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is this seriously the level of discourse in yankeeland
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Feb 8, 2020 02:37
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tbh i don't think "lock him up" is necessarily going to be a very good slogan, it might be seen as plagiarism
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Feb 8, 2020 02:41
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Rochallor posted:The Hunter Biden stuff has the same feel as "but her emails." Legally it's bunk and Trump is just hammering hypocritically on it... but it's a really lovely thing that only the rich would get away with and it's going to irk regular people. the biden family is clearly spectacularly corrupt and should probably be charged with something
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Feb 8, 2020 02:46
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i love sanders' ole timey noo yark working-class jewish accent
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Feb 8, 2020 02:48
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mayo pete: as a spy myself i think we should listen more to our spy-american community
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Feb 8, 2020 02:52
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Trevorrrrrrrrrrrrr posted:yes lets just sit down and debate with Kim Jong Un cmon Bernie. eh, one of trump's best things was his short bromance with kim jong un before someone lost interest and the thing froze back over. rapprochement on the korean peninsula is in everyone's interest (except china i guess lol)
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Feb 8, 2020 02:57
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biden is just... blathering, jesus christ
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Feb 8, 2020 03:00
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pete's voice freaks me out, he's clearly had lessons of some kind
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Feb 8, 2020 03:01
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i actually tend to like steyer's points he's a monstrous plutocrat but tbh if this debate were all i had to go on he'd be probably my second choice
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Feb 8, 2020 03:05
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:he actually focus tested which one to use yeah he gives me some uncanny loving vibes
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Feb 8, 2020 03:14
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like i can see buttigieg showing up with gloves and some cheesewire and just choking the life out of someone who crossed him, totally expressionless
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Feb 8, 2020 03:16
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sanders is very good at making it seem like he know what he's talking about, i think it's the referring to things by their proper names
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Feb 8, 2020 03:22
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guns are the most inexplicably american culture war lol this is so boring
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Feb 8, 2020 03:24
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Not inexplicable considering how many mass shootings and school shootings we have lots of countries have high firearms density. most countries do not have that high mass shooting density. i mean i get that it's an issue, but it's so big in america idgi
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Feb 8, 2020 03:26
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klobuchar is really boring, but i get the impression that she can be very intimidating. what i'm saying is, i think she might be a match for trump as a bully also pete lol you stupid gently caress the supreme court has been party-political since the fukken whigs
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Feb 8, 2020 03:31
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steyer is just happy to be here, he seems to enjoy participating in the show and taking the opportunity to talk poo poo about politics on television
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Feb 8, 2020 03:38
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jettisonedstuff posted:Unless it's changed since like 3 weeks ago she performed the worst of all the candidates in head to head polls with Trump. polls are one thing, but i can see her doing well in debates and being able to counter trump's style of politics. pete is too clearly stuck-up, he'd get slaughtered, for example - i think klobuchar would be able to keep her head cool under fire and just out-mean him
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Feb 8, 2020 03:40
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ok i changed my mind this debate owns hahahahaha
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Feb 8, 2020 03:45
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Apocalypse posted:I don't know how he's going to erode Biden's support with the African American community if he won't point out how much damage he's done. there is nothing sanders can do to biden on this front that biden hasn't done to himself
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Feb 8, 2020 03:55
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money has too much of a role in politics! *steyer coughs billionairishly*
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Feb 8, 2020 03:56
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jesus this sentimental nonsense just stop it please
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Feb 8, 2020 03:57
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steyer keeps agreeing with sanders lol
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Feb 8, 2020 04:06
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denmark doesn't have a king atm it's got a queen regnant for shame klobb
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Feb 8, 2020 04:09
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Hellblazer187 posted:Who is richer, Bloomberg or Steyer? Both are richer than Trump, right? bloomberg is enormously richer bloomberg is *incomprehensibly* wealthy
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Feb 8, 2020 04:12
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warren seems awfully big on "sure everyone's been giving platitudes about this and nothing's happened about it for decades, but TRUST ME i'll actually fix it" is this her normal pitch because she's not a particularly honest person. like, not the biggest liar, but she's no paragon of personal integrity
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Feb 8, 2020 04:21
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god standing up there for three hours and having to focus and find spots to deliver your patter just seems so loving *exhausting*. must be about the worst part of the job, this aaaand here comes the klobb with another interminable and pointless anecdote yay
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Feb 8, 2020 04:25
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one thing i despise about political reporting is that they get caught up on the game and the flourishes instead of attempting to interrogate their programmes and ideologies, and it leaves them vulnerable to vacuous bullshit like this
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Feb 8, 2020 04:34
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nobody becomes a more enlightened voter by noting that biden attempted to stab bernie or whatever, jesus christ this isn't a sports event
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Feb 8, 2020 04:36
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French Canadian posted:I need someone here to respond to this intelligently, without using words like "smoothbrain", "rat", "reddit is bad", etc. Like, a non-reactionary response. Because if i just retort to someone who cites these stats in the way this thread would otherwise, it won't help anything. 1) if the final data point bucks the trend *that much* it's reasonable to assume that something's happened - i haven't actually crunched the numbers but that looks like it's a part of a crackdown or something. would be nice to see numbers for 2019; regardless, buttigieg seems to have deemphasised weed crimes for a while 2) the trend the moderator was pointing at was the second chart, where there is indeed a trend gonig towards the more relaxed enforcement proportionately benefiting white people more. this is not necessarily due to buttigieg acting in bad faith or being a big ole racist or whatever, but it's a sign that american law enforcement *is* basically racist and when told to step off, they'll tend to step off of whites more than blacks, and as mayor he didn't really see this as a priority. that is fair, but it also means that criticism on the grounds that he hasn't shown that he cares a lot about systemic racism is fair
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Feb 8, 2020 18:27
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this basic apathy also manifests itself in how unprepared he was to answer this question; it's pretty clear that he just didn't see this line of questioning coming from the moderator and hadn't thought it was important. the criticism isn't that he'd a secret klansman or anything, but that he does not see racial justice in america as a priority. which, again, it really seems as though he doesn't. e. i really do think that there *was* a satisfactory answer to that question available in the data - it was tough, but not a gotcha. he just flubbed it
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FizFashizzle posted:Only one cure for presidential ambition. guys like pete happen in every political movement. if the democratic party becomes the sanders party it's quickly going to fill up with petes. they're too bright and hard-working to keep out. really i think what prompted this run was the fact that indiana is a dead end for a democratic politician - he's got no other means of career progression than making a big splash and going national. he probably wasn't expecting this to go so well as to make him look like a plausible contender, but now it has gone that well and that's perfectly OK by pete. when he loses he'll have made a valiant effort and is suddenly prize property for any employer in the land, and he might be able to leverage this run into some federal position or maybe make a run at the senate if a seat looks vulnerable
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