UKMT April 2020 - The Betacoronavirus and the Virgin Atlantic

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Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Gonzo McFee posted:

https://twitter.com/George_Osborne/status/1245359671952781313

lol labour is hosed.

And this is why I'll shortly be leaving labour

# ¿ Apr 2, 2020 11:48

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# ¿ May 14, 2024 14:45

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Josef bugman posted:

It's why I still believe in electoralism

Think that's the difference between us bman

# ¿ Apr 2, 2020 12:05

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Jose posted:

that was just rumours from 1 times journalist

do you seriously not think that even if that particular factoid isn't true that Starmer's Labour isn't going to be right wing

# ¿ Apr 2, 2020 12:13

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Wachter posted:

Working from home is causing extreme time dilation. I can't remember what day of the week it is, and all of a sudden it's loving April

This is good. Usually I'm really, really paranoid and anxious about time slipping inevitably away from me but this is the one time that I'm like 'yup, delete the next couple of months please'

OwlFancier posted:

It doesn't matter whether you believe in electoralism as long as a lot of other people do. Saying you don't believe in it is like saying you don't believe in money.

This is just semantic quibbling

Barry Foster fucked around with this message at 12:29 on Apr 2, 2020

# ¿ Apr 2, 2020 12:26

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

I think there're different ideas about how to manage time (as previously noted I have serious problems with my relationship to time and how anxious it makes me) but I think we can all agree that Factory Time sucks poo poo and is a horrible capitalist intrusion into workers' lives and no-one should be trying to force themselves to live a WFH 9 to 5, surely

# ¿ Apr 2, 2020 14:01

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Guavanaut posted:

Everyone thinks they destroyed their late teens/early 20s, whether it's by working too hard, partying too hard, staying in too hard.

CoolCab posted:

I've never seen much harm in wasting time, what else are we good for

OwlFancier posted:

I mean I guess I could have lived like that and been happier about it but that's not because of living like that it was just depression, having got a bit of a handle on that I'm 100% fine living like that and if I had an ideal it'd be to graduate to slightly more grown up toys like machine tools and house renovation.

yup yup yup

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CoolCab posted:

yeah to be totally honest thus far the isolation is really reinforcing how far I've come since those dark days. I'm doing nothing and adoring it instead of wallowing in misery and fear.

but then, nothing comforts me quite like everyone else being as visually distressed and anxious as I generally am.

thus far quarentine has owned tbh

lol yup

# ¿ Apr 2, 2020 14:21

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

justcola posted:

One issue I do have is I absolutely caned films and music when I was younger and now everything seems kind of boring and done before. I've ended up at the fringe of media, watching vlogs on YouTube with less than 10 views, comedy films from Africa shot on phones, field recordings of empty buildings. Even this is getting tedious though. Is all that there is left is...anime?

Yeah I feel that - plus also various humanities degrees mean I can't actually enjoy media now, I just internally criticise it

Don't go anime, though. There's no coming back from that

# ¿ Apr 2, 2020 15:35

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

ThomasPaine posted:

I'm 99% sure that certain people itt are furiously masturbating as they breathlessly insist that COVID will go on until 2023 and kill ten million people in the UK alone

Given that the pessimists have been right every time with this thing so far maybe it's time to listen to them

# ¿ Apr 2, 2020 16:28

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

dispatch_async posted:

https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1245735155978952704

I've said it before and I'll say it again: abolish the BBC

fucken unreal

# ¿ Apr 2, 2020 17:17

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Comrade Fakename posted:

Depends on your mood, really.

Enough of one brings me to the other

hell that's the whole point

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

What a disgusting poo poo bag. Glad I left Labour last weekend:

https://twitter.com/coyleneil/status/1245615554397736960?s=20

(And no, I haven't read his wretched article).

man, today was my two-to-three-day 'stick your head above the parapet' day, and I really wish I hadn't bothered. All it's done is frighten me, frustrate me, and make me literally sweat with fury

and nothing else

# ¿ Apr 2, 2020 18:17

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Red Oktober posted:

Johnson's worth over �3.1m according to an article The loving Sun published a loving week ago. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3760519/prime-minister-boris-johnson-age-net-worth-full-name/

Fucks sake.

He's a oval office too, what's your point?

Azza Bamboo posted:

I voted Kier.

I think it's time we put idealism to bed and actually set our sights on the public. My greatest hopes for this party is to now bait and switch the same way the Tories always do. To front ourselves as centrist and sensible as much as possible in order to roll that Trojan horse through an election.

It's possible that I'm the one being deceived and the horse is full of blairites but I'd take that over years of continuing the trash fire that has been honest attempts at socialism.

After all this time in this thread, how could you possibly be so naive?

You Are Being Deceived.

# ¿ Apr 4, 2020 11:04

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

^^^^^^^^^^^ has this actually happened? If so then I'm literally going to go cancel my membership right now

Jel Shaker posted:

The Novara guys made the good point that kier can be quite inclusive, and I�m sure that he�s aware that a huge percentage of labour were attached to corbins ideas

So he will pay lip service to them while not pursuing them and in fact pursuing the exact opposite.

You are being Democrat-ed. You are being Biden-ed.

# ¿ Apr 4, 2020 11:08

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Keir Starmer is the Joe Biden of Labour and I will not support him.

# ¿ Apr 4, 2020 11:11

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

forkboy84 posted:

You can be angry when ever you want to chief. Not sure why "a bunch of Corbyn supporters are gullible idiots who just voted for the centrist candidate" is meant to be consolation to me though.

The Labour Left have officially given up. 2 electoral defeats & we've handed the reins back to the Labour right. Who will be utterly ruthless in ensuring that the Labour left won't ever get a shot at the leadership again.

Looking forward to Keir running to the right of Boris on austerity, that'll win votes.

Yup.

peanut- posted:

All of this seems pretty good.

Joe Biden is out there saying he'd veto universal healthcare, Starmer is publicly committing to pledges to nationalise major industries. He served loyally in Corbyn's cabinet. Why are people so convinced he's a dyed in the wool neoliberal?

His personal history? What he's said he's going to do (ignore that fluff, treat it as the PR it is)?

# ¿ Apr 4, 2020 11:15

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Prism Mirror Lens posted:

Hooray the man who sent out campaign posters with a big photo of his face and the word �AUTHORITY� has won, i love a bit of fascism me. I guess I�ll keep my membership as long as he can keep up the pretence of giving a poo poo about left-wing policies.

These are pretty contradictory sentences.

# ¿ Apr 4, 2020 11:28

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Azza Bamboo posted:

A lot of tears itt. Also "if you're not with me then you're against me" thinking.

Yeah, no poo poo. This isn't the burn you think it is

'if you're not against neoliberalism, you're against me' is the only sane response in these times. You are a leaf on the loving wind. No integrity.

# ¿ Apr 4, 2020 11:35

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Gorn Myson posted:

Yeah they're unnecessary because we knew this was going to happen for quite some time and you can cushion the pain by knowing just how badly Starmer and Labour are going to get completely monstered by the press and the Tories.

We're basically just back at the point we were up until 5 years ago, where we'd begrudgingly vote for Labour because the Tories were far worse but we'd be loving stupid to make that vote anymore.

Yeah. I'm never voting again tbh

# ¿ Apr 4, 2020 11:44

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Azza Bamboo posted:

You seem sure that anyone who isn't Corbyns legacy is a Blairite like it's a binary switch in every Labour politician.

It loving well is, you blind loving moron

# ¿ Apr 4, 2020 12:05

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

I will say this much, between this shitshow and biden i've finally had the impetus to go full communo-anarchist

I genuinely think the world's in the palliative care stage now. Nothing good is ever going to come of the establishment. Our new job is to take care of people wherever we can, making life at least a little less miserable for as many people as possible, fully outside the sphere of electoral politics. We can't save the world, but maybe we can make it 0.07% less lovely

# ¿ Apr 4, 2020 12:07

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Paperhouse posted:

Probably wait for the next manifesto before making this kind of declaration?

This has been a decade in the making, this was just the final straw

# ¿ Apr 4, 2020 12:15

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Gasmask posted:

No I�m pointing out that you lot talk like you have a mandate of heaven to speak on behalf of the ~true labour movement~ and yet when your position is put to the test it�s consistently shown not to be what party members want. You�re all so used to treating everyone else as an enemy.

We're a true leftist movement, not a true labour movement

Anyone loyal to a party because they're loyal to a party doesn't have principles, they have a football team

The labour party no longer represents my views, and actively works against them. They are our enemy. Why the gently caress would we still support them?

Starmer and the rest of them at least realise that you don't win by being nice, you win by shanking those who opposed you. Corbynism's biggest mistake was applying 'kinder, gentler politics' to politicians, when it should have been reserved solely for the vulnerable of society

we took the moral highground and it hosed us

# ¿ Apr 4, 2020 12:18

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Gasmask posted:

I�m a true Scotsman though

No honestly

It�s me

The true Scotsman

What I said had nothing to do with No True Scotsman

# ¿ Apr 4, 2020 12:24

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Gasmask posted:

Grr everyone is a dummy. Big dumb melty Torres everywhere. Why is everyone so else so dumb? Why am I the only true smart leftist? Sigh woe is me.

The fact that you thought this was a smart thing to say says everything

gently caress off out of the thread, you've said your lovely piece

# ¿ Apr 4, 2020 12:28

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Endjinneer posted:

https://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/trashing.htm

Whatever the tories think about Starmer as leader of the opposition, I'm sure they are quaking in their boots at the idea of every left winger in the UK turning on each other in a giant bloodbath of ideological purity until, like a crap Communist Highlander, only one remains.

They absolutely, definitely want us to piece ourselves together after the years of real and manufactured schisms that have beset our party, seek common ground and make the best of what we've got. So that's the last thing we should do.

We're not turning on each other, we're turning on the liberals lol

# ¿ Apr 4, 2020 12:40

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Coohoolin posted:

I for one am glad that I can now stop pretending to care about Labour and treat them just like the Democrats.

Yeah, it's a weird kind of relief in its way

Also, Azza, I think you've made a terrible mistake and I hope you come to recognise that's the case, but if I have stepped over the line into cruelty then I apologise. It's not good for either of our insides

# ¿ Apr 4, 2020 12:55

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Lightningproof posted:

Well lads after 5 heady years the Labour Party is back to being shithouse again. Get involved in local non-electoral politics imo. gently caress em.

# ¿ Apr 4, 2020 13:05

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Debbie Does Dagon posted:

Well what an absolute loving letdown. I've been pretty checked out of politics since the election disappointment. I guess things can always get worse

Hope will always let you down, courage is where it's at. This -

endlessmonotony posted:

Labour is dead in the water because people who want a right-winger will just vote Tories no matter how much you triangulate, and the public has little to no reason to trust Labour to implement any leftist ideals effectively and they've been justified in that for twenty years. You don't advance left wing causes by voting, that's not how it's ever worked. You take action so people know and trust you before an election ever takes place, and Labour as a whole... hasn't.

is about the best response

stev posted:

Seriously did all of the Corbynites in the party actually vote for Keir? Have they just collectively given up?

Apparently

# ¿ Apr 4, 2020 13:18

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Jose posted:

nice to see you're still around

in other good news i just made an excellent bacon and egg sandwich and absolutely recommend the enconca carolina reaper sauce. by far the nicest of their main sauces and no hotter than them

Yeah, how're you doing Jabby, man? Your life must be loving difficult right now

# ¿ Apr 4, 2020 13:18

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

I was literally followed around by the loving pigs yesterday. I was nowhere near anyone and nor were the three other people they hassled on their way towards me

luckily I found a wall to hide behind while they were distracted until they went away again and then I went and sat back down and kept drinking lol

# ¿ Apr 6, 2020 14:27

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

This really is the world's shittiest dystopia, I swear this weekend finished me off

I'd keep drinking but I'm out of booze except maybe a bit of gin somewhere and half a can of cider I didn't finish last night but my god it makes me feel physically poo poo now that i'm old

# ¿ Apr 6, 2020 14:30

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

peanut- posted:

Are people still getting post delivered generally? I've had nothing since Wednesday and am expecting things that I know have been sent.

Not at all and I've been really pissed off about it. I'm glad that it's not just me though because I've been geuinely convinced the postie is stealing from me

# ¿ Apr 6, 2020 14:36

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

mfcrocker posted:

Could people take me out of the OP for Labour contacts? I resigned my membership this afternoon after Keir appointed a transphobe to the NEC.

Have considered doing this a number of times during Corbyn's tenure but this was the final nail in my faith that transphobia was going to be dealt with in the party. It's loving everywhere and Labour isn't safe for LGBT+ people to be in.

Oh yeah, me too

# ¿ Apr 6, 2020 15:43

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

marshmonkey posted:

https://twitter.com/FT/status/1247164419144024064

lol

# ¿ Apr 6, 2020 16:04

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

yet

# ¿ Apr 6, 2020 16:25

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

jabby posted:

If Starmer had said he was abandoning Corbyn's policies and also scrapping the one-man-one-vote system for electing the leader, I could understand quitting.

But as of yet the only thing that's happened is a change of personnel. Has it occurred that some of the performative right-wing crowing on Twitter about Corbyn's demise is intended to demoralise the left and encourage it to abandon Labour? We're still a very powerful voice within the party, especially given a large new intake of MPs and the number of old-guard right who purged themselves.

EDIT: Momentum aren't giving up on Labour, neither is Corbyn and neither am I.
https://twitter.com/PeoplesMomentum/status/1247191095051718659

I sincerely hope you're right, good luck with it

# ¿ Apr 6, 2020 17:14

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Boris Johnson died with coronavirus

He died of hubris

# ¿ Apr 7, 2020 08:03

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

TACD posted:

If he doesn�t die he�s going to be untouchable. Even the mildest criticism of his plan to murder orphan babies in their sleep will be attacked as a scurrilous smear of Brave Boris the Survivor who bested Death himself in his dedication to Queen and country, gawd bless �im.

He's already loving untouchable

Living will make him a hero, death will make him a martyr

# ¿ Apr 7, 2020 08:38

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

What will a persistent vegetative state do? Maybe there's still hope

Who would be able to tell?

# ¿ Apr 7, 2020 08:45

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Gonzo McFee posted:

Dead men don't stand for PM.

Given that just means we get another of this shower of fucks as PM instead what's the functional difference, y'know?

Still, sic semper moronis and all that. I'm trying not to gloat because it's bad for my insides, but I'm already pre-emptively screaming at all the people in my life who are going to be furious at me for not Appropriately Mourning For Our Brave Boris

EDIT drat it's been awhile since I've had to do a history snype 82 BC Vercingetorix was born, I chose him cause he has a funny asterix name

# ¿ Apr 7, 2020 08:57

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# ¿ May 14, 2024 14:45

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Wizard Master posted:

There is a 8pm �clap for Boris� thing tonight doing the rounds on social media - I wonder if people will leave politics aside and go for this ? I�m not his biggest fan but given the alternatives and what he�s done since he�s been PM, he gets my support at this time of ill health.

Right now in this global situation countries need their leaders to do exactly that, lead.

If anyone on my street claps I am going to spit at them from my window

# ¿ Apr 7, 2020 10:04

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