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Just beat it. Well, that was certainly an ending. So...Zack jumped the rails on his scheduled Crisis Core death, and we are presumably left with the fallout of where the hell he's been from the end of that game and this one, and how being Not Dead somehow did not interrupt Cloud getting to where he is right now in life. Or did it? My head
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The Hojo thing was honestly hilarious. The ghosts spend so much time making sure people die as they should, and then they carry Hojo off like "Oh you idiot, you're gonna get yourself killed"
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Apr 16, 2020 19:21
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FF12 travel makes the most sense. You are open roaming the world map, except the world is a bigger corridor than usual.
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Apr 16, 2020 20:15
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The general idea (as I took it) was that Sephiroth was baiting the party into killing Destiny. So he stabs Barret and goes "Alright, so save him then, hero."
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Apr 16, 2020 20:18
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Well, Tseng might or might not have kicked out of the Stone Cold Masamune, but that whole scene in the original was very confusing
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Apr 16, 2020 20:30
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Honestly now that it was brought up, Sephiroth going "Dang, I really messed up killing you, Aerith" and then stabbing Tifa *feels* like a Sephiroth thing to do
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Apr 16, 2020 20:40
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Marle even has Marle's hairstyle, if she got old and stopped giving a poo poo about it
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Apr 16, 2020 21:55
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They'll put the original Final Fantasy 7 in as a Gold Saucer game. Sephiroth will hover over your shoulder the entire time. "Oh, you died to Carry Armor again. That's just like you....Cloud."
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Apr 16, 2020 22:15
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Hojo getting rescued by the Dementors makes me realize he's almost certainly smart enough to cotton to what happened, and that he'd probably be very amused by abusing it. Rubrum: We gotta go, Hojo's throwing himself off the tower. Viridi: Again!?
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Apr 16, 2020 22:46
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There is one track in the game I frigging adored, it plays when you get to the end of the High Flyers combat sim mission. I don't know what the name of it is, but man, it made me want to punch everything in the face
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Apr 16, 2020 23:08
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If anything, it's pretty interesting that the one glaring failure of the Whispers is that they *tried* to kill Wedge, but apparently he was Just Too Thicc for a cinderblock falling on him from the sky to do it. Unless they got him on the second effort, the game very much leaves that up in the air.
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Apr 16, 2020 23:30
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You get to Chocobo Racing, Joe is replaced by Roche on his bike
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Apr 16, 2020 23:41
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Flopsy posted:We get a wedding sequence at the end of the game and both Roche and Roche's bike wear wedding dresses.
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Apr 16, 2020 23:47
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I really just want a great big dive into how much Zack surviving changes the cast's personality. Like, if he actually made it to Midgar dragging Cloud along, that should fundamentally change *everything*. Cloud can't exactly go into a delusional Zack cosplay if Zack is still there. Tifa can't cover up that cosplay with her denial until it ultimately bites everyone in the rear end and Cloud helps summon Meteor in a psychotic fit. I presume he would have gone to see Aerith, so *she* doesn't have as much reason to string Cloud along like she did. I halfway suspect something else will happen to Zack before any of this, because the ramifications are...yikes
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Apr 16, 2020 23:59
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They very subtly foreshadowed that some kind of death balancing act needs to take place with Tseng's conversation with Reno. Paraphrasing, "Maybe the plate falling was the planet demanding a blood sacrifice for all the blood we leeched from it." "You serious?" "Am I?"
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Apr 17, 2020 00:36
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If it makes you feel better, it looks like the party killed the personification of Destiny so hard that it retconned Zack's destiny way back before any of this mess. So they probably won't be dealing with any more ghosts. Probably
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Apr 17, 2020 01:15
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Y'know, it never made a ton of sense just *why* Cloud was so insistent on fighting Rufus one on one, at least in the original game. "Barret, go! This is the real battle for the planet!" Okay, so kill Rufus with your army of a terrorist, a local florist and a labratdog. At least here it was fairly clear that if Cloud didn't do it this way, the ghosts would quickly be there to go "Oh yes you are"
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Apr 17, 2020 03:08
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Well, individually they weren't much. Reno could be counter Punished to death, Rude was hilariously vulnerable to the Nail Bat. They got much tougher as a team
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Apr 17, 2020 09:15
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Costa Del Sol was such a great setpiece, mainly for the timing. You just get off of that haunted boat where Jenova killed a bunch of people, and then suddenly it's Barret being a teddy bear wearing a marshmallow and kids kicking a ball at Red. I will be very sad if all that doesn't make it back.
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Apr 17, 2020 12:03
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Incidentally I glanced at the Aerith death scene on Youtube, and...yup, that is approximately seven seconds from the time Sephiroth rafter leaps and Aerith gets stabbed.
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Apr 17, 2020 18:31
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Me, I'm kind of entertained by the idea that it was only destiny holding Zack back from taking out 50 Shinra goons and a few missile launching helicopters. Of course he did. Actually it even fits the context of Crisis Core. As I remember, the last "boss" in that game was waves and waves of goons. If you beat those, the helicopters turned up to go "gently caress you, blow up" DeathChicken fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Apr 17, 2020 |
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Apr 17, 2020 18:55
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Thinking it over, the whole Seven Seconds thing is definitely the time it took Sephiroth to kill Aerith in the original scene. I imagine with that foreknowledge, Cloud would be compelled to try a heroic save there. Which in all likelihood *would* get him killed instead. That would certainly be a thing to close a hypothetical second game on.
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Apr 17, 2020 22:16
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Would it? As I recall, she finished the Holy summon anyway before getting killed. It just didn't work because Sephiroth was still in the Lifestream blocking it up.
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Apr 17, 2020 22:39
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That would be kind of awesome if Sephiroth did a "Save the girl or save the world, Cloud!" thing, Cloud saved the girl, and then everyone else spends the game giving him dirty looks
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Apr 17, 2020 23:07
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Guy does something terribly stupid, then the next time you meet him he's your best friend and pretends it never happened. That might be the most realistic thing in this game.
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Apr 18, 2020 04:51
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Really, what would have Zack done with Cloud's comatose rear end? He's too much of a good guy to just leave him somewhere.
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Apr 18, 2020 18:56
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Poor girl lives in a slum all her life, and this version is apparently aware that the one time she goes outside she's gonna get killed
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Apr 18, 2020 22:53
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Replaying this on Hard and it's kind of funny just picturing how the narrative would have ran if the Plot Ghosts weren't there to make everyone behave themselves. Like Cloud would have split Reno like a watermelon very early on, which I imagine probably would have thrown off the plate drop a little. Or at least turned the fight there into the party versus Tseng and Rude.
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Apr 19, 2020 08:03
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Tifa and Aerith are straight up Giggly Girls with each other from their first scene
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Apr 19, 2020 21:36
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The scene after the plate collapse where he more or less tells Cloud "I'm asking very nicely that you lie to me and say things are okay" was great
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Apr 19, 2020 22:33
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I...thought he meant it's a pretty bathroom and the slums bathrooms aren't nearly as fancy, but who knows
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Apr 20, 2020 10:50
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I mean I thought it became glaringly obvious there were Destiny shenanigans at play as soon as Wedge jumped the rails on his scheduled horrible death, then the ghosts showed up to try and Final Destination him
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Apr 20, 2020 23:29
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You probably want to be at 50 for Bahamut. Which you'll end up at in a real hurry if you clear a couple chapters in Hard
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Apr 20, 2020 23:34
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There's the Bahamut fight that gets you his summon, then he turns up again in Chadley's final VR challenge. I have yet to beat that one, mainly due to Ifrit pushing everyone's poo poo in while I'm frantically trying to deal with Bahamut
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Apr 20, 2020 23:42
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Sephiroth killing Aerith was his biggest bungle in the OG story. He ostensibly thought he was doing it to prevent her from casting Holy, and it turns out shunting her off to the Lifestream was actually necessary to even make Holy work. Best guess is he's trying to get Cloud to save her this time, and as a consequence, Meteor can't be disintegrated quite so easily.
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Apr 21, 2020 01:13
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:It's not like Shinra told them they need to get to the pillar and push this button. They knew exactly what they were doing and did it anyways. gently caress em both. Yeah, ultimately it doesn't matter if Reno was handwringing over killing 10,000 people and Rude was all "Killing 10,000 people is my job", end of the day it's *real* hard to reel them back after that poo poo. Particularly Rude
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Apr 21, 2020 02:03
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Admittedly it was a funny moment playing the last battle and having Aerith drop a Thundega on Sephiroth's head. Over the last 20 years, she kind of became the videogame poster child for a Woman Stuffed in a Fridge
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Apr 21, 2020 02:16
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I loved her completely breaking Rude's tough guy act over her knee. Rude: Go home! Aerith: You know I can't do that, right? Rude: Bluh guh wuh? Bluh
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Apr 21, 2020 12:39
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As I recall the group was *going* to kill him on that beach, until he basically went "Oh what, you're just going to chop up an unarmed man on a public beach? That will go well for you"
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I was mainly confused that Shinra chose to go "Okay, we'll just roll with the take where Hojo tells us to gently caress ourselves, why not". They could have put up an Out of Order sign like some of the other exhibits.
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