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I liked that the movie was about football and it was about prison, just two interesting concepts you don't often see in the same movie. It had a lot of excitement, a lot of laughs, and even some tears. I give it five bags of popcorn and one of those hats with bottles of beer attached to it.
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Oh hey, I figured everyone lost interest. Thanks for watching the movie and commenting about it, Hopkins FBI.
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Leperflesh posted:Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk? Didn’t Fiz have a role in this?
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I saw the original Longest Yard yesterday after barely remembering it and having an okay memory on the second. I did really think Burt Reynolds felt like a washed up athlete who didn't care anymore, Sandler's version is too much like his other roles to have that general apathy and "gently caress it" approach to everything. The actual football stuff was okay, but I don't think either version really focused on any real detail besides protecting the quarterback. The remake had more of individual players getting their one big play, when the original felt more like grinding out play by play. It wasn't the most amazing movie acting wise, but Caretaker's death in the original is kind of silly in how it's shot. There's a tiny fire on an extra's head, then the actor makes a really goofy face and suddenly the whole cell is ablaze. Some of the football stuff not in focus they don't sell the action well, but that's the only time it really throws you off and probably should have been done better.
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EDSBS/Banner Society already did this for 'The Program' like 8 years ago but it was phenomenal then and worth at least the read now. https://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2012/2/21/2814039/edsbs-film-club-the-program-act-1
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It's been a couple weeks and I guess we got another watcher, cool, do you guys wanna pick another football movie to watch? I had some family crisis poo poo to deal with (no not covid but that made the situation more difficult) but that's nearly dealt with and I could use some more football movies.
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Necessary Roughness
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I decided to watch Buffalo 66, on Amazon Prime. There is no football played in this movie. Instead, it's an offbeat 1 day Speed-dating movie, where Christina Ricci falls for the Nice Guy With Anxiety Issues. Who forcefully drags her out of her dance studio. The only real Football comes in the form of the Mr. Anxious dedicated Superfan Mom, and his mistake is betting money he didn't have to the Buffalo Bills vs Giants Superb Owl, went to prison to cover the debt, and now wants to kill Scott Norwood. Will he successfully kill Scott, or will Christina jump his bones? NOBODY KNOWS! Follow us in this romantic romp through one kid's shithole! I enjoyed this movie. Really captures the shithole that is being BOTH a Buffalo fan for-life, and being stuck in a shithole like Buffalo NY for life. Especially growing up during the Dioxin scare of 1970s Love Canal, right down the road from Buffalo! And then nthere was this wonderous place ! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pfohl_Brothers_Landfill defaultluser fucked around with this message at 06:01 on Apr 7, 2020 |
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ALright we're never gonna get through the list if we just watch one at a time, right? So now  We're watching Necessary Roughness and also Buffalo 66Buffalo 66 has several free and paid streaming options:  As does Necessary Roughness:  SPOILERS ARE NOW UNLOCKED for these movies Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Apr 7, 2020 |
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OK I watched Buffalo '66. Gosh. Summary Vincent Gallo directs a Vincent Gallo script starring Vincent Gallo in this Vincent Gallo vehicle. Vincent Gallo plays Billy Brown, an abrasive, unlikeable rear end in a top hat ex-con just out of prison, making his way around the frigid bleak city of Buffalo, New York. After wandering into a ballet studio looking for a restroom, he assaults and abducts Layla (Christina Ricci), who was briefly nice to him even though he was being a rude demanding prick. Despite being unreasonable, demanding, abusive, threatening, clearly unbalanced, and aggressively weird, Layla agrees to help him with his visit to his parents by pretending to be his wife. In the second act, we meet Billy's parents; a distant, uncaring father and an oblivious, idiot mother who is obsessed with watching the Buffalo Bills lose football games. Billy starts to look less like a monster and more like a pathetic victim; for the rest of the movie, he's constantly swinging between the two extremes of angry demanding rear end in a top hat and sniveling broken loser. Inexplicably, Layla falls in love with him, but he cannot accept or reciprocate her budding affection because he's both deeply mistrustful of women, and profoundly oversensitive about his body and being touched. Oh yeah, also the reason he went to jail is he made a $10k bet on the Bills to win the Super Bowl, didn't have the money he bet with, and his bookie demanded he take the fall for someone and go to jail, or else very bad unspecified things would happen to him and his family. We never learn why Billie made this bet, but he decides that because the Bills' kicker missed the game-winning field goal at the end, Billie's going to kill him on the basis he threw the game. Also Billy Brown is amazing at bowling. In the end, Billy nearly goes through with his murder/suicide, but Ricci's relentless affection and ample breasts finally convince him to accept her and that he has a future and life. He turns over a new leaf, sort of, the end. As a movie I found it bleak and depressing, but mostly because that's the intent. Layla's character is entirely undeveloped; by the end of the film, all we know about her is that she can tap dance, is a sponge for abuse, has a lot of self-confidence, and has fallen for Billy. Absolutely nothing about her background is ever presented, which maybe was the intent but I kept wishing for any nugget to explain or provide support for the character's actions. I thought the actual filmmaking was really good: the use of inset squares with photos and events covering the screen to transition into flashbacks was effective and interesting, and while weird, the interlude in the bowling alley where the spotlight suddenly shines on Layla while she does a little dance seemed important to the film's pacing, marking some sort of transition to the story and being indicative of Layla's mood. Like many such movies, I struggle with the redemption narrative, because it seems like the movie wants us to excuse every lovely thing Billy does on the basis of his bad upbringing and emotional struggles, which I find problematic. Vincent Gallo's acting is excellent, though, and combined with the moments of dark comedy strewn through the movie, I think on reflection that it was a decent film. Football Really the footballness of this movie is not in the playing of the game, but in the obsessions of its fans; and, of course, poking fun at the long and sordid history of the Buffalo Bills loving up everything always forever, as a grim reflection of the terrible city they play in. I can appreciate that. There's some fleeting views of past games on lovely old black and white TVs but they don't really matter except to show us that missed field goal. Final marks I give the movie a B. As a personal project, smallish-budget character-driven vehicle, it works well. The movie has something to say. There are some flaws, and it's probably not a film everyone would enjoy, but it's memorable and weird and worth watching. It's skirting the line of what constitutes a "football movie" but that's OK too. Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Apr 7, 2020 |
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If you like Vincent Gallo's work, I'm curious what you think of The Brown Bunny. That's the only film of his I saw & I didn't care for it. TBH I think he made that film just so he could film Chloë Sevigny blowing him at the end. 
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Android Apocalypse posted:If you like Vincent Gallo's work, I'm curious what you think of The Brown Bunny. That's the only film of his I saw & I didn't care for it. TBH I think he made that film just so he could film Chloë Sevigny blowing him at the end. Hard to hold that against him. Men have done far worse for far less.
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Wildcats (1986) Lucas (1986) All the Right Moves (1983)
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Chichevache posted:Hard to hold that against him. Men have done far worse for far less. I dunno, compared to most starlets I've never understood the allure 
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I watched Necesary Roughness Summary Scott Bacula missed his chance at college football when his father died and he took over the family farm. Now the local texas U's entire team and staff have been expelled/fired because of minor infractions that wouldn't even raise an eyebrow in the modern NCAA, the new coach's assistant has recruited him to go back to school so he can find out if he ever actually coulda made it. The dean hates football though, so any students who get bad grades can't play, and all the athletes have to be proper students. Consequently they field a team of 17 dudes playing Iron Man football. The scrappy lads lose a bunch of games, Scott Bacula has to learn how to be a leader while his hard-nosed coach just won't stop riding him for his team's fuckups. The evil bad guy rival team faces them in the final week, and they scrape out a victory because they've got heart and a good lady field goal kicker. As a movie I think this flick is commonly cited as emblematic of this particular genre of Sports Comedy Movie. It 100% cleaves to its formulaic premises, and does a decent job at delivering exactly what you expect. The likeable samoan center who is respectful gets the girl, the scrappy 35 year old quarterback makes the play, the struggling coach gets his win to prove that you can win college football while playing strictly by the rules, the evil dean gets his comeuppance, there's some gags, etc. etc. etc. Major detractions are the annoying solo booth announcement performance by Rob Schneider, who the director used as a narrator to explain the most basic situations of the game for an audience that I guess they figured just couldn't possibly understand things like "there's not much time on the clock now" or "they need to score more points to win now" kinda poo poo. Scott Bacula's performance was surprisingly OK for a guy I regard as an aggressively mediocre actor with zero range. There's a number of not very well resolved minor plot threads. The nice lady teacher that Scott Bacula is falling for has some moments where she needs to stand up to the dean, but that never seems to go anywhere, and in the end the dean is fired by the college president. The romance also wasn't very inspiring. All of the characters are assembled out of sports movie/comedy movie cliches. Nothing is unpredictable here. But all of that is fine really, this is a popcorn movie that you watch to turn your brain off, not to be challenged or surprised, and it delivers on that fine. Football Ehhhhh. There's a fair amount of actual football scenes, once we get past the training montages, but they're all filmed in such a way as to mostly show the action close up of the QB taking a snap and then getting plastered by the bad guy linebacker, or, the butterfingers reciever failing to catch the ball, or, OK time for a field goal to score, so we see that. Sometimes someone says "run such and such a route" and you can almost sorta follow that the WR is running that route. But the camara absolutely never pulls back to show an actual play being executed by the whole team. Also the fact that they're playing iron man never seems to materialize as anything other than "gosh we sure are tired now" - I can't recall a single case where a specific character is shown playing at a particular offense position, and then shown playing a particular defense position. We're pretty much just told over and over that it's happening. There's also not much in the way of interesting football plays; there's one "trick play" (just a PAT turned into a 2-point conversion). Compared to the single game of football we saw in The Longest yard, this film somehow manages to give us several more games and yet a lot less discernable footballing. On the other hand, we do get the footballness of college football; the locker room scenes, the dudes partying after the game, the training montage, the coaches discussing their coaching problems, the heartfealt speechifying about how the lads just really need to win this one so they can have the honor and glory etc. etc. etc. that you expect from a football movie about the college football. Final marks I waited a full day to type up this post because I couldn't decide on a grade, and I still can't really decide. I kinda want to give it a D, because it's so uninspired and predictable; but I also kinda want to give it a B, because it executes pretty well given the baseline lack of ambition. So let's go with a C, which coulda been a B if they'd left Rob Schneider out, or had a single original joke, or hired actors who knew how to play football well enough to actually show a whole play from a zoomed out camera from snap to whistle.
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Smiling Mandrill posted:Wildcats (1986) added.
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The saving grace of Necessary Roughness is apex Kathy Ireland. Her acting here was definitely better than in Alien From L.A.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdGGW5SvF40 The MST3K episode of this is still aces.
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And , after watching Buffalo 66, the Kicker Assassination Attempt reminded me of the most ludicrous and over the-top football movie Ive ever seen: Ace Ventura: Pet Detective. Definitely belongs on the list. For having Dan Marino kidnapped in the middle of his Isotoner Gloves commercial, and for Ace Ventura checking out the balls of the entire Dolphins 1984 Superb Owl team. defaultluser fucked around with this message at 04:21 on Apr 10, 2020 |
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she only had like... ten lines in the whole movie? Her character is just earnest and open, that's about it. I guess I'll add Ace Ventura: Pet Detective
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Leperflesh posted:she only had like... ten lines in the whole movie? Her character is just earnest and open, that's about it. Yeah, I just watched it. She's nothing special in the movie. What makes her stand out more than other players is how she is the turning point in the story, and symbolizes throwing all conventions into the trash bin (along with Samuari kicks, called correctly on-field by the ref.) I give it a B. I think it was a well-structured formulaic comedy. The SMU Death Penalty was still fresh news, and they made it feel like the Southwest Conference (in the early 90s, the only football team that survived the Death Penalty was the Aggies - it was some pretty crappy football down at UT Austin, where I grew up) I also don't hate Rob Snyder - in limited doses, he's fine.. defaultluser fucked around with this message at 07:06 on Apr 10, 2020 |
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Buffalo 66 is a terrible film whose existence reminds me that not every worthless navel gazer in film school will be punished. It is the filmic equivalent of every lovely white male great american novel and except somehow sleazier and more underdeveloped. I watched it with my roommate who, in hindsight, was probably just trying to justify an un simulated blowjob being art in a different way than pornography. Barudak fucked around with this message at 09:21 on Apr 11, 2020 |
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Barudak posted:Buffalo 66 is a terrible film whose existence reminds me that not every worthless navel gazer in film school will be punished. It is the filmic equivalent of every lovely white male great american novel and except somehow sleazier and more underdeveloped. are you confusing Buffalo 66 with Brown Bunny or does Buffalo 66 also end with an unsimulated blowjob
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Alaois posted:are you confusing Buffalo 66 with Brown Bunny or does Buffalo 66 also end with an unsimulated blowjob No, my roommate was like "Everyones talking about Vincet Gallo, I should watch all his films, here lets start with Buffalo 66" like somebody buying a stack of regular magazines and wedging a porno in there at the end like nobody will notice
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Barudak posted:No, my roommate was like "Everyones talking about Vincet Gallo, I should watch all his films, here lets start with Buffalo 66" like somebody buying a stack of regular magazines and wedging a porno in there at the end like nobody will notice lmao that rules
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