Kchama posted:The whole 'Dark Gods from another universe and also the mysterious data-being that can only manifest in select ways and don't give a poo poo about the laws of physics' deal still reminds me a lot of the Festum from Fafnir, who can come and attack more directly but it's also their only way of interacting with the universe at first - their physical forms are the result of the people's perception who first saw them, as they read minds effortlessly. And they can do such things as create a black hole-like wormhole in space and time to teleport around and also just plain make people stop existing. They can connect to anyone's minds who answers their psychic question "Are you there?", which most people do without even realizing it. See, it's interesting, because that's what my brain basically tells me the 'dark gods' are, that idea of something/s that can't quite figure out our universe and are mostly destructive without intention. This is basically what Chapter 47 will state, I think, and similar to what Holden basically describes as an immune response a few chapters ago. But then, I don't know how much that links to Tiamat's Wrath stuff with the game theory bit and the idea that they've been trying to tit-or-tat us, or even this novel where they're loving with ionic bonds and getting confused. It could be that my brain is trying to stitch together something that feels like it makes more sense. There's a part of me that really struggles with things like 'they can disrupt the speed of light', 'they can turn off consciousness', 'they can gently caress with ionic bonds', 'they're viewing our universe from the outside and rattling our windows' and 'they get confused when a ship goes through a gate and they think their physics-busting powers don't work on monkeys.' Before the last novel came out, I remember a theory where it was basically that the Builders had ascended to being 'above' our material reality/substrate whereas the Dark Gods were beings who were 'below' the substrate. The idea was somewhat similar, that the Builder tech is disruptive to them in ways that maybe the Builders could never conceive or were so far removed from that they didn't really care. I think the idea was some kind of quantum-scale lifeform or something? But when we're getting into "they're incomprehensible aliens from another incomprehensible universe" and/or "the dark gods are the other universe", I feel the story is getting so abstruse that it's hard remain engaged with it. To such an extent that, like, "the dark gods are the reality-breaking psychic remnants of all the dead species the Builders wiped out, and they want to be put to rest but can't destroy the infrastructure that houses them" feels like it'd make more sense, be more palatable, and fit with ideas the series raised.
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Milkfred E. Moore posted:To such an extent that, like, "the dark gods are the reality-breaking psychic remnants of all the dead species the Builders wiped out, and they want to be put to rest but can't destroy the infrastructure that houses them" feels like it'd make more sense, be more palatable, and fit with ideas the series raised. This was my theory years and years ago about what was happening with the Goths; PriorMarcus posted:Does anyone have any theories on the goths?
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PriorMarcus posted:This was my theory years and years ago about what was happening with the Goths; That is actually a much better idea of what I was vaguely thinking about, haha. It also indicates something that I think is a bad misfire in the ending of Falls which is that the last chapter is Naomi and Jim when it feels like it should be Miller and Holden.
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