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be sure to take this as well: https://rightvaluestest.github.io/ I'm a boring Geo-Libertarian, but it's possible someone might get the coveted "Homofascist" designation   
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May 7, 2020 00:40
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LGD posted:be sure to take this as well: I'm the constitutional momarchy. (I got anarcho primitivist) Also what how is georgism right wing??? OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 00:49 on May 7, 2020 |
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May 7, 2020 00:46
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LGD posted:be sure to take this as well: That was easy. https://rightvaluestest.github.io/results.html?a=100.0&b=100.0&c=77.8&d=80.0&e=0.0&f=0.0&g=16.7
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May 7, 2020 00:52
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OwlFancier posted:
it isn't, but its not incompatible with a right-wing outlook/has had right-wing proponents tbh I'd be more concerned about some of those buck-wild axes -> "Peace vs. Morality"
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May 7, 2020 00:57
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LGD posted:
lol this owns
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May 7, 2020 01:07
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Oh yeah and why is it "pro alliances" like, you can't have moral alliances? Or peace without alliances?
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May 7, 2020 01:25
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This is the axis of ideologies for the rightvalues quiz. Socdems are on the right, I agree. E: if you're on the Awful app, do "open URL" don't open as a image. Here's the same image copied onto imgur: 
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May 7, 2020 01:41
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These positions for ideologies are totally pulled out of someone's rear end.
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May 7, 2020 01:55
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Anarchofascism. That's a good one
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May 7, 2020 02:08
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Got Democratic Socialist. Yeah this isn't anything new to me.
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May 7, 2020 02:10
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 Am I... A tankie?
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May 7, 2020 02:17
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forkboy84 posted:Anarchofascism. That's a good one The only way I can figure it is like, really belligerent racist anarchists? Like voluntarily organizing to do white supremacism on the municipal scale or something 
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May 7, 2020 02:19
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Purple Prince posted:
a cuban fighting in angola
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May 7, 2020 02:28
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Now as for my RightValues results: Technocrat sounds about right.
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May 7, 2020 02:51
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I got technocrat as well. Shut the gently caress up and let the experts run things you swine. Centrist Marxist for the other one. Doesn’t seem to be much logic to it though, it says centrist marxists don’t take a position between reform and revolution, but my results clearly showed one favored over the other.
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May 7, 2020 08:36
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 Not that surprised really.
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May 7, 2020 09:45
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I also got Technocracy. Kind of makes sense, we need smart people to guide us into an automated workforce owned by the workers, to reduce working hours to the point where some of us don't have to work at all. Also, the dirty secret behind conservative values has been revealed: 
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May 7, 2020 20:13
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Freakazoid_ posted:I also got Technocracy. Kind of makes sense, we need smart people to guide us into an automated workforce owned by the workers, to reduce working hours to the point where some of us don't have to work at all. Oedipus Rex rears his ugly head.
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May 8, 2020 00:40
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Making a rightist values quiz to go with your leftist quiz and then filling it with spelling and grammar errors is some amateur-rear end satire. Except I guess it's real? I'm still right. I'm also a Georgist technocrat council communist. The people making Hogwarts jokes are both correct and loving boring. Shut up and take the buzzfeed.
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May 8, 2020 02:18
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Anarcho-Transhumanists are just the Omar from Deus Ex Invisible War: https://youtu.be/u8GmNRRw7aI
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Pegged me as Soc Dem which is spot on so I guess it's not a totally poo poo quiz. The right value quiz was so poorly made and had so many questions contradicting themselves I'm not sure it is any use to anyone but here's that as well. 
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May 9, 2020 09:03
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May 9, 2020 09:41
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 The planet's dyin, Cloud I think one of the problems this quiz has is it doesn't make much of a distinction between ideological questions now and ideological questions later. Like, I'm not hugely super keen on political parties in a future socialist society, I'm not even much keen on a large overarching state, but we have political parties right now and I'd rather they be successful than fail miserably. Anyways, according to the Right-wing test I'm apparently an Anarcho-Primitivist Technocrat which is...interesting.
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May 9, 2020 10:39
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Quiz's like this are so dependant on definitons: "It is necessary to establish a dictatorship of the proletariat as a transitionary stage between capitalism and socialism." If this is the leninist line then gently caress right off with that poo poo, ... but if it''s Kerensky style worker co-ops and enhanced democratic control of the means of production it is a very different question.  Centrist Marxism, based on: Left-Wing Nationalism: 78.2% Social Democracy: 74.7% Orthodox Marxism: 63.2% Basically Olof Palme. surprised i got 50% marxist-leninist though, I guess thats for my less internationalist leanings. Postorder Trollet89 fucked around with this message at 11:32 on May 9, 2020 |
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May 9, 2020 11:01
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LeftValues: "Centrist Marxism" which is probably prompted by the vast amounts of neutral/unsure answers I gave to questions I feel go over my head. Yet the definition says that the paramount indecisive issue is revolution vs reform, where I'm 70.6% reform and taking violence off the table is one of the only things I take strong stances on. I would have not bothered posting at all except that RightValues thinks I'm more an advocate for a state-run economy than most everyone here:  Apparently I'm more of a Republican's idea of what socialists are like more than an actual socialist, which is kinda accurate. I want money redistributed to a work-optional society who benefits from most of the labor being automated so they can spend their time on Earth doing what they want to do rather than what is demanded of them, but when you start talking about old European philosophers or positively using imagery associated with the USSR then I leave the chat. Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 12:09 on May 9, 2020 |
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May 9, 2020 12:04
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Unsurprisingly, Democratic Socialism https://leftvalues.github.io/results.html?a=25.0&b=66.2&c=21.7&d=53.6&e=46.2&f=12.5&g=30.9
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Postorder Trollet89 posted:Quiz's like this are so dependant on definitons: "Some small scale destruction of nature is acceptable if it notably benefits humanity." What is small scale destruction? Building a house? lighting a fire? Killing a animal?
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Postorder Trollet89 posted:Quiz's like this are so dependant on definitons: Certainly there is a lot of disagreement about what a DOTP is supposed to be. Marx and Engels themselves used the Paris Commune as an example of a DOTP. The commune was a democratic workers' state. The USSR was... not quite that. There was democratic management of workplaces in Lenin and Stalin's time - workers could vote to remove their bosses for instance. However, the larger governmental structure was built around the idea that the common people lacked class consciousness and needed a vanguard party to lead them and indoctrinate class consciousness into them before they could have democratic control of the state. Regardless of what people think of Stalin's intentions, this idea failed in the USSR, as Khrushchev and later on had no real intent in ceding power to the workers, even crushing an attempt at doing so in Czechoslovakia, and workers became disengaged from the political process leading to eventual uprising and collapse of the USSR. Certainly MLs could point to different examples, maybe Cuba or Burkino Faso under Sankara. But the ML paradigm is not without criticism. That being said, the democratic socialism model is not without criticism either, it keeps getting overthrown by foreign and bourgeoise powers as was the case with Allende and Evo and maybe eventually Maduro. Does the average worker lack class consciousness today, particularly in America? Yes. Is the revolutionary vanguard party model the best way to unite workers in this country? Probably not. E: Not Hungary, Czechslovakia I'm dumb America Inc. fucked around with this message at 19:16 on May 12, 2020 |
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May 12, 2020 18:41
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Looks like I am an eco-anarchist. And 0% Leninist, which I do like. https://leftvalues.github.io/results.html?a=64.7&b=58.8&c=26.7&d=71.4&e=32.7&f=33.3&g=20.6 Though I felt like there were several questions where the quiz asked if something was necessary, while I considered it good but optional. The rightist test called me Geo-Libertarianism. Which seems to be neo-georgism, which was my last ideology before leaving liberalism, so it checks out.
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I finally found the proper political test: https://8values.github.io/ Here are my results: 
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May 13, 2020 21:00
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8values thinks I'm an anarcho-socialist, which is good, except they called it libertarian socialist. I refuse to be associated with libertarians.
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May 14, 2020 04:48
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Libertarian socialist is the old, original use of the word and it means ancoms, basically. The ancaps nicked the word some time in the mid 20th century.
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May 14, 2020 04:50
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I got Trotskism. Okay.
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Kerning Chameleon posted:I got Trotskism. Okay. How do you feel about jazz? ... How do you feel about racist jazz?
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May 14, 2020 17:55
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Was Trotsky into racist jazz?
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May 14, 2020 18:49
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Libertarian communist. These tests are placing me way further left than I thought I was.
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May 14, 2020 21:15
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Badactura posted:Was Trotsky into racist jazz? SWP (UK's largest socialist party) is a racist jazz and sex abuse cult.
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May 15, 2020 05:19
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 Closest Match: Council Communism Council Communism is a form of Marxism that advocates for workers councils being the core foundation of a socialist society. Council Communists generally oppose the existence of strong influence from political parties within the socialist political system, favoring council democracy. Next closest matches: Eco-Anarchism: 92.7% Eco-Anarchism, or Green Anarchism, is a form of anarchism that places a particular emphasis on environmental issues. It is often linked to more distinct ideologies such as Anarcho-Syndicalism. Eco-Anarchists are generally revolutionary and support using a decentralized egalitarian economy to achieve environmental goals. Anarcho-Communism: 88.1% Anarcho-Communism is a form of anarchism that advocates for the abolition of capitalism and the state, as well as the collective ownership of the means of production. Anarcho-Communists support a decentralized economy and government, with Anarcho-Syndicalism being a common way of organizing such a society. Eco-Marxism: 85.2% Eco-Marxism is a form of Orthodox Marxism more commonly found in the modern day that places a particular emphasis on environmental issues. Eco-Marxists generally favor central economic planning as a way of combating climate issues. Orthodox Marxism: 80.6% Orthodox Marxism is a form of Marxism that adopts views that conform to Marxist theory as it was originally written, particularily on the topic of dialectical materialism. Orthodox Marxists are highly revolutionary and internationalist and hold that nonindustrial societies are incapable of achieving socialism.
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Synthetic Dreams posted:
Yo whatup homie  
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