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ABC news just implied Sanders is the same as Violent terror from Cuba. And asked Pete if he agreed.
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Feb 8, 2020 05:03
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this post debate interview with pete is just making it worse he's so panicked lol
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Feb 8, 2020 05:06
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Polybius91 posted:How much do debate performances matter, really? Trump ate poo poo in all his debates with Hillary, after all. That election was decided long before Hillary ever shared a stage with Trump.
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Feb 8, 2020 05:06
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Does anyone have the clip of Pete getting asked about incarceration?
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Feb 8, 2020 05:07
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TURGID TOMFOOLERY posted:ABC news just implied Sanders is the same as Violent terror from Cuba. And asked Pete if he agreed. The capitalists couldn't kill Castro and or even hurt his popularity either
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Feb 8, 2020 05:07
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Ghetto SuperCzar posted:Does anyone have the clip of Pete getting asked about incarceration? https://twitter.com/shaunking/status/1225990470876180482?s=21
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Feb 8, 2020 05:11
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Feb 8, 2020 05:12
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Feb 8, 2020 05:12
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I think a debate can matter in a Democratic primary. I agree that they will be borderline meaningless in the general election.
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Feb 8, 2020 05:14
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funkymonks posted:I think a debate can matter in a Democratic primary. I agree that they will be borderline meaningless in the general election. yea in the general they kinda mean nothing but in primaries they actually are important if only because a bad performance there can turn off voters with less fear than they'd have in the general. And looking at clips Pete and Joe had some BAD performances. Liz was a flat line and Klob and Yang got some good lines in but lol who gives a poo poo.
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Feb 8, 2020 05:15
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People that vote in primaries are engaged and follow the debates. Majority of US population doesn't watch any of that poo poo and only barely bothers to make it out on the day of the general to vote for their team.
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funkymonks posted:I think a debate can matter in a Democratic primary. I agree that they will be borderline meaningless in the general election. it's this
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funkymonks posted:I think a debate can matter in a Democratic primary. I agree that they will be borderline meaningless in the general election. This guy gets it
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Feb 8, 2020 05:19
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Pete 100% thought after his surge he was gonna get the media seal of approval carte blanche treatment and didn’t count on their addiction to Klobmentum.
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Feb 8, 2020 05:23
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Hayes openly laughing at that woman for still being undecided was pretty good.
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Feb 8, 2020 05:26
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funkymonks posted:I think a debate can matter in a Democratic primary. I agree that they will be borderline meaningless in the general election. I disagree. I think Hillary's triumphs on the debate stage fell hollow because she fundamentally failed as a politician.
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Feb 8, 2020 05:27
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buglord posted:I’m also curious about a similar sentiment I keep reading in D&D about x or y candidate not being able to take on trump. I’ve read multiple times “warren would crumble under trump!” Debates don’t seem to matter because trump shat himself in all the Hilary debates and still won. And like, even if the dem nominee gets slaughtered in debates for whatever reason, I can’t imagine too many democrats deciding it’s suddenly time to switch sides? That's the offer of every candidate on the stage tonight except Bernie Sanders. He's the only candidate with a positive vision as opposed to the absence of a negative one. He's the only one who is not ever going to make some bullshit excuse for why some people have to die from easily and inexpensively-treatable diseases because we can't afford to do anything else, the only one who says it's unequivocally wrong to send Americans overseas to kill people and to get killed themselves in order to line the bank account of capitalists. The other ones on the stage aren't saying it directly, but it's effectively what their campaigns and their administrations will be about, and while not everyone will see through that, with Trump pointing it out for them enough will for each of those candidates to ultimately lose. Because they're liars - and if you've got one liar lying to you about making things better, and another lying to you about why things can't be better, most people are going to take the former.
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Feb 8, 2020 05:32
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I was kind of annoyed that the opening questions seemed designed to be anti-Bernie with their "Do you guys have a problem with socialism being on the ticket?" but then this happened and I felt a lot better about ABC in general: Bernie did really well! He's gotten a lot better at pivoting to his policy points in a natural way since the first debate.
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Feb 8, 2020 05:36
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Feb 8, 2020 05:36
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How does Pete and his army of $500 an hour consultants not prepare an answer for this? I think the fact that CNN and everyone else gave him a pass made him too comfortable to forget this.
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Feb 8, 2020 05:41
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sexpig by night posted:yea in the general they kinda mean nothing but in primaries they actually are important if only because a bad performance there can turn off voters with less fear than they'd have in the general. They do materially affect the polls, and since the primaries happen pretty soon after I think a bump/dip from a debate will make a difference
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Feb 8, 2020 05:47
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Rad Russian posted:How does Pete and his army of $500 an hour consultants not prepare an answer for this? I think the fact that CNN and everyone else gave him a pass made him too comfortable to forget this. "Just deflect it like this" which would've worked, except she actually pushed him and held him to account for the specific question she asked and how he lied about it, which is actually doing Journalism which I have not seen on tv in a long time
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Rad Russian posted:How does Pete and his army of $500 an hour consultants not prepare an answer for this? I think the fact that CNN and everyone else gave him a pass made him too comfortable to forget this. I was going to say that it's kind of sad that for all the focus grouping and consulting he does about what to say, he answers all his questions like someone in English class who didn't do the reading. Then I realized he probably does it on purpose to avoid saying anything anyone could possibly disagree with
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Feb 8, 2020 05:48
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Cup Runneth Over posted:That election was decided long before Hillary ever shared a stage with Trump.
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Feb 8, 2020 06:03
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This debate loving ruled. Pete might be sweating that answer - he should be - but the loving establishment has to be crying right now. This is literally their best shot. This dude. What a loving disaster for them. This is getting so bad and so obviously in Bernie's favor that they might actually fuckin' just throw in the towel at this rate. e: Bernie's gonna win
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Feb 8, 2020 06:03
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Taima posted:This debate loving ruled. Pete might be sweating that answer - he should be - but the loving establishment has to be crying right now. This is literally their best shot. This dude. What a loving disaster for them. This is getting so bad and so obviously in Bernie's favor that they might actually fuckin' just throw in the towel at this rate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1yzo4dCw4Q
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Feb 8, 2020 06:06
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It's just funny because no one actually watches the debates, let's be real. I doubt Pete's answer is going to become a major news story (though it might be a talking point in summaries of the debate). But if you're the DNC right now, you know drat well what happened. You can never unhear that answer. It's like you're interviewing someone for a job, they seem to have great qualifications, and when you're shaking hands and leading them out of your office, they whisper the N word. The DNC has to be making GBS threads their pants right now. That was possibly the most revealing single exchange in the primary. Sorry I'm not trying to be hyperbolic, but this dude is so clearly not ready for prime time, it feels over to me. Even if the electorate doesn't absorb this exchange, the powers at be just poo poo their chinos.
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Feb 8, 2020 06:16
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Taima posted:It's just funny because no one actually watches the debates, let's be real. I doubt Pete's answer is going to become a major news story (though it might be a talking point in summaries of the debate). I think his answer to that question is going to have a tangible effect on the NH numbers. If he barely loses, blame it on that answer.
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Feb 8, 2020 06:18
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I assume the establishment has to be all in on Amy right now but it might be too late? Not sure what they can do. Biden is falling apart and Pete has not made any progress with minority voters.
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Feb 8, 2020 06:19
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Feb 8, 2020 06:22
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Rad Russian posted:I assume the establishment has to be all in on Amy right now but it might be too late? Not sure what they can do. Biden is falling apart and Pete has not made any progress with minority voters. Nothing could be better than going all in on Klobmentum. She was never and will never be a contender. Also it's too late. Now is the time to get right with your gods, for Bernie Gonna Win.
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ColonelMuttonchops posted:I wonder if the pete camp is going to try and bury any of the upcoming polls if they make him look bad. They tried to spike the Iowa caucus, of course they're gonna try to bury some bad polls.
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Not that I don't think it's an amazingly good point and a strong nod to some actual journalism I'd worry that without significant editing it's not gonna be a good soundbite. You slice either his initial response or his backup flailing and while it's totally an inadequate sidestep to the question posed I dunno if your average "vaguely follow politics" viewer would really pick up on just how bad he answered the question instead of just seeing some pretty generic tough on crime garbage.
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Feb 8, 2020 06:27
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I expect there to be new bullshit every day until super Tuesday and so should y'all. Reminder to toss a coin to your Sanders if you thought he did good tonight! https://secure.actblue.com/donate/bernie-february-donate/?refcode=tw200207-debat
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Feb 8, 2020 06:28
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I’m Bernies barely concealed contempt for everyone on stage
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ArbitraryC posted:Not that I don't think it's an amazingly good point and a strong nod to some actual journalism I'd worry that without significant editing it's not gonna be a good soundbite. You slice either his initial response or his backup flailing and while it's totally an inadequate sidestep to the question posed I dunno if your average "vaguely follow politics" viewer would really pick up on just how bad he answered the question instead of just seeing some pretty generic tough on crime garbage. Bernie's bit about 40 billionaires might be a bit snappier.
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Feb 8, 2020 06:29
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Office Pig posted:Bernie's bit about 40 billionaires might be a bit snappier. The best part of this was that it was directly after Warren subposting at Pete with her "people who are billionaires or who suck up to billionaires to fund their campaign" bit and bernie just goes "40 billionaires, PETE, you weasel, you little piece of poo poo, I mean you you little ratfaced gently caress"
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Grouchio posted:Blare this over every speaker This music video perfectly illustrates Bernie’s path to victory. I palm-slam the vhs into the slot every morning and do the moves alongside the main character, Bernie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV4oYkIeGJc
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