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Full results including Dave's write-ups are here. First Place Votes in Parentheses, total number of votes on the right. CATEGORY A: Lou Thesz/Ric Flair Award (Wrestler of the Year) 1. Chris Jericho (522) 3,695 2. Kazuchika Okada (349) 3,133 3. Will Ospreay (158) 1,773 4. Cody (72) 865 5. Adam Cole (26) 459 6. Kento Miyahara (51) 422 7. Kota Ibushi (14) 234 8. Jon Moxley (11) 217 9. Hiroshi Tanahashi (2) 158 10. Kenny Omega (1) 109 Honorable Mention: Becky Lynch 105 Most Outstanding Wrestler 1. WILL OSPREAY (852) 4,951 2. Kazuchika Okada (157) 2,095 3. Kota Ibushi (36) 937 4. Shingo Takagi (20) 895 5. Tomohiro Ishii (31) 608 6. Johnny Gargano (9) 284 7. Rey Fenix (19) 312 8. Kento Miyahara (14) 260 9. Adam Cole (7) 211 10. Kenny Omega (13) 175 Honorable Mentions: Hiroshi Tanahashi 149, Zack Sabre Jr., 131, Konosuke Takeshita 104, Daniel Bryan 103, Walter 79 Tag Team of the Year 1. Lucha Bros (708) 4,476 2. Matt & Nick Jackson (222) 2,640 3. Bobby Fish & Kyle O’Reilly (145) 1,885 4. Santana & Ortiz (35) 576 5. Suwama & Shuji Ishikawa (33) 328 6. Tama Tonga & Tanga Loa (6) 217 7. Go Shiozaki & Katsuhiko Nakajima (25) 163 8. Frankie Kazarian & Scorpio Sky (7) 122 9. Will Ospreay & Robbie Eagles 121 10. Mark & Jay Briscoe (14) 99 Honorable Mentions: Viking Raiders 80, Sho & Yoh 78, New Day 69, Ricky Morton & Robert Gibson 67 Best on Interviews 1. Chris Jericho (569) 4,103 2. Cody (378) 3,325 3. MJF (90) 1,169 4. Jon Moxley (12) 479 5. Zack Sabre Jr. (20) 364 6. Nick Aldis (25) 334 7. Becky Lynch (38) 333 8. Daniel Bryan (5) 212 9. David Starr (23) 183 10. Samoa Joe (2) 139 Honorable Mentions: Jay White 119, Paul Heyman 103, Bray Wyatt 90, Will Ospreay 80, Kevin Owens 67, Tim Storm 66 Promotion of the Year - Seems to be a typo on this one? Or Dave put in 11 because one of the Top 10 was an MMA promotion? 1. New Japan Pro Wrestling (744) 4,848 2. All Elite Wrestling (389) 3,691 3. WWE (25) 1,177 4. NWA 335 5. UFC (7) 296 6. Dragon Gate (2) 255 6. Stardom (4) 135 7. DDT (26) 224 8. AAA 147 9. OTT 144 10. All Japan Pro Wrestling 127 Honorable Mentions: Impact 120, Game Changer Pro Wrestling 62 Best Weekly TV Show 1. AEW Dynamite (793) 4,854 2. NXT (192) 3,294 3. NWA Powerrr (126) 1,580 4. New Japan on AXS (73) 691 5. Being the Elite (11) 576 6. MLW Fusion (7) 385 7. Beyond Uncharted Territory (15) 231 8. AEW Dark 204 9. Impact Wrestling (2) 138 10. AEW Road To (6) 114 Honorable Mentions: WWE Raw 90, AAA Worldwide 85, WWE Smackdown 78, NXT U.K. 66 Match of the Year 1. Will Ospreay vs. Shingo Takagi 6/5 Tokyo (330) 2,549 2. Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Kenny Omega 1/4 Tokyo (259) 2,156 3. Cody vs. Dustin Rhodes 5/24 Las Vegas (151) 1,295 4. Kazuchika Okada vs. Will Ospreay 7/20 Tokyo (127) 1,141 5. Johnny Gargano vs. Adam Cole 4/5 Brooklyn (97) 1,033 6. Shingo Takagi vs. Tomohiro Ishii 8/8 Yokohama (31) 450 7. Young Bucks vs. Pentagon Jr. & Fenix 8/31 Chicago (43) 427 8. Walter vs. Tyler Bate 8/31 Cardiff (19) 338 9. Kota Ibushi vs. Jay White 8/12 Tokyo (13) 259 10. Jon Moxley vs. Tomohiro Ishii 7/19 Tokyo (8) 186 Honorable Mentions: Will Ospreay vs. Dragon Lee 6/9 Osaka 153, Jordan Devlin vs. David Starr 10/26 152, Kofi Kingston vs. Daniel Bryan 4/7 East Rutherford, NJ 122, Arisa Nakajima vs. Nanae Takahashi 11/2 Kawasaki 97, Kazuchika Okada vs. Kota Ibushi 8/10 Tokyo 91, Kenny Omega vs. Jon Moxley 11/9 Baltimore 90, Rocky Romero vs. El Phantasmo 5/24 Tokyo 81, Young Bucks vs. Pentagon Jr. & Rey Fenix 5/24 Las Vegas 73, Will Ospreay vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi 8/10 Tokyo 60 CATEGORY B: United States/Canada MVP 1. Chris Jericho 950 2. Cody 102 3. Adam Cole 86 4. Johnny Gargano 20 5. Nick Gage 15 6. Becky Lynch 15 7. Daniel Bryan 14 8. Jon Moxley 14 9. Kenny Omega 13 10. Seth Rollins 11 Previous Winner 2018: AJ Styles Japanese MVP 1. Kazuchika Okada 810 2. Will Ospreay 133 3. Kento Miyahara 90 4. Kota Ibushi 78 5. Tetsuya Naito 26 6. Konosuke Takeshita 15 7. Hiroshi Tanahashi 13 Previous Winner 2018: Kenny Omega Mexico MVP 1. Rey Fenix 376 2. Rush 177 3. L.A. Park 144 4. Pentagon Jr. 137 5. Dragon Lee 82 6. Blue Demon Jr. 64 7. Psycho Clown 62 8. Ultimo Guerrero 58 9. Dr. Wagner Jr. 39 10. Laredo Kid 24 Honorable Mentions: El Hijo del Vikingo 17, Caristico 16, Kenny Omega 13 Previous Winner 2018: L.A. Park Europe MVP 1. WALTER 537 2. Will Ospreay 266 3. David Starr 212 4. Zack Sabre Jr. 154 5. Jordan Devlin 79 6. Pete Dunne 15 7. Tyler Bate 12 8. Timothy Thatcher 11 9. Chris Brookes 10 10. Pac 7 Previous Winner 2018: WALTER Non-Heavyweight MVP 1. Will Ospreay 1,015 2. Dragon Lee 31 3. Shingo Takagi 31 4. Rey Fenix 26 5. El Hijo del Vikingo 20 6. David Starr 14 7. Johnny Gargano 7 8. El Hijo del Phantasmo 6 Previous Winner 2018: Will Ospreay Women MVP 1. Becky Lynch 534 2. Tessa Blanchard 153 3. Shayna Baszler 96 4. Ronda Rousey 73 5. Io Shirai 62 6. Riho 60 7, Rhea Ripley 49 8. Mayu Iwatani 44 9. Saree 33 10. Momo Watanabe 24 Honorable Mentions: Charlotte Flair 20, Arisa Hoshiki 15, Hana Kimura 14 Previous Winner 2018: Becky Lynch Best Box Office Draw 1. Chris Jericho 540 2. Brock Lesnar 99 3. Jon Jones 82 4. Kazuchika Okada 78 5. Nate Diaz 73 6. Kenny Omega 63 7. Cody 41 8. Becky Lynch 27 9. Ronda Rousey 20 10. L.A. Park 17 Feud of the Year 1. Adam Cole vs. Johnny Gargano 405 2. Chris Jericho vs. Cody 198 3. Young Bucks vs. Pentagon Jr. & Rey Fenix 121 4. Daniel Bryan vs. Kofi Kingston 66 5. Jushin Liger vs. Minoru Suzuki 64 6. David Starr vs. Jordan Devlin 56 7. Colby Covington vs. Kamaru Usman 42 8. Becky Lynch vs. Ronda Rousey vs. Charlotte Flair 38 9. Kazuchika Okada vs. Sanada 37 10. Cody vs. MJF 36 Honorable Mentions: Dr. Wagner Jr. vs. Blue Demon Jr. 33, Kazuchika Okada vs. Jay White 30, Kota Ibushi vs. Tetsuya Naito 19, Elite vs Inner Circle 18, Cody vs. Dustin Rhodes 18, Kenny Omega vs. Jon Moxley 14 Most Improved 1. Lance Archer 270 2. Jon Moxley 205 3. Jungle Boy 128 4. Rhea Ripley 73 5, Taichi 40 6. Jay White 36 7. MJF 34 8. Darby Allin 30 9. Cody 30 10. Will Ospreay 27 Honorable Mentions: Keith Lee 24, Arisa Hoshiki 16, Tessa Blanchard 15,Toa Henare 15, Yuya Uemura 13, Dustin Rhodes 12 Most Charismatic 1. Chris Jericho 318 2. Cody 194 3. Tetsuya Naito 117 4. Hiroshi Tanahashi 84 5. MJF 67 6. Jon Moxley 54 7. Becky Lynch 44 8. Orange Cassidy 42 9. Matt Riddle 32 10. Kento Miyahara 28 Honorable Mentions: Adam Cole 20, Minoru Suzuki 20, Jorge Masvidal 17, Hana Kimura 17, Maki Itoh 16, Velveteen Dream 13, Jay White 12, Will Ospreay, 12, Bray Wyatt 11 Bryan Daniel Award/Best Technical Wrestler 1. Zack Sabre Jr 895 2. Daniel Bryan 97 3. Will Ospreay 37 4. Sanada 35 5. Jonathan Gresham 32 6. Minoru Suzuki 19 7. Timothy Thatcher 19 8. Johnny Gargano 12 Bruiser Brody Memorial Award/Best Brawler 1. Tomohiro Ishii 474 2. Jon Moxley 397 3. Shingo Takagi 110 4. Minoru Suzuki 42 5. Walter 31 6. Blue Demon Jr. 28 7. Chris Jericho 25 8. Nick Gage 21 Best Flying Wrestler 1. Will Ospreay 667 2. Rey Fenix 366 3. Dragon Lee 36 4. El Hijo del Vikingo 35 5. Ricochet 18 6. Shun Skywalker 17 7. Tetsuya Endo 16 8. Jacob Fatu 16 Most Overrated 1. King Corbin 696 2. Seth Rollins 120 3. Bray Wyatt 71 4. Lacey Evans 30 5. Shane McMahon 25 6. Britt Baker 24 7. Jay White 23 8. Brock Lesnar 18 9. Sanada 17 10. Cody 12 Honorable Mention: Juice Robinson 11 Most Underrated 1. Chad Gable 266 2. Matt Riddle 90 3. Toa Henare 50 4. Ricochet 43 5. Tomohiro Ishii 36 6. Mustafa Ali 32 7. Samoa Joe 31 8. Kushida 31 9. Cesaro 25 10. Pac 25 Honorable Mentions: Buddy Murphy 24,Sami Zayn 24, Tyler Bate 19, Gran Metalik 18, Cedric Alexander 18, Andrade 17, Black Taurus 15, Asuka 15, Minoru Suzuki 15, The Revival 14, Lance Archer 13, Kenny Omega 13, Rey Fenix 13, Jordan Devlin 13, Shingo Takagi 13, Finn Balor 12, Sanada 12, EC 3 12, Roman Reigns 11 Rookie of the Year 1. Jungle Boy 249 2. Karl Fredericks 219 3. Cain Velasquez 64 4. Clark Connors 36 5. Kris Statlander 26 6. Strong Machine J 24 7. Private Party 12 8. Marko Stunt 12 9. Alex Coughlin 11 Best Non-Wrestler 1. Paul Heyman 378 2. Zelina Vega 122 3. Salina de la Renta 119 4. Gedo 96 5. Tully Blanchard 78 6. William Regal 35 7. Aubrey Edwards 34 8. Katsuyori Shibata 31 9. Pieter 30 10. Jake Hager 30 Honorable Mentions: Kamille 29, Miho Abe 25, Orange Cassidy 17, Malcolm Bivens 14, Drake Maverick 12, Brandi Rhodes 12 Best Television Announcer: 1. Kevin Kelly 654 2. Excalibur 146 3. Tony Schiavone 131 4. Mauro Ranallo 105 5. Nigel McGuinness 66 6. Jim Cornette 45 7. Jim Ross 15 8. Hugo Savinovich 15 9. Don Callis 13 10. Chris Charlton 13 Worst Television Announcer: 1. COREY GRAVES 474 2. Michael Cole 242 3. Beth Phoenix 77 4. Renee Young 42 5. Jim Ross 39 6. Mauro Ranallo 38 7. Alex Marvez 36 8. Byron Saxton 35 9. Josh Matthews 18 10. Jerry Lawler 17 10. Jim Cornette 17 Honorable Mention: Dio Maddin 11 Best Major Wrestling Show 1. AEW Double or Nothing 5/25 Las Vegas 359 2. NJPW Wrestle Kingdom 13 1/4 Tokyo Dome 323 3. NXT Takeover New York 4/5 Brooklyn 260 4. NJPW G-1 Climax final 8/12 Tokyo 44 5. NJPW Best of the Super Juniors finals 6/5 Tokyo 42 6. DDT Ultimate Party 11/3 Tokyo 17 7. DDT Coming to America 4/4 New York 15 8. NJPW Dominion 6/9 Osaka 14 9. WWE WrestleMania 4/7 East Rutherford, NJ 13 10. NXT Takeover 6/1 Bridgeport, CT 13 Honorable Mention: AEW Full Gear 11/9 Baltimore 12 Worst Major Wrestling Show 1. WWE SUPER SHOWDOWN 6/7 JEDDAH 427 2. WWE Hell in a Cell 10/6 Sacramento 343 3. WWE Crown Jewel 10/29 Riyadh 180 4. WWE TLC 12/15 Minneapolis 57 5. WWE WrestleMania 4/7 East Rutherford, NJ 24 6. CMLL 86th Anniversary show 9/27 Mexico City 17 Best Wrestling Maneuver 1. Will Ospreay Stormbreaker 162 2. Kenny Omega One Winged Angel 147 3. Kazuchika Okada Rainmaker 134 4. Will Ospreay Hidden Blade 90 5. Chris Jericho Judas Effect 65 6. Shingo Takagi Last of the Dragon 58 7. Kota Ibushi kamagoye 33 8. Darby Allin Coffin drop 32 9. Shingo Takagi Pumping Bomber 32 10. Rey Fenix Tightrope kick 27 Honorable Mentions: Jay White bladerunner 24, Kazuchika Okada dropkick 20,Tetsuya Naito Destino 19, Private Party Gin & Juice 18, Kento Miyahara Shutdown suplex 15, Pac Black Arrow 13, Aleister Black Black mass 13, Young Bucks Meltzer Driver 13, Minoru Suzuki Gotch piledriver 12, Kenny Omega V trigger 12, Adam Page buckshot lariat 11 Most Disgusting Promotional Tactic 1 . WWE Continuing to do Business in Saudi Arabia 920 2. UFC/USADA handling of Jon Jones 21 3. ROH using Enzo & Cass at MSG without telling New Japan 19 4. WWE Mike & Maria Kanellis pregnancy angle 18 5. UFC using Greg Hardy 15 6. WWE using Roman Reigns’ cancer to draw a Raw rating 14 7. WWE counter programming AEW Fight for Fallen charity show 13 8. WWE Corey Graves tweet on Mauro Ranallo 12 9. WWE Erick Rowan attempted murder of Roman Reigns 11 Worst Television Show 1. WWE Raw 773 2. WWE Smackdown 224 3. Ring of Honor Wrestling 74 4. Impact 38 5. NWA Powerrr 14 Worst Match of the Year 1. The Fiend Bray Wyatt vs. Seth Rollins 10/6 Sacramento 756 2. Undertaker vs. Bill Goldberg 6/7 Jeddah, Saudi Arabia 215 3. Braun Strowman vs. Tyson Fury 10/31 Riyadh, Saudi Arabia 17 4. Dalys vs. Metalica 9/27 Mexico City 16 5. Bully Ray & Shane Taylor & Silas Young vs. Flip Gordon & Juice Robinson & Mark Haskins 4/6 New York 15 6. Shane McMahon vs. Roman Reigns 6/7 Jeddah, Saudi Arabia 12 Worst Feud of the Year 1. Seth Rollins vs. The Fiend Bray Wyatt 505 2. Rusev vs. Bobby Lashley 224 3. Roman Reigns vs. King Corbin 81 4. Seth Rollins vs. Baron Corbin 78 5. King Corbin vs. Shorty G 32 6. Seth Rollins & Becky Lynch vs. Baron Corbin & Lacey Evans 30 7. Shane McMahon vs. The Miz 20 8. Tetsuya Naito vs. Kota Ibushi 16 9. Becky Lynch vs. Lacey Evans 12 Worst Promotion of the Year 1. WWE 607 2. Ring of Honor 290 3. Impact Wrestling 68 4. CMLL 25 5. AAA 14 6. Progress 12 7. AEW 10 Best Booker 1. Gedo 1,027 2. Paul Levesque 66 3. Tony Khan 47 4. Sanshiro Takagi 14 5. Jun Akiyama 12 Promoter of the Year 1. Tony Khan 888 2. Harold Meij/Takaaki Kidani 194 3. Paul Levesque 66 4. Sanshiro Takagi 23 5. William Patrick Corgan 15 Best Gimmick 1. The Fiend Bray Wyatt 282 2. Chris Jericho 210 3. Orange Cassidy 200 4. MJF 91 5. Darby Allin 55 6. Jurassic Express 29 7. David Starr 29 8. The Question Mark 22 9. Adam Page 20 10. Pac 19 Honorable Mentions: Sammy Guevara 18, Kazuki Hirata 16, Minoru Suzuki 14, Becky Lynch 14, Daniel Bryan 13,Shooter Umino 13, Jay White 12, Adam Cole 12, Jon Moxley 12 Worst Gimmick 1. Shorty G 343 2. King Corbin 181 3.The Fiend Bray Wyatt 179 4. The Nightmare Collective 155 5. Dark Order 61 6. The Librarians 56 7. Seth Rollins 36 8. Bobby Lashley & Lana 32 9. Mike & Maria Kanellis 29 10. Lacey Evans 13 Best Pro-Wrestling Book 1. 100 Things A WWE Fan Should Know or Do Before They Die by Bryan Alvarez 240 2. Voices of Wrestling: NJPW Year in Review 2018 by Voices of Wrestling 32 3. Mayor Kane by Glenn Jacobs 26 4. The Storytellers by Greg Oliver and Steve Johnson 24 5. The Mid Atlantic Championship by Dick Bourne 20 6. Brute Power by Bugsy McGraw 17 7. Behind the Curtain by Jim Cornette 13 8. Japan: The Rikidozan Years by Haruo Yamaguchi 12 9. Strong Style by Scott Norton 11 Best Pro-Wrestling Documentary 1. Dark Side of the Ring 404* 2. Omega Man 66 3. The Wrestlers - Voodoo Wrestling in the Congo 32 4. Holy Grail: The Search for WWE’s Most Infamous Lost Match Bret Hart vs. Tom Magee 20 5. The Wrestlers - Craziest Wrestling in Japan 16 6. WWE 24: Kofi Kingston 14 7. AEW Countdown to Double or Nothing 11 *Most respondents wrote Dark Side of the Ring rather than a specified episode of the series but individuals that did mention a specific one, the Bruiser Brody, Von Erichs and Gino Hernandez were the ones mentioned most often Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Mar 6, 2020 |
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Congratulations to WWE sweeping all the Worst awards and Corey Graves winning the worst announcer !
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Already posted this in the AEW thread, but Tony Schiavone finishing top 3 for best announcer is so great. Also the coffin drop should've won best move. Also 
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Jerusalem posted:New Day 69 
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BIG E all setting up sockpuppet accounts, going around to people's houses and threatening them not to vote for New Day and gently caress up his perfect plans.
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Fiend/Seth won the worsts in a landslide, so I'm willing to say this is a completely agreeable awards edition
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Miho was robbed.
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Corbin with FOUR of the worst feuds of the year, which I also believe were his only feuds of the year. 
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Lovin' The Question Mark at number 8 of Best Gimmick
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Maigius posted:Pieter was robbed.
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What do the numbers in parenthesis mean?
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Impressive that Most Disgusting Promotional Tactic not only had a back-to-back winner, but a back to back runner-up: 2019 1. WWE CONTINUING TO DO BUSINESS IN SAUDI ARABIA 920 2. UFC/USADA handling of Jon Jones 21 2018 1. WWE BUSINESS TIES WITH SAUDI ARABIA 901 2. USADA handling of the Jon Jones case 97 These also seem to be the record holders for the biggest gaps between 1st and 2nd, though "WWE exploiting Reid Fleihr's death", "WWE exploiting Jerry Lawler's heart attack" and "WWE exploiting Eddie Guerrero's death" all were blowaway winners too. Also noteworthy, with his placement on both the Best/Worst Gimmicks of the year, The Fiend Bray Wyatt joins the following luminaries as placing on both lists in the same year: The Black Scorpion, Razor Ramon, Doink the Clown, Goldust, Disco Inferno, New World Order (x2), Kane, Sting, Dude Love, Degeneration X, Al Snow, Godfather, Curry Man, Kurt Angle, Stone Cold Steve Austin, The Hurricane, Charlie Hass, Santino, Zack Ryder, Joseph Park, Fandango, Mojo Rawley, Broken Hardyz, and Elias. Some of these surprised me for placing on the 'best' list, some for the 'worst'. My favorite was definitely Steve Austin, who in 2001 placed as: Best Gimmick #2 Steve Austin ("What") #4 Steve Austin (Paranoid Heel) Worst Gimmick #8 Steve Austin (Whiny Pussy) 2001 is also the year that DDP got #1 and #2 in the worst gimmick category, with "DDP Bob Patterson Gimmick" and "DDP Stalker" taking the two top slots. The only person to come close to that was 1999's #1 Worst Gimmick "That 70s Guy Mike Awesome" and #3 "Fat Chick Thriller Mike Awesome", who lost the two spot to The Dog by only six votes. Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Mar 6, 2020 |
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Edge & Christian posted:Impressive that Most Disgusting Promotional Tactic not only had a back-to-back winner, but a back to back runner-up: There have been only 3 non-WWE winners in the last 20 years. loving lmao
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Davros1 posted:What do the numbers in parenthesis mean? You get 3 votes a category () means how many first place votes So if i vote best move Dick flip Priscilla Kelly vag rub Kikotaru rear end fingering/smell my finger combo Dick flip would get a (1)
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Mar 6, 2020 04:53
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Yukaichiban posted:You get 3 votes a category Only for the category A awards.
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The best thing about the Roman vs Corbin feud is that hopefully the voters all remember that ti continued into this year and felt never ending so it can be nominated again!
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So AEW with wrestler of the year, top two tag teams of the year, top four promo guys, best weekly TV show, top two US/Canada MVPs, best box office draw, top two most charismatic guys, rookie of the year, best major wrestling show, and the promoter of the year. And for the stuff it didn't totally win, it got #2 promotion of the year behind NJPW, third best match of the year, second and third best feuds of the year, second best flyer, second best announcer. Not bad for a t-shirt company
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I’m glad for my boy Spicy Karl getting the #2 rookie spot, and not with a giant dropoff like many categories had  The one result I’m confused and mad about is Pieter getting more non-wrestler points than Miho. Miho is fuckin #1 non-wrestler in NJPW alongside maybe Red Shoes, what the gently caress
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extradite THIS! posted:I’m glad for my boy Spicy Karl getting the #2 rookie spot, and not with a giant dropoff like many categories had Yeah that one is really confusing unless people are just really really horny for her dance. Miho is a great character in her own right who isn't just there as window dressing for Taichi's gimmick. Umino beating Mox in the best gimmick is funny as hell.
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I appreciated OC getting votes for best non-wrestler
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What cowards voted Juice Robinson overrated?
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The Librarians, a gimmick designed to be a terrible gimmick that exists to generate Go Away Heat, still could not overcone The Nightmare Collective.
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Mar 6, 2020 11:03
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All top 5 worst major shows are WWE 
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I only just noticed the third best technical wrestler is apparently Will Ospreay.
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Jerusalem posted:Most Disgusting Promotional Tactic Wait what was this?
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Sandman McMahon posted:Wait what was this? He tried to run him over with a car on Smackdown last fall.
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I don't watch NJPW but other than that it pretty accurately reflects what I thought of the year
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mfcrocker posted:I don't watch NJPW but other than that it pretty accurately reflects what I thought of the year You should consider it. It's good. I'm just happy Kento got some votes because without him it's hard to imagine AJPW attendances staying even remotely the same as they are.
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Based on the votes it seems like exactly the same people voted for HHH as Best Booker and Best Promoter 
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Jerusalem posted:Based on the votes it seems like exactly the same people voted for HHH as Best Booker and Best Promoter Jerusalem posted:Based on the votes it seems like exactly the same people voted for HHH as Best Booker and Best Promoter How many active WWE wrestlers have a WON subscription and bother voting? Does old Trips not have enough stans within the company?
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Was looking at the list again and started laughing when I realized Velasquez is on the rookies list Dude had what, two matches? in Mexico and a shitass garbage blood money one.
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The AAA matches was good
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extradite THIS! posted:Was looking at the list again and started laughing when I realized Velasquez is on the rookies list He's really good for someone with 2 matches under his belt
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extradite THIS! posted:Was looking at the list again and started laughing when I realized Velasquez is on the rookies list He had two matches in AAA iirc, and if those were in a promotion someone paid attention to, he would have won.
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I see your point but to me it’s a lot like if you’d voted for Stephen Amell as rookie of the year for that shockingly good performance at Summerslam 2015.
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Yeah, I get what you’re saying too. Cain was pushed as a bigger draw than anyone else on that list and delivered, though. I’ll try to remember to link to those AAA matches, because they were astonishing at the time. I think Save compared it to how natural Angle was as a rookie, and it wasn’t completely off base.
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Jungle Boy winning best rookie when he's been wrestling since 2018 at least is funny imo
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KungFu Grip posted:Jungle Boy winning best rookie when he's been wrestling since 2018 at least is funny imo Not sure how it is funny because the award is for someone's first year full time in a major company. A baseball player who wins Rookie of the Year is in fact not in his first year playing professional baseball. Someone who is working a lot of matches on the indies will sometimes get votes, but someone who signs a contract for the first time and debuts before September is generally eligible. Cain's matches kicked rear end and he would have deserved ROY if he stayed in AAA. They didn't just kick rear end he showed notable improvement in his second match. MassRafTer fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Mar 6, 2020 |
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KungFu Grip posted:Jungle Boy winning best rookie when he's been wrestling since 2018 at least is funny imo Angle was in OVW for a fair while before his WWE debut, he won it too
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Nyla Rose, Kris Statlander, and Marko Stunt are people I'd consider a rookie too. It's kind of subjective, but I'd consider a rookie to be someone who's been wrestling 1-4 years and hasn't either been on top of a major indie, or hasn't had a debut in a major promotion. I guess it's also a fine line between "Breakout Year" and "Rookie of the Year"
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