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WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

https://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1223365976797995008?s=20

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WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

This is the best Bond theme:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8hAMhLoQUc

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

ThomasPaine posted:

Should I vote for butler or burgon or rayner for deputy, I genuinely don't know.

I'm going RLB for leader.

Butler then Burgon then Rayner IMO.

I'm debating whether to actually put Rayner on there. Not that keen on her.

WhatEvil fucked around with this message at 02:54 on Feb 3, 2020

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

ThomasPaine posted:

Genuine question, why don't you like rayner? She seems alright? Have I missed something?

Can't find it now but she's been pretty sneery and lovely towards Butler for one thing.

She also #MeToo'd a post on twitter about racism in the House of Commons which was dodgy.

Also this:

https://twitter.com/nehashah_/status/1219285616711602176?s=20

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

baka kaba posted:

the big one is she was asked which Democrat candidate she supports, and after being unsure for a minute she goes "I don't know, Biden maybe??"
like, how? gonna assume she's not been following it too closely

https://twitter.com/DawnButlerBrent/status/1222300931016077312?s=20

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Starmer really is a poo poo.

https://twitter.com/lisa_trandy/status/1224349548757291010?s=20

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

RLB is currently live on Novara.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s8eJDaOgV0

E:

She just said that Burgon's politics are closer to hers than Rayner's are.

WhatEvil fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Feb 4, 2020

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

RLB said trans rights. Self-ID should be law, no debate.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

And everybody who votes for war has to sign up.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Laura Pidcock is cancelled.

https://twitter.com/ofthesparrows/status/1225517310284308485

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

BTW just in case anybody wants it, I've found the timestamp where RLB talks about trans rights in the Novara interview:

https://twitter.com/WhatEvil/status/1225831257659056128?s=20

Linking my own tweets, because I've done a small thread of some timestamps from that interview which are some of her lesser-known views.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Sigh.

https://twitter.com/JonnElledge/status/1225840132005253126?s=20

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

https://twitter.com/IainDale/status/105427604978417664?s=20

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Ratjaculation posted:

So what is Schofield? A wolf? a skunk (silver hunk)?

A Tory dickhead.

In other news, David Aaranovitch got caught by a "sophisticated scam".

https://twitter.com/centristwonk/status/1225880546850615296?s=20

Far be it from me to call him credulous.

E: lol

https://twitter.com/JohnJCrace/status/1225880795774148609?s=20

WhatEvil fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Feb 7, 2020

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Just an aside, if I look at my local CLP facebook page, most of the most vocal ones on there are blairites. It puts people like me off posting there, however whenever there *are* posts/comments from Corbyn supporters, they get *loads* of likes on there.

So I think all these poo poo noms could be a symptom of the same thing?

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

https://twitter.com/ForTheMany2020/status/1226247118005907456?s=20

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Guavanaut posted:

Starmer definite 4th for me now. Maybe 5th if they'll let me write in Jess Phillips.

Can't you just not write him in?

I mean tbh it's either gonna be Starmer or RLB. Just write RLB first pref and leave the rest blank.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Guavanaut posted:

Asparagus as part of a meal for two is easy to get right.

  1. Lay out four attached squares of kitchen roll.
  2. Place the asparagus along it, with each asparagu straight up on the short edge of the paper.
  3. Roll it up like a scroll. By which I mean roll it up from left to right, you don't have to put it on a special mat or chant or anything.
  4. Wet the whole thing. Not soaking, but get all the kitchen roll damp, then squeeze it out a bit, then leave it for 5 minutes.
  5. Place your vegetable scroll between two dinner plates like a clamshell.
  6. Microwave for 3 minutes.

You now have perfect soft steamed asparagus and two hot plates ready to serve the rest of the meal onto. Salt and butter to taste. The asparagus, not the plates.

There's a much easier and tastier way:

Heat up pan, on medium-high heat, til quite hot.
Throw asparagus in, with a bit of salt.
Sauté for about 3 mins til it gets a bit of a char on it.
Done.

You can add a little oil if you want while cooking, or a little butter after, plus whatever herbs you like.

E: And you should sauté cabbage too. None of this boiling crap.

EE: And brocolli and kale. Sauté all the green things. Boiling sucks.

WhatEvil fucked around with this message at 01:28 on Feb 10, 2020

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Ms Adequate posted:

Can't think of a way of preparing broccoli I dislike tbf.

That's fair. Broccoli is good. Lots of people over-boil it tho.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

This loving sucks from RLB.

https://twitter.com/jonwalker121/status/941451259550322689?s=20

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Convinced the bridge, along with the garden bridge, were/are projects simply designed to funnel public money to "consultants".

It's a great idea tbf. Pay a load of money out for feasibility studies, engineering consultancy, etc. etc. and then say "actually nah we're not doing it". Don't have to have anything to show for it, and you've successfully siphoned off millions of pounds.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Burgon live on Novara momentarily.

https://twitter.com/novaramedia/status/1226957934363660291?s=20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr6YD63GuRE

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Burgon: "A lot of MPs turn up pissed to vote on whether to bomb another country".

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Burgon: "Lots of the gains (in Labour policy re: socialism and opposing right wing influence of papers etc.) made under Jeremy Corbyn were down to the members having more of a say".

He's big on increasing democratisation of the party.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

WhatEvil posted:

Burgon: "Lots of the gains (in Labour policy re: socialism and opposing right wing influence of papers etc.) made under Jeremy Corbyn were down to the members having more of a say".

He's big on increasing democratisation of the party.

Lol he's basically, repeatedly said "MPs don't know poo poo" and that's why we need things to be more democratic for the members. He's a good lad.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Lol Burgon said he was sad to lose Mike Gapes because of the comedy value, for his miwk memes etc.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Burgon also said Woodcock had a rotten political outlook, and good riddance to him

Will stop now as interview is done. He came across well.

Main thrust of what he was saying: He's for anti-war internationalism, he thinks the party should be more democratic, he is for open selection.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

In case anybody missed it.

https://twitter.com/WhatTheTrans/status/1227021563712675840?s=20

In other news I have waded into the trans debate on twitter again.

Have blocked about another 50 fuckheads tonight. They really are properly unhinged.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

.

WhatEvil fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Feb 11, 2020

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Answers Me posted:

Apologies if this has been discussed at length, but what the gently caress is the deal with Graham Linehan? I've seen it referenced a lot, but I've just been looking at how all in he's gotten with the Transphobia. It's literally all he talks about, and seems to spend every waking minute on Twitter. He's clearly totally addicted. Extremely damaged guy

You've summed it up pretty well tbh. Just an extremely damaged, totally addicted, very deranged man.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

There's a hashtag trending on twitter right now: #ExpelMe:

https://twitter.com/claireOT/status/1227335221894402049?s=20

Thousands of transphobes (probably only a small proportion of them actually Labour members) tweeting about it. I say do it. Expel any who can be identified.

Also a good time to remind people about the TERFblocker blocklist.

https://twitter.com/TerfBlocker

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

https://twitter.com/RLong_Bailey/status/1227618677358505984?s=20

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Alchenar posted:

No, genuinely.

Look if you dont want to compromise on policy then the takeaway from the election is that voters liked the individual policy pledges but thought that taken together they weren't a credible plan for government. So you dont have to change policy, but you can just cut things until you have something that you think is sellable. Trains and tuition fees are easy because the impact of those pledges was actually pretty regressive.

Citation needed.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

peanut- posted:

Question as I've not been following things too closely. Every time I see an article about Starmer recently he seems to be openly committing to Corbyn-inherited left-wing policies, but every time I click on this thread it seems like people are calling him a centrist Blairite. Not being disingenuous with this, is there strong reason to believe he's a lying fucker?

Look at who's supporting him, and who he's got working on his team. He's going big on "party unity" and the "broad church" thing which has always just been an excuse to shift the party rightward whilst forcing the left to "compromise".

https://jacobinmag.com/2020/02/keir-starmer-labour-party-uk-leadership

quote:

The most right-wing rump of the PLP would be encouraged by a Starmer win. It would suspect, fairly or not, that Starmer is less committed to the left-wing policies which some rightist Labour MPs wasted no time in attacking as the election results were pouring in last month. By recruiting former Corbyn advisers including Simon Fletcher and Kat Fletcher, Starmer is doubtless aiming to reassure the Left about his intentions. Less reassuring, however, is the appointment of Matt Pound — former national organizer for the right-wing Labour First — to Starmer’s campaign team, a move hardly likely to dissuade the PLP right that he could be dragged further in its direction once installed as leader.

quote:

In appointing Pound, a self-proclaimed “full-time” organizer against the “hard left,” Starmer was (presumably deliberately) sending out a message to the Labour right that its concerns would be heeded and its interests tended to if he became party leader.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Jippa posted:

Can someone try this for me and report back.


https://twitter.com/marmite/status/1227191402007793664

I mean, you can get the exact same effect by spreading a layer of peanut butter over a layer of marmite. In that sense I've already tried it. It's good. Peanut butter goes with everything.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

It's catch 22 - if you can't reach the higher paying jobs in cities by public transport to save deposits and so forth, you can't afford to move to said cities to get the better paid jobs in the better infrastructure.

This is why we need the Lib Dem policy of loans for rental deposits! :parrot:

Anyway, going back to the person asking about "why is Keir Starmer seen as centrist/on the Labour right when he's been publicly committing to left wing policies":

https://twitter.com/Simon_Vessey/status/1227648495064096769?s=20

It's the usual Liberal mealy-mouthed poo poo of saying "Yes we should make left-wing changes!*"

Where the asterisk is always:

*lol but not really.

"We must decarbonise!*"

*But I'm not going to commit to this already existing plan that other candidates have committed to

"We must end the gender pay gap!"

*At a non-specific date in the future, when other candidates have committed to one

"We must increase income tax for high earners**"

**For some non-specific value of "increase" and "high earners".

"We must continue with left-wing policies!***"

***But I'm not going to tell you which ones and some of them will certainly have to go.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Alchenar posted:

I stopped at the last london mayoral election for the obvious reasons. Breaking out of tribal voting is a really liberating experience.

I was actually all on board for voting for a radical agenda this time around (the system is totally broken, and the Tories have stopped trying to at least keep it broken in a stable way, so why not). Ultimately antisemitism was a red line I wasn't prepared to cross so I sat the last one out. No I'm not going to be drawn on that, it's either obvious to you why that was a problem or it never will be.

It's either obvious to you why you're wrong about all the things you've been posting about this thread or it never will be.

E: 1956:
1st of Jan - Heroin possession becomes fully criminalised.
14th of March - Karl Marx memorial at Highgate cemetary is unveiled.
7th of May - Tory health minister rejects a call for the gov to lead an anti-smoking campaign as no ill-effects have yet been proven.
17th of October - The Queen opens the UK's first nuclear power plant.
12th of December - The IRA launches its Border Campaign in NI - about 150 IRA members attacked official targets on the border. A courthouse is burnt down, a half-built army barracks is blown up, and another (operational) army barracks is attacked.
25th of December - The first PG Tips ad with the chimpanzees airs.

WhatEvil fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Feb 12, 2020

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Borrovan posted:

is that because you can't rationalise a position that's obviously loving stupid

e: hey thread techies if I buy one of these can I just like plug my lovely laptop into it & use 2 monitors? I pinched a spare from a vacant office but my lovely work desktop doesn't support 2 monitors, so I can either wait like 2 months for IS to get me a new computer or just get finance to order me a thingy & have it by Friday

Seems to be saying that if you have HDMI-out it can support 2x 1080p monitors off it?

E: And you have to be on Win 7. 8.1 or 10, plus it doesn't support HDCP so you won't be able to play Blu-rays etc. over it which is weird because I think my brother got some kind of display-splitter and he said it effectively nullifies the HDCP thing? I dunno I'd have to ask him.

WhatEvil fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Feb 12, 2020

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

WhatEvil posted:

It's either obvious to you why you're wrong about all the things you've been posting about this thread or it never will be.

Wanted to come back to this because obviously I was very dismissive about it and other people have been too (not that it's entirely undeserved).

Seriously, you need to look at your thinking. If you find yourself having to make arguments in this fashion then something has gone seriously wrong with your ability to think critically and evaluate and form effective arguments. This is something many (most?) liberals seem to fall into. It's tied into a thinking of "common sense" as a useful guiding principle on political thought, whereas in reality people who think in this way tend to give into their own preconceived notions of what is right, rather than critically analysing things.

So as an example, prison sentences. Harsher prison sentences are associated with a lowering of the crime rate, obviously. It's just common sense.

Except they're not. The opposite is actually true. The stats are there to back this up. There are LOTS of things like this which are counterintuitive.

The problem is, "common sense" beyond like, very basic survival stuff (e.g. "I should not walk into the middle of a busy motorway if I want to stay alive") is really just a collection of your preconceived biases and can very often steer you in the wrong direction.

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WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

I really just wanted to get that out, because amazingly it feels actually good to talk things out, instead of weird and upsetting like I would have found it previously. Stay strong, goons.

Just want to say I sympathise greatly because I've just had a really horrible experience with my first job in Canada making me feel like this too (I quit and am currently unemployed and battling with anxiety).

So solidarity mate, hope you're OK.

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