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Commodore just wasn't a good episode. I say this as someone who went into it with an entirely open mind about it. Exactly two moments in the episode work: the twist in the middle and the very last shot.
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It's hard to completely dislike the Commodore episode though. So many funny scenes, like Columbo yelling over the sounds at the dock, even if the overall structure didn't work and the the final reveal was weak. https://i.imgur.com/swz4wvf.mp4
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commodore is one of the best episodes: falk is high on painkillers the entire time and everyone's trying to improv around him while sticking to what existed of the script. then there's him attempting to drive if you missed any of that in the episode then you need to rewatch it
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Mar 8, 2023 13:12
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Takes No Damage posted:Started a series rewatch and picked up a couple of Columbo watch-along podcasts to listen to. Several of them mention the origins of the character, which began in an episode of The Chevy Mystery Show called 'Enough Rope' from 1960 which was remade into Prescription: Murder 8 years later. I wasn't having any luck tracking down a copy from any source until I stumbled across a Mega link at the bottom of this r/columbo thread. Thanks for this - I'd been trying to find it for years. I knew UCLA had a copy but never managed to track it town online. It's amazing! And also terrible! Large chunks of the script are identical to Prescription: Murder, but it's considerably shorter and the ending is completely different. The sets are made entirely out of wobbly cardboard and the acting and video quality combine to make it look like a daytime soap opera shot live, complete with a few line flubs (including one where I swear Columbo calls the suspect 'Columbo'). No idea if it was actually done live but it sure seems that way. Worth a watch for historic reasons and now I'm rewatching Prescription: Murder. I'm pretty sure the credit sequence cost more than the whole of 'Enough Rope'.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Commodore just wasn't a good episode. I say this as someone who went into it with an entirely open mind about it. Exactly two moments in the episode work: the twist in the middle and the very last shot. I think the episode does what it’s trying to do well, but most of the time it’s not clear why anyone would want it to do that. My three biggest non-spoiler memories of my first watch (and only, so far): wondering why they decided Columbo should suddenly be so handsy; thinking the yelling at the dock scene worked extremely well and was clearly a microcosm for the whole episode, but that it was still frustrating to experience; feeling at the end of the episode that it felt like it had taken an indeterminate but long amount of time to watch, maybe as much as three hours. If you love plays that alienate their own audiences, I expect you’d find more to love about Last Salute. Or if you think of the main purpose as being to troll Columbo fans.
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Mar 8, 2023 22:05
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Unkempt posted:Thanks for this - I'd been trying to find it for years. I knew UCLA had a copy but never managed to track it town online. It's amazing! And also terrible! Large chunks of the script are identical to Prescription: Murder, but it's considerably shorter and the ending is completely different. The sets are made entirely out of wobbly cardboard and the acting and video quality combine to make it look like a daytime soap opera shot live, complete with a few line flubs (including one where I swear Columbo calls the suspect 'Columbo'). No idea if it was actually done live but it sure seems that way. Worth a watch for historic reasons and now I'm rewatching Prescription: Murder. I'm pretty sure the credit sequence cost more than the whole of 'Enough Rope'. It was definitely shot 'live' soap opera style. In one of the waiting room scenes when Columbo is talking to the secretary he accidentally calls himself Doctor Columbo  And yeah the ending just kind of happens, but no way could they have afforded a swimming pool set so I guess pinning it all on the luggage weight discrepancy was the next best thing.e: Doctor Columbo is in. https://i.imgur.com/39f5NdT.mp4 Takes No Damage fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Mar 9, 2023 |
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https://twitter.com/kinolorber/status/1633850527506112512?s=46&t=wNf75G2WiIjbMjBMYW-m7Q Thanks to Gen Z for re-discovering the show.
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Mar 10, 2023 00:03
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VERY NICE Sounds like the plan is to split the show into 'up to 70s' and 'after'. If they don't call the first set Sorry To Bother You and the second one Just One More Thing I swear to god
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Mar 10, 2023 01:11
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Good timing, since the latest season of Columbo (Poker Face) just ended!
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Jerusalem posted:Good timing, since the latest season of Columbo (Poker Face) just ended! I want to make a joke about Lyonne and Falk having the same voice without sounding mean and I don't think I'm smart enough to do so.
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Mar 10, 2023 02:21
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Best thing Peacock does is it starts playing Columbo S1E1 after the Poker Face finale. Honestly PF feels like a very expensive and elaborate marketing ploy to get more people into Columbo.
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Mar 10, 2023 05:36
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Thank you Covid-19 and Poker Face for making columbo popular again
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I think you can draw a pretty easy line from Daniel Ortberg to Covid to Poker Face, yeah.
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I'd catch the occasional Columbo rerun when I was a kid in the 90s, but never really watched it. Then there was a marathon over New Year's so I recorded a few. Now I'm just watching random episodes. I don't know how I went so long without ever really watching this show. I used to love reading Sherlock Holmes stories and whodunit mysteries, but now I realize I actually like the howcatchem format better. Holmes is a prick, but Lt. Columbo is a consummate gentleman. I'm loving the similarities to Poker Face. The only thing bad about watching Columbo is that I'll eventually run out of episodes. Also, if I had superpowers/infinity stones/etc., I would resurrect Donald Pleasance to do a prequel about his winery. His performance was just magical. 
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The only Columbo ending I really didn't like was where he used his implied mob connections to get a confessions out of the murderer of the week, so that he would arrest him instead of walking away, and provide safety because "the mob knew". "I told the mob who I suspected and then forced a confession out of a man who knew he was going to get killed the moment I left him alone". Yeah, try to make that one stick at the courthouse. Columbo solved jack poo poo evidence-wise, he used the mob to get a confession out of the guy who would in that scenario confess to being Jack the Ripper for a police escort out of the building. He just happened to guess right that time. Der Kyhe fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Mar 10, 2023 |
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Mar 10, 2023 21:40
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A lot of the episodes kind of fall apart under modern scrutiny but, uh, the 70s had different standards of law.
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Mar 10, 2023 23:55
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In the 70s it was perfectly acceptable for the investigating officer to crack a hard boiled egg against the murder weapon
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Posted this in the Poker Face thread already but I still keep thinking of the moment when the murdersr declines to be handcuffed and instead reaches into his shady murderer coat to pull out .. a lighter. He lights up a cig and hops in a random police car and nobody moves or says anything about it. I'm sure the history of progression from casually smokin in the back of a cop car without being cuffed or searched or beaten or killed, to today's hellscape when looking at a cop is like playing Russian roulette... Is very frustrating and paved with bad intentions hijacking kernals of good intentions.
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To be fair, the murderers in Columbo are usually exceptionally wealthy or powerful/influential people so that kind of indulgence probably remained consistent through the decades.
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Takes No Damage posted:Commodore is a pretty divisive episode, it messes with the regular formula some and a lot of people don't like it. Interested to hear how you think it stacks up to the rest of the season. I was not really feeling it, I liked seeing Dennis Dugan and it was good having Robert Vaughn back, but I never got into the mystery much and everything seemed off-kilter. however now reading this post, Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:commodore is one of the best episodes: falk is high on painkillers the entire time and everyone's trying to improv around him while sticking to what existed of the script. then there's him attempting to drive think I may loop around for a re-watch of it at some point and see how this new knowledge changes how I take in that off-kilter-ness now the Shatner episode to kick off season 6, that was pretty rad
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I always just assumed that Falk was drunk off his rear end in Commodore. Though I guess he could both be drunk and also medicated.
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I just got the pun in Any Old Port in a Storm. I kept wondering what desperate source of relief or shelter the title referred to. It didn't seem to fit, you know...
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SimonChris posted:I just got the pun in Any Old Port in a Storm. I kept wondering what desperate source of relief or shelter the title referred to. It didn't seem to fit, you know... most of the plot is Columbo trying to figure out if it rained that day or not
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:most of the plot is Columbo trying to figure out if it rained that day or not Columbo literally uses an old port wine to catch the murderer.
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SimonChris posted:Columbo literally uses an old port wine to catch the murderer. Spoilers for several episodes following: While Columbo is marketed as a howcatchem where the mystery is how Columbo will catch the murderer this is one of several episodes where the title spoils the way Columbo catches the murderer. Others like this are By Dawns Early Light where the murderer saw something only briefly visible at dawn and Negative Reaction where Columbo uses a negative print to trick the murderer into revealing he did it in front of witnesses. Literally caught by his reaction to a negative.
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Columbo titles are usually significant in more than one way. It's quite clever.
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The one that always sticks with me is Forgotten Lady
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Since I've picked up where I left off in the revival episodes, I gotta say that Murder in Malibu really, really fails hard. It tries to do a variation on the Last Salute to the Commodore twist in the middle but fouls it up to the point that I still don't believe the actual murderer was the murderer, which is kind of a problem for a show about a murder. In fact the whole episode feels like the production team accidentally filmed the rough draft of the story by mistake.
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I've stalled out on my latest full rewatch attempt (again) but there are still a handful of 2nd wave Columbo episodes I haven't seen yet. I know they're uneven as hell but the competitionist in me won't let them go. Unrelated https://twitter.com/GetGianni/status/1541848396658532353
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Takes No Damage posted:I've stalled out on my latest full rewatch attempt (again) but there are still a handful of 2nd wave Columbo episodes I haven't seen yet. I know they're uneven as hell but the competitionist in me won't let them go. this is how my watch is going, it's my first watch of the show but I'm also currently stopped on episode 2 of season 7, about halfway through and I've started and stopped it twice, losing interest in finishing it both times and wandering off to do other things. things definitely do not feel as warm and lovely and delightful as the first 6 seasons even if it's still a fine show
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Season 7 episode 2 is the one where Columbo just gets fed by every man in LA, gets in an Italian argument with the victims nephew and also it’s only like an hour long. It’s an excellent episode. Episode 3s really good too and has some great ACTING!! scenes in it from the suspect. Now if you’re talking episode 4 or even 5 I get it
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:Season 7 episode 2 is the one where Columbo just gets fed by every man in LA, gets in an Italian argument with the victims nephew and also it’s only like an hour long. It’s an excellent episode. https://i.imgur.com/voP4e1L.mp4 https://i.imgur.com/qzl4Co5.mp4 
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Aye Doc posted:this is how my watch is going, it's my first watch of the show but I'm also currently stopped on episode 2 of season 7, about halfway through and I've started and stopped it twice, losing interest in finishing it both times and wandering off to do other things. things definitely do not feel as warm and lovely and delightful as the first 6 seasons even if it's still a fine show Trying to get things kicked up again, but so far only a couple of episodes in S2 are real standouts for me, particularly eps 2 and 6 (with killer Spock !!). Ep 2 is a weird one because the murder doesn't happen until half way in, but I like it because it's one of the few that Columbo solves with pure forensic evidence rather than just annoying the murderer into inadvertently confessing somehow. Unrelated: https://twitter.com/bovibaee/status/1523079870187593730 e: Season 2 rewatch complete. More consistent than the first; only a few standouts for me (Greenhouse Jungle and Stitch in Crime) but no total stinkers either. Requiem was a weird one, I don't think they'd figured out how to do female murderers very well yet. e2: Season 3 off to a rough start, already found a continuity error SMDH: https://i.imgur.com/BdkjlMO.mp4 e3: Just finishing up 303: Candidate for Crime. I really liked this one, we see a lot more of Columbo sleuthing around than in previous stories. Usually he just pops up every few scenes with new evidence to gently caress with the murderer, but in this one we actually follow him around as he's figuring things out. They skip over a bit at the end so he can still do his 'the killer is in this room' speech but otherwise it's a lot more forensic than what we've seen before. e4: Timmy, run down to the Cigarette Department and grab momma a pack of Camels. 
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Columbo displaying his expert foot-combing investigative technique.   
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 First annual Columbo Thread GoonCon location scouted! LifeSunDeath posted:
e:  https://i.imgur.com/mK6ZiQV.mp4 
Takes No Damage fucked around with this message at 04:03 on May 5, 2023 |
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May 4, 2023 08:31
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This is the Columbo content I crave! That statue is rad too.
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I'm not going to try to justify posting this one, it's just nice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu3yOU1csOg
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Something I only picked up on during my rewatch for the Cash ep: he really screwed himself over by committing the crime in a way that only a professional parachute rigger could have  I've also been loosely following my rewatch with episodes from this podcast, they usually do a decent job of covering everything that happens and adding some decent discussion/analysis: https://columbopodcast.com/ e: I see what you did there you sneaky fuckin' writers: https://i.imgur.com/G0QNqm3.mp4 Takes No Damage fucked around with this message at 04:22 on May 11, 2023 |
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FYI it seems the entire series is on Tubi: https://tubitv.com/series/300006728/columbo Wow having only a few episodes per season really lets you plow through things, I was already up to The Commodore  I tried to pay closer attention and give it an honest 2nd shot, some live watch notes: -The cuts are already weird and jumpy, and every commercial break just slams to a black screen. -Big chunk of the opening is a direct rip of Requiem for a Fallen Star, impersonating someone on a boat to make it look like they're still alive. -Oh yeah Falk is high as gently caress in this The second he shows up he's doing everything half speed. Before Falk was an actor he was in the merchant marines, maybe he thought he could just sleepwalk through a boat-based episode?- them clowncaring into Columbo's little French thing. First time we see it with the top down I think.-Loving this scene with people screaming dialogue at each other over industrial shipyard noises. -Watch Columbo try to cross his legs for 2 minutes  -Out there on the dock playing Daily Jumble with those stencils. -This final 'gather in the drawing room' scene is torture. -Rows off into the sunset  Still probably the most experimental episode I've seen. Definitely won't ever be a favorite, but if you're in a patient mood it isn't complete garbage the way I once thought.
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