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Who is your first pick in the deputy leadership race?
This poll is closed.
R. Allin-Khan 6 1.60%
R. Burgon 80 21.33%
D. Butler 72 19.20%
A. Rayner 35 9.33%
I. Murray 5 1.33%
P. Flaps 177 47.20%
Total: 375 votes
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CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back
thought for the month: what if that pub piss dungeon, but directly under thatcher's grave?

all you can see is an eyeball looking up through the flower holder

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CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

Camrath posted:

Awooga! Awooga! Fudjit is now open for March orders!
*stim noise* ahh, that's the stuff

Camrath posted:

And this month’s goon special: ‘The Great Divider’, made with the dreaded Terry’s Chocolate Orange.
a guillotine, only with a Chocolate Orange segment as the blade

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

namesake posted:

I'm afraid he'll get in on full membership votes, the liberalism is deep in the party membership.
Pretty much. It's been a disadvantage of the Corbyn "moral socialism" approach - the members' beliefs have no real common foundation or analysis, just what they individually brought into it. So in a lot of cases it's just going to be "austerity bad because hurts people", and I mean, fair enough, but it doesn't seem to be enough to carry a movement against the currents pushing back on it.

Also, going to be interesting (and perhaps upsetting) to see if the US left has any more luck with enthusiastic, well-targeted grassroots activism vs. establishment media. Hopefully they do better than we did.

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

Sanford posted:

When my new pet beetles are scared they stick their bum in the air and it looks like a scary little monster. My wife says I was more visibly delighted by this than I was when our daughter was born.


an excellent beetle :3:

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

Cerv posted:

shooting themselves in the foot when it comes to campaigning for the locals in May
the continued effects of Corbynism and leftist entryism will have been damaging local election results, and we cannot allow the left's influence to continue

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

stev posted:

C... can't you just take them out before they go down the plug?

good idea! just popping into the kitchen to get my colander

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

Pilchenstein posted:

I was in tesco an hour ago and they had shitloads of arserag left tbh, don't think we're all gonna die in the great andrex war of 2020 just yet despite journalism's wishes to the contrary :v:
you see me now a veteran
of a thousand wipe-poo poo wars

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

Guavanaut posted:

lol @ roast beef

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

SpicePro posted:

I recently made four jars worth of piccalilli that I'm scared to eat incase I've done something wrong, still, they have been in the fridge for 5 weeks now and there is no mould so that's a good sign right?
more like Spice Amateur, amirite

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

WhatEvil posted:

If anybody didn't bother to click through, this was an opposition day motion on health inequalities, proposed by Corbyn. It was as far as I can see, proposing investigations into health inequalities - poor people suffering due to cuts. Nadine Dorries was in the No lobby with 300+ other total shits voting against it.

If there's any justice in the world, they all have coronavirus now. It would be the most perfectly ironic and fantastic thing to ever have happened in the history of the world.
Problem is, if she (or any Tory) gets critical they'll end up taking a ventilator slot away from someone who might not be a dreadful person. Choices, choices

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back
Currently, the default is an opt-out checkbox: "[ ] I do not wish to get COVID-19".

This has been changed to an opt-in checkbox: "[ ] I wish to get COVID-19"

This will produce a 70-80% reduction in infection rates

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

peanut- posted:

Does the number of politicians and footballers getting this thing not suggest that the idea we've got a few hundred or low thousands of cases is completely fanciful? 600 cases in the whole country and two of them happen to be Mikel Arteta and Callum Hudson-Odoi?
Out of my arse - one theory might be that wealthy people tend to have fairly dense social networks, and meet with people who've travelled a lot, which would put them at a higher risk of catching it from an early case and spreading it to others. Then you might see higher spread amongst the "upper echelons" first.

Wouldn't want to bet on it, but it's a vaguely plausible story

(probably more likely that it's everywhere)

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

hemale in pain posted:

uk is taking the pickup artist dating approach to combat a viral disease.
neg my poz hole

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back
https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/plymouth-news/devon-cornwall-police-preparing-coronavirus-3948960

quote:

However, of this the current model estimate was that "81 percent of those infected will have minor symptoms. They will be sick for less than a week but will be expected to remain infectious for up to two weeks so will be isolated for that period.

"We have an estimate of 15 percent of those infected who will be described as having moderate symptoms and will be ill with what will feel like the flu.

And there is an estimate model of four percent of those infected who will need hospitalisation.

let's play a fun game called "does the person quoted not understand the model, or does the model ignore the evidence from other countries"

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back
Does anyone have any official source for the government's current modelling on percentage of non-hospitalised / hospitalised / critical cases?

The only reporting I can find says they assume 81% mild (few symptoms), 15% flu-like symptoms, 4% hospitalised, and I can't tell where they're sourced from

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

ThomasPaine posted:

I'm guessing they're just guesstimating based on the percentages in China/Italy/Elsewhere
The actual number used for each percentage looks in the right ballpark (80/15/5), but in China/Italy it's 80% with anything up to influenza symptoms and non-hospitalised pneumonia, 15% hospitalised and needing oxygen, and 5% critical

So, uh, I very much hope they have some different source and haven't hosed the modelling

(ed: or it's being reported badly. that would also be better!)

CGI Stardust fucked around with this message at 13:19 on Mar 14, 2020

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

jabby posted:

I know I haven't been in the thread much since the election, but I just wanted to give you a quick medical update:

:piss:
Good luck to you and all other medical goons. Stay safe :ohdear:

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back
Airdropping parcels of food by drone, much like in the Blitz

When the sound stops, you either get a can of pemmican, or get hit in the head by a drone with a failed engine

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

Soylent Yellow posted:

Most of the 70 and 80 year-olds I know will straight-up ignore a restriction like that while wondering what all the fuss is about. Just try telling my neighbour that Bingo night is cancelled.
actually have you considered... behavioural science


ThomasPaine posted:

That seems... good??
we're going to do things at some point. not yet though

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

Azza Bamboo posted:

I like how in all these "flatten the curve" diagrams they show some kind of surplus capacity in the healthcare system like it's not already balls-to-the-wall.

from this Medium article on the US which isn't by a medical professional but gets the point across





and if you take into account that most of the beds will already be in use, eek

(ed: dark red line shows ICU capacity in the US, and the curve models critical cases only)

CGI Stardust fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Mar 14, 2020

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

namesake posted:

Oh wow the USA is absolutely hosed.

We're merely heavily in deep loving trouble.

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

gently caress me. So to avoid unnecessary deaths they'd have to slow the infection to the point where it took about 12 years to finish?

And the US has more ICU capacity per capita than the UK?
Worth bearing in mind this isn't a proper official model, but it gets across how the "flattening the line" diagrams are perhaps just a tad misleading

I wonder if China would be willing to send us some help if we apologise for what we've done in the past

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

Guavanaut posted:

I'm sure they'd send some painkillers :kiddo:
turning the old bingo halls into fentanyl dens

vvv love to be living in a movie. it's really fun

CGI Stardust fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Mar 14, 2020

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

Z the IVth posted:

Some people will say Boris & Cum don't know what they're doing but in reality they are hoping to purge the population of "undesireables" but instead of building camps and gas chambers hey there's this handy virus that's just come about. Neither of them are in a high risk category after all.
Undesirables such as... the Conservative voter base??

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

namesake posted:

Gotta say I'm of the opinion that covid 19 would bring down any UK government and would have absolutely ruined any policy Labour had tried to roll out before now or in response to the virus given the press and political atmosphere they would have created towards it.

While the battlefield is radically different to what people were expecting and hoping for this is absolutely a second chance to get it right.
'Everything under heaven is in utter chaos; the situation is excellent.'

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

jabby posted:

Journalists are also not helping by repeating essentially government propaganda. Like this:

https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1238882397124526080

This was shown on Newsnight with the green line representing the government's approach, and the blue line the potential consequences of the approach all other countries are taking. Where does it come from you ask?

https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1238882902580092935

Eagle eyed viewers may note that in the original paper the green line actually represents "social distancing in place THROUGHOUT the epidemic" while the blue line is more stringent measures initially that are then lifted.

No line is drawn for the government's actual approach, which is no social distancing measures initially and then when they are introduced they remain for a limited time. Possibly because it's the worst of both the blue and red lines. But no, we are (according to journalists) the green line.

EDIT: Also important to note there are no numbers on the graph, because as the example from the US earlier shows as soon as you start using numbers it might become obvious that you'd have to spread the outbreak over an entire decade to prevent the health service collapsing. And we can't tell people that.
loving hell. didn't spot that.

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back
could someone please "don't sign your posts" this tweet. thank you.

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back
hell yes, these are splendid birbs

please post many more

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

crispix posted:

I think this is the ideal time to finally be rid of the handshake forever. What would you all like to see it replaced with? I personally quite fancy the sharp teutonic head bow :hai:
small nod with "aight?"

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

Pencils R Cool posted:

https://www.tes.com/news/coronavirus-schools-close-all-children-key-workers posted:

Schools 'to close to all but children of key workers'

The government is set to announce that schools will be closed for a few weeks in response to the spread of coronavirus – but remain open to children of key workers, such as nurses, according to reports.

In the next stage of the government's plans for dealing with Covid-19, skeleton staff will remain in schools to provide childcare and keep public services up and running, while other pupils will have to stay away, it was reported last night.

On the Sophy Ridge on Sunday TV show this morning, health secretary Matt Hancock confirmed that the government would be making an announcement on the next stage of its plans on Tuesday, following a Cobra meeting on Monday.

This week, the NEU teaching union joint general secretaries Mary Bousted and Kevin Courtney wrote to prime minister Boris Johnson to demand answers about the risks of infection to staff and pupils of schools staying open.

The letter says: "Every day, we are increasingly getting asked why schools aren't closing if mass gatherings are to be suspended.

"We all want to limit and delay the spread of the coronavirus and we do think medical advice and expert scientific guidance is important in this regard."
TES are reporting that we might actually get school closures?
at some point, maybe, but as always, not now

don't worry, they'll move to the next stage of their plans when they feel they've done everything they can in this stage. ahaha

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

endlessmonotony posted:

So last I heard the UK government's response was something along the lines of "we have stockpiles of everything necessary, including sherry, and no one Fortunate enough to live in Britain is going to die of the cough".

Has anything changed?
first,
"we're going to give everyone the cough, the strong will survive, and mystical secrets of The Herd Immunity will be granted us by the gods"

and now,
"we promise we're not trying to give everyone the cough, and we might take some steps at some point, but not yet. stop asking. also we're only going to test the hospitalised."

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

namesake posted:

Well herd immunity is a thing, that's not what the problem is. The problem is getting it through population level exposure rather than vaccination with inadequate monitoring of cases or protection of high risk category people.
I know :v: It's their repeated public incantations of the protective magic Science!!! spells "herd immunity level 3" and "flattening the curve level 1" while hiding the underlying data and assumptions that winds me up (ed: unless anyone's managed to find anything they've published on it?)


endlessmonotony posted:

I heard something about making sure the elderly don't leave their homes recently though.
they've announced (well, leaked rather) that that's planned. in the next phase. which is not now. but they're doing all they can in this phase, don't worry

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

StarkingBarfish posted:

Long-tailed tits are the tits.




There's a load of robins as well but they don't hang around the feeder, they fly in, grab something and fly out. I'm shooting manual focus so this makes it near impossible to catch them.

lollipops :3:

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

ThomasPaine posted:

UK a promising underdog in the back there lmao
At least we're merely a steep line on a log scale. Could be an exponential curve!

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


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election time is but a window.

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StarkingBarfish posted:

Have a very photogenic bluetit doing the 'guardian op-ed journo' pose:


Polly Toynbeak :3:

Dowominyic Cuwummings

an anime starring Sensei Dominic of the Flowing Caliper dojo

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

StarkingBarfish posted:

Your daily garden bird update:



~chirp~
missed this one :3:

Mebh posted:

Yay birbs.
indeed!

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

Necrothatcher posted:

Anyone else feel like a frog in water that's slowly getting warmer?
like a frog in water that's rapidly getting warmer but also there's a glass lid on the saucepan and something's looking in and laughing

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


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election time is but a window.

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Tories, up to their old tricks of making a big fuss then doing absolutely gently caress-all. Astounding, incredible.

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back
I'm wondering if the government has looked at Italy, seen that locking down some time after announcing lockdown only triggers people to leave, and decided to do everything all at once

Undead Hippo posted:

Schools are now being used only for the children of key workers, such as those responsible for medically treating the virus and with the highest infection risk. Thus ensuring that when the children of those key workers are infected they have maximum mixing with the children of other keyworkers. And so we maximally ensure the complete infection of all key workers in as short a timeframe as possible.
It's so, so good

StarkingBarfish posted:

This essential worker arrived to have breakfast with me this morning:


seed funding for a little entrepreneur :3:

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

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pumpinglemma posted:

One parent who's a key worker? That's just taking the piss.
almost like they're trying to spread it using key workers' children :thunk:

goddamnedtwisto posted:

This explains why every pawn shop in Hackney had "Face masks £1.99 each" signs in the window.
keep yourself safe with a Matt Hancock face mask! the virus will never infect our perfect boy!
https://www.funkybunky.co.uk/Item/Matt-Hancock-Mask

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CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back
those who built their TP forts up sensibly, over time - should be praised and encouraged

those who panic buy TP, desperately assembling a groverfort while denying others the ability to wipe - they will be dragged into the town square wherein people may speak at length of their faults and hit them with shoes; their TP forts will be reclaimed by the people

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