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therattle posted:I don’t know, I think seeing the realisation slowly dawn on the UK negotiators that this isn’t going to be “the easiest negotiation ever” and that their position is actually very weak could be quite enjoyable. I highly doubt that the negotiators think it's going to be easy given they will all be career diplomats. It's the Tory partisans and leadership that would have to realise it, but instead they will blame the deep state and the perfidious EU.
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2020 11:52 |
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# ¿ May 9, 2024 21:51 |
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British government taking their cues from thrillers as usual?
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# ¿ Mar 16, 2020 02:40 |
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Yeah my position since the 2019 election is that the British people are wrong and the British political system is toxic from root to leaf, and ideally the entire constitutional monarchy should be uprooted and replaced with republican structures. British political culture is fundamentally anti socialist because the heart of it is mysticism and hierarchy; it can't be reformed. The things people say they love about Britain and which define Britain as a culture are the same things that make it toxic.
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# ¿ Mar 18, 2020 15:59 |
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V. Illych L. posted:
Well, Corbyn is gone, so... To be honest I think a lot of the British left and British people generally are probably more amenable to communism than to social democracy. Half of what the Sun and others are doing is talking about Workers being taken advantage of by The (left wing / liberal / multicultural) Elites; they do that because there is a definite anti-elitist tendency in the working class, which Boris just took advantage of to run against his own party. Fundamentally people are right that they're being screwed by the elites, they just tend to want to see the elites as notbritish. Social democracy isn't really appealing to a lot of people because it starts out talking the right talk but then wusses out when it comes to redistribution of wealth and who that benefits. For example, confiscating the land of the feudal landlords like the Duke of Westminster and putting it in a sovereign wealth fund seems like something that might have a few supporters.
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# ¿ Mar 19, 2020 01:04 |
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Sneak Lemming posted:This seems to be the issue, English people seem to tend to racism, whether or not they are socialist. I disagree with it being racism specifically. I think what English people hate is smooth talking, well-presented, sloganeering politicians. The problem is that you need to be a smooth talker to get ahead in politics unless you are massively privileged, so it's easier to target "inauthentic" women and people of colour than it is to target Boris, because Boris is "authentic". That's why Corbyn did so well in 2016: before he got on the wrong side of the Brexit debate, he was perceived as "authentic", but after the turn to Europe, the Labour Party became allied with middle-class interests at the expense of workers. That "authenticity" is largely a media creation of course, but Boris plays the role very well.
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# ¿ Mar 19, 2020 01:41 |
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If the British are inherently racist then the way forward for UK Labour is either embracing National Socialism or committing to being the party of opposition forever. Any kind of revolution or substantial reform is also impossible. Just how pessimistic is this thread anyway?
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# ¿ Mar 19, 2020 02:42 |
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Communist Thoughts posted:but its not hopeful since as discussed, the people were offered two crappy leaders but one offering you nice things and one telling you your children would be dying on the floors of hospitals If the electorate is the one in the wrong, there’s not much fixing to do in a democracy. Prepare the nerve staples.
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# ¿ Nov 1, 2020 16:25 |
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Amsterdam is like London except much more blunt and direct, and much prettier. You can get weed on every corner in both, but in Amsterdam they have shops for it. You can’t use toilets in shops without paying in both, but instead of loving around with key locks, the Dutch just charge you to use the bathroom. Just imagine everything about English culture (such as it is) magnified and in your face, and that’s Amsterdam. Also bikes.
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2020 01:26 |
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prefect posted:Is Amsterdam the one where there are stores with big glass windows out front showing off nekkid ladies? Yep, and we saw one when we went there. It’s only in one specific part of the red light district though. Not really judging whether the UK or Amsterdam is better, just the Dutch seem to have less compunctions about soulless capitalism than Brits do.
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# ¿ Dec 10, 2020 11:27 |
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Private Speech posted:tbh the HRA is truly dreadful stuff Look, if it stops us using the latest We have a lot to learn from our natural allies using this technology such as
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