in the government even mentioned the report into Russian interference since the election? Lol of course not, and the media are largely ignoring it too.
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Feb 3, 2020 17:03
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OwlFancier posted:The first tweet is confusing, is that more TERF poo poo? Chuka Umana posted:I think Keir dodged her question and said we needed to conduct "the debate" on trans rights respectfully. It's this, I think. It reads as a mix of 'gently caress no I'm not touching this with a ten-foot pole it's TERF poo poo but I can't say so' and 'I'm taking this as read which is 'my child is trans and I'm concerned for his safety and health'', which is definitely a human rights issue and so forth. It's possible he's missed the undercurrent of the question and just taken the face value one, but I'd be willing to bet he knows exactly what's being asked and is ducking furiously. E: It's TERF poo poo, but it's not obviously TERF poo poo unless you know your TERF poo poo. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapid_onset_gender_dysphoria_controversy (I think? Other people are definitely more qualified to comment)
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Feb 3, 2020 18:06
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OwlFancier posted:Nice of johnson to put the tv license up instead of scrapping it, a shame about the british public's capacity for basic reasoning. This is exactly what I thought would happen. He's going to sell off the BBC and keep the TV license because what fascist doesn't want to control what the people are able to watch?
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Feb 3, 2020 18:24
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Coohoolin posted:this reads EXACTLY like a euphemistic way of being mad at "trenders" The question, starer's answer, my post, which this are you referring to?
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Feb 3, 2020 18:40
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Coohoolin posted:the wikipedia article. it's people trying to say "these are just silly teenagers being trans as a fad" in like a serious sciencey way to give it gravitas Yes, this is what ROGD is as a concept AFAICT. That and reactions to younger kids, i.e. pre-teens and so forth, expressing changing gender presentations from those assigned at birth. OwlFancier posted:I wonder if anyone's come up with a unified theory of dickheads that explains terfs, homophobes, tories, etc, as all manifestations of the same fuckup that makes people just assume their instinctive reaction is correct (and also have poo poo instinctive reactions) All humans have poo poo instinctive reactions. It's almost like the part of our brain in which instinct dwells hasn't really been updated to cope with social concepts as opposed to the avoidance of being eaten by tigers.
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Feb 3, 2020 18:55
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Guavanaut posted:The Red Butterfly had probably the most useful take on it for the time, everyone's probably naturally pan or something but we live in a society, and straight society, by creating the thesis "you're either 100% straight or you're disgusting", forced the antithesis "no gently caress you I'm 100% gay and that's who I am", which in turn eventually leads to the synthesis of "hey maybe love is love and demanding to know exactly why people are gay is counterproductive". This is pretty much my take on sexuality. Climbing out of the pit of sexuality-related hang-ups is not fun. I suspect something similar to be true of sex and gender (i.e. the state of one's body in relation to sex, absent any medical intervention, is normally a bimodal distribution centred around the two peaks we normally call male and female, but any one individual might be squarely in one of those peaks, somewhere in the middle, or an outlier at one edge. Most people's internal understanding of themself broadly matches their external state absent medical intervention, but for those for whom it doesn't, medical intervention might be necessary, or they might be able to make the changes they need to with purely physical or social methods. The social construction of gender and gender identity is... complicated.)
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Feb 3, 2020 19:48
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ThomasPaine posted:Johnson has to own it come what may. He... very much doesn't, though. He will just keep shifting the blame back to the EU, or immigrants, or the poor, no matter what the actual reasons for the problems are, and people will believe him, becase they have little reason not to, just like plenty of people believe Trump is not a crime guy, Prince Andrew isn't a nonce, and Boris isn't a lying loving toe-rag. He only has to own it if the establishment forces him to, and it won't.
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Feb 4, 2020 19:00
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TBF they were luckier than they would have been under the current shitfire.
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Feb 4, 2020 23:50
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Gah this makes me twitch every time. It's only a Union JACK if it's flying on a loving ship. It's a Union FLAG if it's flying on a building. (Councils should fly them upside down to indicate distress, not that people who aren't nerds would notice) E: 22 years ago, speaking of the Royals, Mohamed Al-Fayed was quoted as saying he was 99.9% certain that Diana's and Dodi's deaths were a conspiracy. Somewhat like the conspiracy in which Prince Andrew was ALLEGEDLY involved.
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Feb 6, 2020 16:18
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Ms Adequate posted:When I was a kid I was like "35?! That's so unfair! That's so OLD!" and now I'm turning 35 in a few months and I'm like "Christ alive there's no way someone my age should be put in charge of anything." Have you considered that in fact the concept of people being in charge is what is in fact bad?
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Feb 7, 2020 00:03
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Jameela Jamil is pretty solidly Correct on most social issues, but as ever, she's rich, so she's imperfect and prone to a lens of privilege. I didn't know she'd come out, but it's not even slightly surprising. That is a terrible analogy though.
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Feb 7, 2020 13:12
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Miftan posted:She's come out because she got poo poo for being appointed judging some.. Dance?? Contest TV show. The type dance is a gay culture thing from what I gather? I dunno I haven't followed it closely. I read the article, and it does seem like something a little... post facto justificatory... but still not really surprising. I don't think there's ever going to be a case where coming out in response to something except maybe like... pride month, or one of the awareness days, or whatever... will seem like anything but a post-facto justification. It sucks that it seems that way though; the fact that queer peoples' narratives are always 'assumed to be straight until explicitly stated otherwise, and sometimes even then' in these situations is kind of a problem. Borrovan posted:fwiw the shinigami eyes chrome extension* flags her as a good-opinion-haver, and it tends to be pretty trigger-happy. She is very, very definitely not a terf. She's said trans rights like, a lot.
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Feb 7, 2020 13:23
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sebzilla posted:False! If you own a house in which people can live, you own a home, and are a homeowner. It's impossible to be a landlord without owning a home, at least in part.
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Feb 7, 2020 14:52
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If you have a preference for one over the other, express it, even if you'd prefer neither of them get in at all. Not voting doesn't allow you to express that if it's a choice between those two, you'd prefer Starmer over Nandy, voting does.
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Feb 7, 2020 15:37
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bessantj posted:What the gently caress are the BBC up to? Giving air to people who say they suffer from "Electrosensitivity". By the looks of the last line, fomenting unnecessary fears about 5G.
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Feb 7, 2020 17:52
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The storm has hosed up my town to the point where we selected Starmer/Rayner RIP us. I have a job interview with Crisis on Wednesday, wish me the best.
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Feb 9, 2020 23:10
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I'd be relatively surprised if it does, and very disappointed. I don't know if I'd even stay in at that point. I joined because we might do a socialism, I don't trust Starmer to do that.
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Feb 9, 2020 23:14
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Saith posted:Oh man, I guess Pratchett was wrong, and Pestilence is making a comeback. Yup *dies of starvation after exhausting Brexit stash a couple of weeks in*. Wait, I think there was a flaw in this plan. I've gotta say I'm a LIIITTLE concerned, but I'm not as concerned as the news is making out, and mostly for my wife rather than myself, who whilst not immunocompromised is definitely more vulnerable to chest infections than most people.
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Feb 10, 2020 17:19
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I thought that while it was more immediately contagious, it didn't seem to hang around on surfaces and skin the same way? This is how democracy dies, with thunderous baton beatings for brown people when they have a cold.
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Feb 10, 2020 18:02
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turns out making a boat so you can drive onto and off it means it's also got gaping loving holes in both ends.
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Feb 10, 2020 20:21
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floofyscorp posted:My CLP(Portsmouth South) nominated Starmer and Rayner Hey I didn't go to mine either and mine did the same - the numbers were pretty small, I'd be pretty surprised if turnout has been huge for any of these; most people I think already know that a candidate they prefer is on the ballot, so it will mostly be the die-hards who've shown up.
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Feb 10, 2020 23:08
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I was too lazy and depressed to attend and now I feel like this is all my fault.
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Saith posted:People ITT: Stop saying mean things about England that's racist you racist Apparently "funny" names being "funny" are immune from racism.
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Feb 11, 2020 14:11
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jackhunter64 posted:Wales has a train that goes up a mountain and the rest of the UK doesn't. 🏴 1 - 0 🇬🇧 Um https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Funicular_railways_in_the_United_Kingdom
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Feb 11, 2020 14:14
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Saith posted:You guys should legit start using the word Cymry instead of Welsh tho when referring to a Welsh person Not Cymraeg?
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Feb 11, 2020 14:23
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jackhunter64 posted:Those are lifts at an angle. But all trains are just horizontal lifts anyway.
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Feb 11, 2020 14:24
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Saith posted:Cymraeg is the language - the -eg denotes language rather than person Thanks =) Genuinely didn't know what, despite how much time I've spent there over the years.
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Borrovan posted:Also he did a thing on Mumsnet or something & suddenly had legions of adoring TERF fans telling him how wonderful he was (whilst everyone else rightly called him a oval office) & he lapped that poo poo right up & decided to become the saviour of womankind *(offer not applicable to certain subcategories of woman) I don't really feel like he's deserving of any kind of F at all to be honest.
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Feb 11, 2020 23:11
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Trin Tragula posted:OK, difficult question time. One of the things Ashcroft's focus groups got out of former Labour voters who switched for 2019 was this sort of thing: If they're there at all, they will be key parts of the discussion, regardless of whether they're on page 25 in size 2 font, or page 1 in size 50. The media is what sets the narrative, and if leftist/progressive policy is there to see at all, and it must be to keep the membership engaged, it will be the forefront of the discussion precisely because it annoys these people. There is no route to an electoral victory that doesn't involve some way around that fact. It's also probably worth noting that there are direct, explicit contradictions between people in those select few quotes alone - it's literally impossible to please all of them. Hell, Israel/Palestine will be part of the discussion even if it's NOT in the manifesto, simply because it's been so effective as a stick to beaat Labour with previously. We have to be able to answer it to make progress, because it's never not going to be asked again. What that answer is, I haven't a fuuuuucking clue. But then, I'm still pretty unconvinced that there's a route to long-term improvement in electoralism at all.
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Feb 12, 2020 17:44
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Least poo poo, and most likely to make long-term improvements to party democracy to make the party more member-led and thus less poo poo in future.
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Feb 12, 2020 19:53
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WhatEvil posted:We were just talking about job applications the other day: I've been either very lucky or very sensible to avoid applying for major national chains, or both. Little local charities have been mostly pretty decent at avoiding this kind of bullshit. I had an interview today, I have another next week, wish me luck frens
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Feb 12, 2020 21:56
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OwlFancier posted:Even if you just throw them at empty buildings you're probably still more likely to get a job out of it. Does it matter if the spin is credible? Do you really think the credibility of spin is remotely important in the world where DFCFADP? E: 58 years ago on February 12 1962– Six members of the Committee of 100 of the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament in the U.K. are found guilty of a breach of the Official Secrets Act. Also, JFC watching Good Omens then Home is some emotional loving whiplash. thespaceinvader fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Feb 12, 2020 |
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OwlFancier posted:I mean yes I think it does matter if spin is telling people something directly and transparently opposite to their perception of reality. Which is why they won't acknowledge that the stupid internet forms are stupid, they will preach about government interference with businesses' hiring practices, and wealthy fuckstains who haven't had to apply for a new job in 20+ years without it just being a 'between pals just pass me your CV and I'll make sure you get the promotion' type deal will dutifully grumble about how Labour are going to institute enforced positive discrimination, make every business hire quotas of queer and trans people, etc etc etc. How can you believe that it remotely matters if spin is factual when Donald loving Trump is loving President of the UFSFA and Boris loving Johnson is Prime loving Minister of the loving United loving Kingdom of Great loving Britain and Northern loving Ireland?!
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Guavanaut posted:How did Trump get to become President of Faculty Admin as a university in South Africa? Money, dear goon.
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OwlFancier posted:Because the alternative is just "lol nothing matters" and that doesn't make for worthwhile posting. If there's a response to this that is remotel helpful, I'm not sure what it is. It's honestly getting harder and harder to avoid doomsaying at the moment, even with talking to a therapist every loving week.
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