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Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 9 hours!

Mr. Nice! posted:

Fun fact, the culinary workers union was responsible for MMA's blacklist in NYC for around 10 years or so. This was done entirely to spite the UFC's ownership.
Good.

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mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Bearjew posted:

Bernie has close to 3x as many paid staff in NV and likely many more volunteers, plus Bernie has actually effective labor and minority organizing

not to discount Pete because Rat's gonna Rat, but keeping my hopes up

just expect another iowa where pete does even better. bernie should do better too because it's not a 90% white electorate but realignment is gonna gently caress him

Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009

Bernie the Snow Clown

:thermidor:

Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009

Bernie the Snow Clown

bring back old gbs posted:

the leaders of a union are often wildly out of touch with their members


for example: your boss writing u a letter to tell u how dangerous it would be if you didn't have to buy a monthly healthcare plan

See also: the election of Donald Trump

Peacoffee
Feb 11, 2013


the fact that large trade unions even exist is proof that they don't fulfill their moral mandates. We've got graves all over the country to show for what happens when workers actually are organized. The only organization of labor allowed in this country relates to discussions on how to arrange the bodies in a graveyard.

Peacoffee has issued a correction as of 21:50 on Feb 12, 2020

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010




Biden sheepshly - Obama please say something about this

Obama arrogantly- Capital has spoken

Riatsala
Nov 20, 2013

All Princesses are Tyrants

wtf does PMC mean now? I'm a child of the Bush-era Private Military Contractors

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Riatsala posted:

wtf does PMC mean now? I'm a child of the Bush-era Private Military Contractors

The academic language has slipped containment

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
Professional Mercenarial Class

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

~🚚special delivery~📦

Riatsala posted:

wtf does PMC mean now? I'm a child of the Bush-era Private Military Contractors

solid snake-ishly: PMCs?

Star Phlatulence
Jan 14, 2006

by Cyrano4747
Bleak Gremlin
so... the moderates want warren to stay in, yeah?

yesterday and today, all of warren/biden/butt are pushing the "i'm in it for the long haul" message to make it clear that the brokered convention strategy is still alive.

but warren's funding has taken a huge hit, hasn't it? and warren's recently made those bizarre :actually: arguments about how she's the Candidate Most Pure in regard to dark money. (of note: warren used that opportunity to praise klobuchar for the same thing) i wonder if warren's campaign actually has a plan. because that sounds like the opposite of a plan.

tbh i'm startin to feel the "right now Warren is only thinking about pitching herself as VP to Klob or Butt" theory

Warren stays in the race, sometimes missing viability, sometimes hitting good ~20% results in her better states.
This keeps Warren relevant in the news and gives her a good rhetorical answer for why she's still in it.
Warren staying in the race only increases the chances of a brokered convention, which the moderates are hoping for.
Warren then gets the chance to wait and see regarding which moderate horse she should back.
Buttigieg/Warren or Klobuchar/Warren will be pushed as the "unity" choice. (or Bloomberg/Warren, but I really don't think Bloomberg is going to win many actual votes from the Butt/Klob crowd... or from anyone else, for that matter)

just one way it might play out. not the way i hope for, and 6 months ago it is not what i would have expected out of Warren. but that was then. i hope i'm wrong. thanx for reading, don't forget to like and subscribe :love:

Eat This Glob
Jan 14, 2008

God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. Who will wipe this blood off us? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent?

Mr. Nice! posted:

Fun fact, the culinary workers union was responsible for MMA's blacklist in NYC for around 10 years or so. This was done entirely to spite the UFC's ownership. At that time, they were owned by Lorenzo and Frank Fertitta who own the Station chain of casinos. They contract out their culinary workers and no one at their properties is a union worker. The CWU tried to use the NY laws as a cudgel to open the Fertitta casinos to the union. Frank and Lorenzo sold the UFC to WME-IMG a few years ago and this was mooted, so MMA is now legal in NY.

lol this post reminded me rosie odonnel's brother is (was?) a ny state lawmaker and talked about getting horned up on the floor when the mma legalization debate was happening

Limerick
Oct 23, 2009

:parrot:
Bernie Sanders

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

if you won the social scam lotto and were lucky enough to get the right education and connections to the point you move paper across a desk for a salary sufficient to live in a coastal city, you are PMC. "professional managerial class." once you're there there are structures in place to make you think you deserved it and are a very special boy or girl. that is the essence of Warren support and it is your duty to avoid the siren call of thinking you deserved it and gracefully accept your place on the gallows

(I would still like to pretend a/o believe that if you live off salary, you're a worker)

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



Eat This Glob posted:

lol this post reminded me rosie odonnel's brother is (was?) a ny state lawmaker and talked about getting horned up on the floor when the mma legalization debate was happening

I forgot about some of his quotes, but holy :lol: there's a treasure trove in here: https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/assembylman-daniel-o-donnell-compares-mma-gay-porn-article-1.2573866

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

Best Friends posted:

if you won the social scam lotto and were lucky enough to get the right education and connections to the point you move paper across a desk for a salary sufficient to live in a coastal city, you are PMC. "professional managerial class." once you're there there are structures in place to make you think you deserved it and are a very special boy or girl. that is the essence of Warren support and it is your duty to avoid the siren call of thinking you deserved it and gracefully accept your place on the gallows

(I would still like to pretend a/o believe that if you live off salary, you're a worker)

IDK I move paper and I could probably live in a coastal city but I live in KC because the cost of living is about a million times better (I own a home and it would cost at least half a million in California which would be completely unaffordable). I got incredibly lucky a bunch of times throughout my life, especially with how my career has moved in the past 7 years or so, my main skill seems to be in making people think I know what the gently caress I'm doing (I don't lol). Considering how the last decade of my dad's life went, I identify more with someone who works as a line cook than a lawyer. I have savings but like my ability to draw a salary is largely dependent on someone else not doing something incredibly dumb that results in me being laid off. My livelihood is at the whim of some coked out mook deciding if I make them more money than I cost, so I'm in the same boat as the janitor (who I could probably teach to do what I do), no executive is going to give a gently caress if I get hit by a bus tomorrow.

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

slopJoe 2020330 posted:

do we have any idea when NH's results will be 100%? the highest i've seen is 98% of precincts reporting

sometime in the next century im sure

gregday
May 23, 2003

https://twitter.com/jslovegrove/status/1227703302793695232

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

look at that Best Choice David Duchovny looking bitch

Gringostar
Nov 12, 2016
Morbid Hound

isnt this state gerrymandered to all hell?

Star Phlatulence
Jan 14, 2006

by Cyrano4747
Bleak Gremlin


says 100% reporting

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007



Dude looks like he got bit by a radioactive centrist

Charles 2 of Spain
Nov 7, 2017

https://twitter.com/meganmesserly/status/1227714155618209792

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

Fun Shoe

Lord of Pie posted:

Dude looks like he got bit by a radioactive centrist

he kind of looks like grady stiles

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

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Spergin Morlock posted:

he kind of looks like grady stiles

i’ve been trying to put my finger on it but the dude looks like the unholy love child of larry flynt and brett kavanaugh

Good soup!
Nov 2, 2010


:qq:

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

If I ever get exit polled I am going to give the most conflicting answers possible just to be an outlier and confuse people.

Hello yes I am voting for Bernie Sanders because he is the most conservative person in the race. No I will not explain.

Zoran
Aug 19, 2008

I lost to you once, monster. I shall not lose again! Die now, that our future can live!

Nix Panicus posted:

If I ever get exit polled I am going to give the most conflicting answers possible just to be an outlier and confuse people.

Hello yes I am voting for Bernie Sanders because he is the most conservative person in the race. No I will not explain.

I want to get interviewed for tv and explain that I like Bernie because he's the only one promising to take government out of healthcare entirely and give it to Medicare instead

Tetracube
Feb 12, 2014

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
if you're going to pretend to be stupid don't name bernie as your candidate lol

Tetracube
Feb 12, 2014

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
instead, say you voted for Jeb!

salisbury shake
Dec 27, 2011
lol https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/02/12/is-pete-buttigieg-jimmy-carter-20/

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Inverted Offensive Battle: Acupuncture Attacks Convert To 3D Penetration Tactics Taking Advantage of Deep Battle Opportunities

No, Carter won a presidential election. Pete never will.

Fireside Nut
Feb 10, 2010

turp


Dewgy posted:

solid snake-ishly: PMCs?

lol that got me

the yeti
Mar 29, 2008

memento disco



Gringostar posted:

isnt this state gerrymandered to all hell?

You might be thinking of north carolina but SC probably is too. Also just generally a dump.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007


I don’t give a poo poo what your state wants. bend the knee

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


Fun Shoe
They did, indeed, want socialism

Raiad
Feb 1, 2005

Without the law, there wouldn't be lawyers.


Gringostar posted:

isnt this state gerrymandered to all hell?

i think that's north carolina, but also yes

Ross DaouThot
Aug 31, 2018

when i hit that loud and open cspam the adam curtis music starts playing
my boss who’s cool: “hey how’s it going aren’t you excited! your boy won new hampshire”

me: “yeah i almost don’t wanna jinx it by saying it out loud, no contender has won both Iowa and New Hampshire and not gotten the democratic candidacy” :)

her: “but... he didn’t win Iowa...?”



i didn’t think my contempt for the rat and his rat tactics could reach greater depths in my soul

taqueso
Mar 8, 2004


:911:
:wookie: :thermidor: :wookie:
:dehumanize:

:pirate::hf::tinfoil:

Ross DaouThot posted:

my boss who’s cool: “hey how’s it going aren’t you excited! your boy won new hampshire”

me: “yeah i almost don’t wanna jinx it by saying it out loud, no contender has won both Iowa and New Hampshire and not gotten the democratic candidacy” :)

her: “but... he didn’t win Iowa...?”



i didn’t think my contempt for the rat and his rat tactics could reach greater depths in my soul

cue 30 minute presentation on iowa caucus results, followups, and current status

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Penisaurus Sex
Feb 3, 2009

asdfghjklpoiuyt

Best Friends posted:

if you won the social scam lotto and were lucky enough to get the right education and connections to the point you move paper across a desk for a salary sufficient to live in a coastal city, you are PMC. "professional managerial class." once you're there there are structures in place to make you think you deserved it and are a very special boy or girl. that is the essence of Warren support and it is your duty to avoid the siren call of thinking you deserved it and gracefully accept your place on the gallows

(I would still like to pretend a/o believe that if you live off salary, you're a worker)

If you want to get more specific/academic/boring, PMC is the caste that acts as the stewards and managers of the means of production.

They're the most alienated class in a capitalist society, and every bit as atomized as the proletariat, *BUT* their class interests do not align because PMC don't labor in a socially necessary fashion.

This goes back to Marx trying to define value and it coming from labor, but digging a ditch no one needs has no value.

You can replace PMC with 'white collar middle management bourgeois and consulting class' if you want.

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