Welcome to the CSPAM thread on Inverted Totalitarianism, informally known as American Fascism! This is some hosed up poo poo. Note: For full multimedia experience, please play this song as you read. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzQ3yjpYZis I decided to make this thread after reading this post in D&D because I see the bold in one form or another in political discussions throughout life without people labeling it directly: Shady Amish Terror posted:The incredible level of atomization and isolation that Americans face, in particular, is one of the biggest obstacles to collective action. People often feel uninvolved, disconnected, and self-concerned to a fault; they do not trust their neighbors, because they have been given no reason to. We have been propagandized for decades with the message that we must be self-sufficient, responsible adults, and the way you measure that is in wealth, and that in that regard you are, at best, in competition with your neighbor. Building alternative power requires a lot of people to do small, inglorious, nearly-invisible work. Organize your apartment block. Get a progressive elected to your city council. Get YOURSELF elected to your city council. Start a garden. Each small action isn't just some isolated action, it's an absolutely necessary step to reforming how we think about ourselves as a society.
Inverted Totalitarianism draws its power from relentlessly promoting an extreme form of rugged individualism upon the population as eloquently defined in Shady Amish Terror’s post I quoted (and bolded) above. It fundamentally relies on an atomized, alienated society distrusting one another down to an individualist level. This brutal system of exploitative, rugged individualist greed is producing both anti-liberal rightwing and leftwing populist movements around the country and the Western World as a reaction against it. The illiberal expressions on the right are taking the form of belligerent Christian/White Nationalism, while the ostensible ‘leftwing’ expression has increasingly shown support for socialism and the question of capitalism altogether. In 2016 America, the rightwing version succeeded after the leftwing version was successfully blocked (now add 2020 to the latter, too!). Inverted Totalitarianism is the ideology of neoliberalism administered in application by corporate and financial monopolies (truth is subservient to profit), which makes it fascist. “Late-stage neoliberalism!” I guess if you have to explain this in simple terms to dumb people (liberals) why this ideology is fascist, then - in any tone you like - tell them to swap/replace the violent white supremacist ideology at the heart of nazi totalitarianism with money, and imagine that in practice, relatively speaking. If we’re being objectionable, then America is the longest and most successful modern fascist country in history. It was literally founded by a group of slaveowners who did not want to pay taxes to the British Empire, and thus started a war over it. White supremacy (slavery/free labor/anti-labor) was/is used to justify it. Fascism was always at the heart of the American experiment (remember, only white landowners could vote at the beginning). It’s what we’ve always done. Fascism has always been in our DNA. Two decades after the horrors of nazi fascism were well saturated in the modern world, Dr. MLK and the USSR’s international blackmail campaign of labeling America’s white supremacy as the logical successor to nazism eventually forced the white rentier class to ostensibly give equal rights to African Americans under the law before installing the “Great Society” programs. The GOP has been doing its best to undermine both with no opposition on economics from liberals ever since, and boom, here we are! The2020JoeBidenCampaign.jpg Wolin writes: quote:Inverted totalitarianism reverses things. It is all politics all of the time but a politics largely untempered by the political. Party squabbles are occasionally on public display, and there is a frantic and continuous politics among factions of the party, interest groups, competing corporate powers, and rival media concerns. And there is, of course, the culminating moment of national elections when the attention of the nation is required to make a choice of personalities rather than a choice between alternatives. What is absent is the political, the commitment to finding where the common good lies amidst the welter of well-financed, highly organized, single-minded interests rabidly seeking governmental favors and overwhelming the practices of representative government and public administration by a sea of cash. some more praxis quotes for marxist undergrads: quote:"Fascism is not a form of state power "standing above both classes -- the proletariat and the bourgeoisie," as Otto Bauer, for instance, has asserted. It is not "the revolt of the petty bourgeoisie which has captured the machinery of the state," as the British Socialist Brailsford declares. No, fascism is not a power standing above class, nor government of the petty bourgeoisie or the lumpen-proletariat over finance capital. Fascism is the power of finance capital itself. It is the organization of terrorist vengeance against the working class and the revolutionary section of the peasantry and intelligentsia. In foreign policy, fascism is jingoism in its most brutal form, fomenting bestial hatred of other nations.... The development of fascism, and the fascist dictatorship itself, assume different forms in different countries, according to historical, social and economic conditions and to the national peculiarities, and the international position of the given country." - Georgi Dimitrov quote:The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism — ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. - FDR quote:“If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. - Thomas Jefferson quote:So, no “Swastika.” I said, “Okay… Pretty As A Dollar Sign,” because that’s their fascism now. There’s nothing more fascist now than money. Everyone knows that. - Marilyn Manson America is trying to force inverted totalitarianism upon the entire globe: A relatively good illustration of American inverted totalitarianism in practice is seen in the Blade Runner films, particularly the sequel. So I personally think nothing can stop this and its big brother Trumpism except for full Marxism-Leninism, especially Maoism (love to hear other theories), but who knows - I’m just a shitposter. All discussions about the history of fascism and how to undermine it - especially in America - are welcome ITT. AntiFascist artworks depicting life under inverted totalitarianism are valued here as well. P.S. How was your Easter, C-SPAM?
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# ? Apr 14, 2020 02:17 |
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# ? May 9, 2024 02:47 |
Oh, and gently caress Joe Biden.
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# ? Apr 14, 2020 02:20 |
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send the NeoConfederacy to the urn
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# ? Apr 14, 2020 02:34 |
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"Late stage neoliberalism" is definitely going in my wheelhouse of vernacular
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# ? Apr 14, 2020 02:47 |
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the perfect companion to sadopopulism
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# ? Apr 14, 2020 03:26 |
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Oh poo poo? I always knew something was up
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# ? Apr 14, 2020 03:50 |
Genuinely believe this is the first step: https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_03.htm quote:We stand for active ideological struggle because it is the weapon for ensuring unity within the Party and the revolutionary organizations in the interest of our fight. Every Communist and revolutionary should take up this weapon.
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# ? Apr 14, 2020 03:54 |
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A4R8 posted:
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# ? Apr 14, 2020 04:01 |
No One Should Want a Return to Normalcy https://gen.medium.com/no-one-should-want-a-return-to-normalcy-a1091120d7d8 quote:Republicans are poisoning the world online, and Democrats are busy telling you that What’s Happening Online Isn’t Real. It’s a perfect formula for rendering your voice worthless
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# ? Apr 14, 2020 16:06 |
I forget which goon made this, but it is so good and relevant:
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# ? Apr 14, 2020 23:36 |
When the administrators of inverted totalitarianism can no longer privatize the gains and socialize their losses.
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# ? Apr 15, 2020 21:50 |
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To get out of this people need to Get Into BA
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# ? Apr 15, 2020 22:30 |
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Maoism is a middle aged man giggling at weed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bahRhwpnM8
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# ? Apr 15, 2020 23:03 |
quote:Immanuel Kant coined the term “radical evil.” It was the privileging of one’s own interest over that of others, effectively reducing those around you to objects to be manipulated and used for your own ends. But Hannah Arendt, who also used the term “radical evil,” saw that it was worse than merely treating others as objects. Radical evil, she wrote, rendered vast numbers of people superfluous. They possessed no value at all. They were, once they could not be utilized by the powerful, discarded as human refuse. FULL: https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-age-of-radical-evil/
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# ? Apr 16, 2020 20:12 |
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does anyone remember the name of the interviewer in this video? I keep thinking it's Bill Mitchell but I know that's not right lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzB4LZXl9_Q
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# ? May 8, 2020 18:37 |
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i'll have a little marx-leninism *and* a little maoism thank you very much
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# ? May 8, 2020 20:41 |
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Continuity RCP posted:Maoism is a middle aged man giggling at weed thats a nice watch
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# ? May 8, 2020 20:48 |
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Impkins Patootie posted:thats a nice watch Got to have something to console yourself in your self-imposed Parisian exile
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# ? May 8, 2020 20:52 |
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huxley nailed what the dictatorship of the Future would like. decadence not repression is the model. drink, drug, porn, trinkets, all to your heart's content. slurp it up you dumb hog. down that brewskie while indifferently jacking off to that HD nut shot. what the hell it's only your life that's ending one minute at a time here. meantime we're gonna make you work until you die so you can fund our private island and climate change bunker.
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gh0stpinballa posted:huxley nailed what the dictatorship of the Future would like. decadence not repression is the model. drink, drug, porn, trinkets, all to your heart's content. slurp it up you dumb hog. down that brewskie while indifferently jacking off to that HD nut shot. what the hell it's only your life that's ending one minute at a time here. meantime we're gonna make you work until you die so you can fund our private island and climate change bunker. Indeed, the only things people should be doing are reading theory and exercising for the physical requirements of violent revolution. Anything else, including video games, movies, pornography, and drugs and alcohol are counterrevolutionary and indulging in any of them should make you feel bad.
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gh0stpinballa posted:huxley nailed what the dictatorship of the Future would like. decadence not repression is the model. drink, drug, porn, trinkets, all to your heart's content. slurp it up you dumb hog. down that brewskie while indifferently jacking off to that HD nut shot. what the hell it's only your life that's ending one minute at a time here. meantime we're gonna make you work until you die so you can fund our private island and climate change bunker. It’s a mixture of Brave New World and 1984 - of course America borrows the worst of both worlds! How long until we open the camps for homeless people, communists, and enemies of capitalism altogether similar to this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_re-education_camps
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# ? May 9, 2020 18:33 |
splifyphus posted:why is it 'inverted'? i mean, lol if you haven't figured out that both fascist and communist totalitarianisms were just pale imitations of the originary totalitarianism of capital Liberalism is capitalism during the periods when it is able to keep its internal contradictions in check, relatively speaking. Fascism is what you call it when it can't. It’s called inverted totalitarianism in this case because it is fascism posing as liberal individualism.
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# ? May 9, 2020 18:42 |
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"Money is my god. I worship money." —Spaceghostpurpp, Been Fweago, 2011 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beOR7pmRH_8
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# ? May 9, 2020 18:56 |
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I think a lot about the only rapper to ever actually just say it.
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gh0stpinballa posted:huxley nailed what the dictatorship of the Future would like. decadence not repression is the model. drink, drug, porn, trinkets, all to your heart's content. slurp it up you dumb hog. down that brewskie while indifferently jacking off to that HD nut shot. what the hell it's only your life that's ending one minute at a time here. meantime we're gonna make you work until you die so you can fund our private island and climate change bunker. Huxley was criticizing the welfare state and the decline of communitarian ideas. We don’t really have that kind of totalitarianism because we don’t make even token gestures toward meeting people’s basic needs and make casual sex and drug use as dangerous as possible so that people die or have their lives destroyed in easily preventable ways. America is designed to torture and kill huge numbers of people and to make hedonism prohibitively expensive. Tv is designed to upset you at least as much as it calms you down. Huxley’s dictator was tasked with creating a stable system that could run indefinitely. We definitely don’t have that same goal operating at any level.
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# ? May 9, 2020 18:57 |
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Fleetwood posted:does anyone remember the name of the interviewer in this video? I keep thinking it's Bill Mitchell but I know that's not right lol Bill Moyers! poo poo, it takes me a while but I get there eventually
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# ? May 9, 2020 20:05 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKbEaZ-Jnws https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsOMEUamYkc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgZ5k2n8k4s
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# ? May 9, 2020 23:14 |
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LA Review of Books had an article in 2016 that really fits into this thread https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/the-supermanagerial-reich/ this sample gives a good example of how Nazi rule resembled "late stage capitalism" quote:Behemoth: The Political Economy of Nazism Radio War Nerd had an ep where Ames explained the early alliance between Italian fascists and liberals https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6f0XT6yS7M also what's with this A4R8 posted:Its a mixture of Brave New World and 1984 - of course America borrows the worst of both worlds! The US has the largest prison system in the world already, which disproportionately locks up people from oppressed groups. People inside are dying of COVID-19 because they are packed close together and lack even normal hygienic products like soap. I don't think I've even seen anything about prisoners getting extra PPE. There are still political prisoners inside from the liberation struggles of the 1960s and 70s.
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# ? May 9, 2020 23:34 |
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Without equal enforcement of laws, all prisoners are political prisoners.
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# ? May 14, 2020 10:21 |
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not to take away from the powerful tankie energy of this thread, but i just finished reading psychopolitics by byung-chul han and it's a pretty good dissection of why these phenomena (atomization, the individual as an entrepreneurial subject, dissolution of the collective community, etc) are a direct, intended effect of post-industrial capitalism and how 'classical' marxism is largely unequipped to address them. i would strongly recommend it if you're interested in these topics
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# ? May 14, 2020 10:47 |
Inverted fascist media is under siege tonight!
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# ? May 30, 2020 01:56 |
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# ? May 9, 2024 02:47 |
https://twitter.com/ac360/status/1266534277208031233?s=21 Cornel West on CNN tonight: “We are witnessing America as a failed social experiment.” “The system cannot reform itself.” E; fixed link. A4R8 has issued a correction as of 02:22 on May 30, 2020 |
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