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AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006


One of the worst things about Trump is his approach of not paying his vendors until a court forces him to, and it's one of the reasons he had to resort to reality TV.

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AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Woofer posted:

Did the DNC go to all of these people and beg them to drop out and endorse Biden?

Does Vegas have odds on Bernie getting screwed? Because I’d take that bet.

It's never been more obvious that the DNC is filled with boomers who are more afraid for their personal wealth than the well being of the country.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Chichevache posted:

They are real liberals. We want socialists.

And as long as Republicans are calling anyone to the left of Mussolini a socialist, there's no reason for the American left to bother with moderates. Biden will get called a socialist as much as Bernie.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Defenestrategy posted:

Is this actually a thing where rich people actually hate each other and just marry off to each other for status' sake. That seems hilarious.

One or both partners in a relationship retiring is a common catalyst for divorces. People who can't stand being around each other can stay married for a long time by spending more time working than being around each other.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

shame on an IGA posted:

Jesus christ let this man go home and have a blankie and some warm milk and pet a good dogge already

https://twitter.com/BethLynch2020/s...ingawful.com%2F

Biden was opposed to integrating public schools in the 1980s, it's absurd he isn't being shouted off every Democratic stage he stands on.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Jarmak posted:

So were a lot of the people voting in this Primary. Popular but bad old ideas by their nature necessitate that voters used to share those ideas and changed. The idea that they are legitimate mistakes that can be learned from is a core part of those voters identities/positive sense of self.

But I too can't imagine why writing off people that held bad but formerly mainstream opinions decades ago as irredeemable pieces of poo poo doesn't play with the electorate.

Except he wasn't opposed to it in the 1950s, he made a public show if it in the 1980s. He was in his 40s and a US Senator, and had grown up through the civil rights era. The only people opposed to school integration in the 1980s were, frankly, racists and Biden had every opportunity to be better by that point.

e: as usual, dril made the point more succinctly

https://twitter.com/dril/status/841892608788041732

AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Mar 3, 2020

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

facialimpediment posted:

There is a very, very reasonable take that Hillary lost the Midwest (again, ~80k voters) because black voters didn't turn out in the cities. Biden's turning out those voters, plus there's a suburban surge, tracking pretty closely with the 2018 elections. Biden's national head-to-heads are more or less equal to Bernie's, margin of error stuff. Really, you could say that about all of the Democrats.

So feel free to hail gay satan, but it's better than y'all think. I won't be voting for Biden in the primary, but he's sure getting $420 if he's the nominee.

And Bernie's main constituency is the younger end of the electorate. If they're not going to turn out to primaries to nominate him, it feels like a stretch to assume they'll turn out in force in November.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Milo and POTUS posted:

What's trump's approval ratings? Obviously I imagine Bush c 2008 to be lower but that post 9/11 wave he rode lasted for a while and probably drove the mean up. What I'm asking is if he's the most unpopular president in my short life


AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006


If someone can look at the current political situation and decide that Republicans are worth voting for because of their stance on guns while ignoring everything else, they're not worth engaging with.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Godholio posted:

There aren't many "one-issue" issues in this country, but guns is absolutely one of them. Talking about gun confiscation is about as appealing as proposing mandatory abortions to a loving lot of people. If they're not in Trump's camp, they'll probably just stay home.

Which fucks the Democrats. This is the kind of poo poo I've been talking about for...oh I dunno, the past 5 years. You didn't believe me in 2016, and 2020 looks like more of the same.

I get that these people exist, but they are stupid. I'm probably crazy, but I think turnout is more likely to be improved by engaging intelligently with voters rather than pandering to idiots.

AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Mar 11, 2020

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

What is up with people not voting? Mandatory voting would be nice, but people doing their basic loving civic duty would be nicer.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

sharknado slashfic posted:

Love to know how many people have both the financial and property capacity to stockpile 3 months worth of food.

It's not going to be pleasant, but 2000 calories of rice and beans is like a dollar, that's 3 months of food at $90/person. About the same for non-fancy oil. Not that much cabinet space needed.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006


Obligatory reminder not to take acetaminophen with alcohol.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Defenestrategy posted:

Running Hillary Clinton as the D nominee led to Trump getting elected, which ended up with all the stuff that has followed.

So there should be a giant domino labeled "Trump and non-voters" at the start also?

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Waroduce posted:

Jim Cramer legit advocating for CLOSING THE MARKET on CNBC right now lmao. This is cool

Probably should be physically closed, but I'm assuming he's talking about protecting funny money.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

ASAPI posted:

Anyone else have a SO that is freaking the gently caress out? I can't figure out how to calm her down.

Same as any other disaster, make plans for what you can and accept that some things are out of your control.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

orange juche posted:

Means testing is horseshit hth. How do they distribute the funds to individuals who are on SSDI or something like that where they don't have a taxable income?

Someone getting a fixed government check isn't going to be directly impacted by a shutdown of the service and tourism industries though. I think it makes sense to let office employees who can work from home, state/federal employees who will keep getting paid, and retirees and such that don't rely on earned income shoulder the burden while putting more in the hands of those that will be out of work and not collecting an income.

E: I say this as an office worker that will be working from home indefinitely. I'm not the person who needs help under the circumstances.

AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Mar 17, 2020

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

SimonCat posted:

An interesting idea for getting people paid in the airlines is giving the companies money with the stipulation that it has to be used to pay their employee's salaries, as opposed to any other purpose.

Instead of giving it directly to unemployed workers because .....

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

SimonCat posted:

Well, this particular case was for people employed by the airlines. The airlines that will not be able to meet their payroll obligations due to the decreased flight traffic due to the virus.

Right, so why launder the money through the airline? Just cut checks to workers. Giving it to the airlines just means the same public money will disproportionately go to higher income workers.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Nostalgia4Butts posted:

Amash is ok now right

More of a stopped clock, other Republicans are so internally inconsistent they can't even get that right.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

BigDave posted:

My dad just bought some yeast to bake his own bread for the first time, and he's very seriousaly thinking about building a chicken coop and buying a few hens for fresh eggs.

I can't tell if he's crazy or forward thinking at this point.

Neither, both of those things would have been reasonable hobbies last year.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Internet Wizard posted:

It'll also kill off Biden voters

Too bad the primaries are effectively over.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

hobbesmaster posted:

It cannot be emphasized enough that Biden is anti abortion. There is literally no reason to vote for him.

Almost everyone is anti-abortion, even the people getting them are typically not thrilled by the situation. The question is what are they going to do to stop people from getting abortions, and Trump has nominated dozens of judges that will support blocking abortions.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Eej posted:

Because AreWeDrunkYet took the opportunity to frame Pro-Life and Pro-Choice as both under the same umbrella of "Anti Abortion" which is the word choice that hobbesmaster used. Which implies that Biden's support of the Hyde Amendment for decades up until people started yelling at him about it last year when he decided to go for the nomination puts him on the same level as any Pro-Choice candidate because "yeah no one actually likes abortions!!"

Trump is vocally and actively implementing pro-life policy, even though he is probably not in the least bit anti-abortion. Biden is by far the better of the viable presidential candidates for womens' reproductive health options regardless of opinions or past policy positions.

Biden's history on the topic should be a strong push towards Bernie, but now people are using it justify a de facto vote for Trump. That's just backwards.

AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 13:51 on Mar 27, 2020

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Mr. Nice! posted:

The majority of abortions are not invasive and require taking two pills.

At least in the US as of a couple years ago, most abortions were still surgical. And the medical option has side effects that mean women should only use it as a fallback option.

Even discounting the physical risks, many women describe an emotional or psychological impact from getting an abortion. I've certainly never talked to anyone who was happy about getting one except as an improvement over the alternative.

The process needs to be easily available and non-judgmental, but at the same time doctors should work with patients to minimize the risk of unwanted pregnancy in the first place. And wouldn't you know it, countries with comprehensive reproductive health systems tend to have fewer abortions.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006


Surely both sides will show decorum in these difficult times.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1243534445367492608

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

M_Gargantua posted:

I acknowledge that there is a difference. That doesn't mean Biden should just coast to the general without fighting for a majority of voters by courting them with policies they care about. Legalizing marijuana would be a great literal fig leaf to gain him a huge segment of voters. March is not the point to circle the wagons and ask every breathing adult to just accept a half assed canidate just because he's less worse.

For better or worse, the primaries are effectively over. If millennials and/or progressives had turned out for once we wouldn't be having this discussion.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Nick Soapdish posted:

Can't wait for the History undergrad in 2070 watching this while writing a paper on America

That actually makes me wonder, does the sheer volume and preservation of primary sources these days mean that it will be logistically impossible to get into them in the same depth as we have for pre-Internet sources?

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

BUG JUG posted:

Nah shits gonna get real cool with the data mining tools we will have. History gonna be lit in 30-40 years.

This sounds like an awesome way to extrapolate the bias of the people writing the data mining tools/queries under the guise of scientific accuracy.

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AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

shame on an IGA posted:

In case anyone is interested, this is why adding a "." at the end of most news site urls bypasses the paywall. TLDR: the people programming the scripts have an incomplete understanding of how DNS works and don't check for the rarely used but valid complete form.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fully_qualified_domain_name

That seems like an easy "bug" fix though, and there's no way they aren't aware of the workaround.

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