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Which reason would you rather go down for, a billionaire pulling their funding to steal your mobile app or a global pandemic?
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I really don't understand why people are trying to frame this AAF vs XFL thing without taking the whole global pandemic thing into account.
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Apr 10, 2020 21:24
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Ehud posted:I really don't understand why people are trying to frame this AAF vs XFL thing without taking the whole global pandemic thing into account. Because people are searching for humor in these very bad days.
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Apr 10, 2020 21:34
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It’s funny seeing Vince fail.
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Apr 10, 2020 21:41
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This league was going down with or without the pandemic, the ratings and attendance made it very obvious that it was a non-starter. How many businessmen need to set their money on fire before they realize that the "demand" for spring football just ins't there?
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Apr 10, 2020 22:28
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The real XFL are the friends we made along the way.
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Apr 10, 2020 22:31
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Benne posted:This league was going down with or without the pandemic, the ratings and attendance made it very obvious that it was a non-starter. Vince was gonna fund it at a loss for at least another year though.
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Apr 10, 2020 22:50
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Vince was gonna fund it at a loss for at least another year though. And it would've kept flailing around as a non-entity and he wouldn't get that precious TV deal, which was the endgame all along. Between this, the AAF and countless others, there's an obvious trend of spring football. The first week gets decent ratings because they schedule it the week after the Super Bowl and people aren't quite ready to give up football yet. Once they realize that the quality of play isn't very good, and the experimental rules are a bit too wacky for their tastes, interest rapidly falls off. By the time the Combine and free agency starts everyone is talking about the NFL again, and that weird other league is buried on the backburner. Then March Madness and MLB and the NBA playoffs come around and you can forget it. Spring football is the fetch of sports. It ain't happening, and unless you like losing money you should stop trying to make it happen.
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Apr 10, 2020 22:59
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edit: it's already been posted
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Apr 10, 2020 23:04
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I think those people claiming that the XFL was always doomed to fail are talking out their rear end a bit. We absolutely don't know that and now we'll never get to find out. It had only JUST started to enter the cultural zeitgeist but it was definitely making an impression and I think it could well have succeeded. Not when you're still paying everyone but you can't even produce a product though
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Apr 11, 2020 00:16
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Its a minor league sport league, in a sport where there's already a second hugely popular league, in a country where there are no other second pro leagues or minor leagues on TV that aren't just extensions of the major league. Diehard football fans want more football. I get that. But they make the mistake of assuming that because the NFL and the Superbowl are so popular that everyone wants more football. The reality is that there's basically three kinds of fans of the NFL. The diehard football fans, the general sports fans, and the casual fans. The casual fans have no interest or probably aren't even aware of the XFL. The general sports fans might have had some curiosity about it and interest in watching it when nothing else was on, but if there's better quality sports happening they'll choose that generally. That basically leaves the fans who just want football over most everything else. And there's nothing wrong with that but there's also no evidence that there's enough of those people to support a new league. Maybe some day someone will discover the secret to a spring league. Maybe the XFL would have. But the odds were always against them and they weren't headed in the right direction before the pandemic.
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Apr 11, 2020 00:55
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If nothing else, the XFL had the best extra point rules. Kickoff rules were interesting for decreasing injuries, but a bit weird to see.
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Apr 11, 2020 01:32
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The Chiefs (Ta'amu) play the Panthers (P.J. Walker) this year (theoretically) if you want an XFL Champion.
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Apr 11, 2020 01:34
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:It’s funny seeing Vince fail.
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Apr 11, 2020 02:50
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:It’s funny seeing Vince fail.
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Apr 11, 2020 05:28
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I think a lot of the problems with spring football are that nobody wants to watch an 8 team league that plays 12 games a team, and probably doesn't have a team near them anyway (except canadians I guess). If the XFL and AAF were a single league with 16 teams I think there'd be a lot more interest nationally and a more interesting product. The other thing you need is simple, universal access to it. Like if you could watch every game streaming live on Prime, it might bring in enough views that you aren't even really relying on ticket sales.
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Apr 11, 2020 16:15
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The XFL cared more about the safety of their players than the NFL.
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Apr 11, 2020 17:42
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I feel it would have survived the year, and both ESPN and Fox would give it another shot next year. Maybe the NFL would have permitted players who finished the season on the practice squad to participate (which was a rumor going around). That would have bolstered it enough I feel to make it viable long term. The market was there, I felt. It was bigger than the naysayers wanna portray it was. The play itself was FCS level to the NFL's FBS. Was it bad? No. Was it good? Eh, had flashes, but I feel it was watchable at worst. It was football that was largely familiar, compared to CFL (which is familiar enough that you can watch and know most of what's happening, but there's minutiae that can get lost). As much as I hate Vince, I feel bad for the players and other staff.
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Apr 11, 2020 17:50
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The XFL is now an Ex-FL
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Apr 11, 2020 20:02
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iospace posted:I feel it would have survived the year, and both ESPN and Fox would give it another shot next year. Maybe the NFL would have permitted players who finished the season on the practice squad to participate (which was a rumor going around). That would have bolstered it enough I feel to make it viable long term. The market was there, I felt. It was bigger than the naysayers wanna portray it was. Yeah agreed. I guess I don't hate Vince enough since I've never been a wrestling guy and don't know much about him. I'm glad the players got the opportunity they did, and that so many were able to be signed by NFL teams, but I definitely wish it was coming back.
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Apr 11, 2020 23:14
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Which reason would you rather go down for, a billionaire pulling their funding to steal your mobile app or a global pandemic? I missed this part about the AAF
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Apr 12, 2020 01:31
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Yaya posted:The XFL is now an Ex-FL Mods please do the needful.
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Apr 12, 2020 01:56
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Getting hype for the XFL 3.0 in 2030! 
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Apr 12, 2020 20:33
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BGrifter posted:Getting hype for the XFL 3.0 in 2030! 2040. It runs on a 20 year cycle.
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Apr 12, 2020 20:47
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RIP XFL. I honestly enjoyed it and I'll miss it next spring, although TBH my viewership may have dropped off some around the end of March when the weather gets good and I want to do other poo poo on weekends. The real shame is that we're probably not going to see another alternative sports league of remotely close to this quality pop up for a long time. I really wish it had succeeded just because I feel like it would have been good for sports in general. I really do hope the NFL adopts some of the rules changes the XFL made. Especially, and I know drat well it'll never happen, but forcing transparency on the officials was the best thing the XFL did. NFL refs and their giant egos are the worst thing about the league, and now we've seen the perfect solution to it.
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Apr 12, 2020 21:22
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It just occurred to me there’s gonna be some pretty sweet merch available at clearance prices soon. I may have to spring for a Seattle Dragons jersey.
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Apr 12, 2020 21:22
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Despite the ratings dip everything I was told from people who work at the league is that they would almost certainly have done a 2nd season. And as of now even though the XFL is "Dead" its not out of the realm of possibility that they come back for a 2nd season. I realize this is very much "my uncle who works at Nintendo told me..." territory but as of now there is no plans for a 2nd season but literally nothing is off the table either. soggybagel fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Apr 13, 2020 |
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Apr 13, 2020 02:09
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Your friends who work at the league are literally off the table
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Apr 13, 2020 05:03
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it rules that some huge dumb asses who were clear-cut laid off got told "we're in wait and see mode" by cooked cowards and probably fully believe it. word is, there may be an opportunity down the line
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Apr 13, 2020 05:44
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it doesn't rule. it's a bad and evil thing to have done. I hope you understand me. plus i meant to say crooked and not cooked earlier on.
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Apr 13, 2020 06:04
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May the Orlando Apollos and St. Louis Battlehawks play many games together in Valhalla.
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Apr 13, 2020 06:10
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I think I sort of misspoke here. You’re right that everyone is laid off. No one is getting money anymore and the XFL is not planning anything for a 2nd season. So it’s dead. My nothing is off the table comment was meant more towards the idea that if somehow things are totally fine by the fall which I am not operating on the assumption it is, more that we would need some breakthrough on a vaccine then yes a 2nd season is still possible. That’s all. Cavauro posted:it rules that some huge dumb asses who were clear-cut laid off got told "we're in wait and see mode" by cooked cowards and probably fully believe it. word is, there may be an opportunity down the line It’s also not someone who’s some low hanging person either so don’t feel to bad. I texted Dean Blandino and asked him. That’s all. Also the reason the XFL title game was going to be held in Houston is because Vince’s mom lives there and he wanted her to be able to come to the championship game. She’s like 100 years old or something. soggybagel fucked around with this message at 09:24 on Apr 13, 2020 |
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Apr 13, 2020 09:11
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soggybagel posted:I think I sort of misspoke here. You’re right that everyone is laid off. No one is getting money anymore and the XFL is not planning anything for a 2nd season. So it’s dead. It probably boils down to how quickly people are willing to pack into a stadium together again. Personally I'm doubtful for that even by end of 2021.
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Apr 13, 2020 13:21
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https://twitter.com/eriqgardner/status/1249762174165278721?s=21
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Apr 13, 2020 19:19
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Still probably less of a financial loss than his wife’s political career.
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Apr 13, 2020 19:29
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Bankruptcy for corporations is a loving scam Vince can afford his debt MorrisBae fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Apr 13, 2020 |
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Apr 13, 2020 19:52
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https://twitter.com/AustinKarp/status/1249773447271657472
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Apr 13, 2020 20:09
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I bid one dollar.
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Apr 13, 2020 20:24
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I bid one dollar. I'll double you. Suck it.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:It’s funny seeing Vince fail. True, but I'm sad for all the players, coaches, etc who fully committed to the league to try to earn their way back/in to the NFL.
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