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Uncharted 4 had almost inexplicably lazy writing. They gave them so much build up just to not meaningfully address any of the conflicts between the characters. I mean, they do address it but in really quick and lazy ways.
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fadam posted:I don’t think people are mad because they think it’s not realistic, they’re mad because it’s super low hanging fruit. This is why Death Stranding is good. Some of its writing is just as dumb and hamfisted as Naughty Dog's but it still manages to be really impactful because it's not relentlessly one-note. "Before you I was like any other Cliff" is both dumb as hell and genuinely a great moment, and you didn't have to plod through hours of brutality to get there.
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Apr 27, 2020 18:50
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Haha they announced that it's coming out in June now. I'm sure things are going great over there.
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Apr 27, 2020 18:51
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CharlestonJew posted:do the leaks say anything about the game being filled with torture porn because that one scene from the reveal where the cult lady broke that girl's arm went on waaaaayyyyyyy too long and was really offputting Yeah this turned me off naughty dog forever, honestly. Just a hyper-realistic 4-minute cutscene of a woman being tortured; literally zero gameplay. Why play games at all at that point? Just watch a movie. It's OK to have lots of exposition... Red Dead 2 had tons and tons of exposition... but at least when promoting rdr2, they spent tons of time detailing how it was essentially a cowboy simulator. They didn't just show a cutscene of a guy getting scalped and then expect you to buy the game
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Apr 27, 2020 18:51
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Everything I had seen before this made TLoU2 look to be relentlessly cynical, wallowing in misery to prove It Should Be Taken Seriously, so I am not really surprised by any of the leaks. It is the product of jaundiced minds
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Apr 27, 2020 18:54
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Maybe Rockstar should include that horrible scene from the horrible film Bone Tomahawk in their promotional material for RDR3.
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Apr 27, 2020 18:56
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also making the player kill a beloved character has already been done ex: big boss killing his mentor. holy gently caress mgs3 was a great game, one of my favorites
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Apr 27, 2020 18:58
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What if Hostel, but playable?
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fadam posted:Lmao I’m reading a bunch more stuff suggesting that Abby actually is trans. Maybe there actually is something to the theory that Libs really don’t understand progressive politics and just sort of ape them for clout. Where? The only place I've seen it suggested is this thread.
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Apr 27, 2020 18:59
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FallenGod posted:What if Hostel Fixed it for you. Naughty Dog games are less interactive than Dragon's Lair
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Apr 27, 2020 18:59
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Jimbot posted:Maybe Rockstar should include that horrible scene from the horrible film Bone Tomahawk in their promotional material for RDR3. I mean other than the director being a nazi and making terrible nazi movies afterwards that movie had a pretty positive reception even around here. I'd say Kurt Russell performance still makes the movie worth watching
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Apr 27, 2020 19:01
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this all sounds like extreme misery porn. God Of War addressed themes of revenge and redemption so much better and what's more it was actually fun to loving play. The sequel in general is a poo poo idea though because it really lessens the impact of the first game's ending and if these spoilers are true, it makes that even worse
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Apr 27, 2020 19:01
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MeatwadIsGod posted:This is why Death Stranding is good. Some of its writing is just as dumb and hamfisted as Naughty Dog's but it still manages to be really impactful because it's not relentlessly one-note. "Before you I was like any other Cliff" is both dumb as hell and genuinely a great moment, and you didn't have to plod through hours of brutality to get there. Death Stranding is literally the positive cooperation based post apocalyptic game pined for a few pages back. I love how insanely steep and appropriate the penalty is for killing anyone in that game.
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Apr 27, 2020 19:01
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Terminal autist posted:I mean other than the director being a nazi and making terrible nazi movies afterwards that movie had a pretty positive reception even around here. I'd say Kurt Russell performance still makes the movie worth watching Eh. I'll agree that the performances were extremely good but it's still a really racist film.
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Apr 27, 2020 19:04
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Farg posted:the last of us 2 is to storytelling what olive garden is to fine dining This, but replace "last of us 2" with "video games."
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Apr 27, 2020 19:08
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I'm looking forward to Troy Baker's playthrough on his youtube channel so he can talk about how amazing and powerful the scene is where he gets beat to death with a golf club, also how amazing and powerful every other cutscene in the game is. Less misery simulators and more strand games.
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Apr 27, 2020 19:09
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Less strand games and more tourist traps
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Apr 27, 2020 19:10
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Jimbot posted:Eh. I'll agree that the performances were extremely good but it's still a really racist film. This is really fair I have a serious case of contrarian poisoning. Please don't give money or watch nazi movies.
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Apr 27, 2020 19:11
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CJ posted:I'm looking forward to Troy Baker's playthrough on his youtube channel so he can talk about how amazing and powerful the scene is where he gets beat to death with a golf club, also how amazing and powerful every other cutscene in the game is. And also Nolan can nod along and look like he maybe would rather go home and hang out with his kids or something.
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Apr 27, 2020 19:12
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Zeta Acosta posted:also making the player kill a beloved character has already been done ex: big boss killing his mentor. Ocelot trying to poke Snake in the eye during the fight in the plane is the greatest moment in videogames
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Apr 27, 2020 19:13
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Zeta Acosta posted:also making the player kill a beloved character has already been done ex: big boss killing his mentor. The difference there I'd say is that there was a very clear reason that The Boss had to die and why Snake had to do it, and from the sounds of the leaks Abby kills Ellie out of revenge and the message of the game is "cycles of violence are bad"
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Apr 27, 2020 19:17
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RBA Starblade posted:I don't know what this means and I think that's probably a good thing “the harder and louder i jerk myself off about how much better my media of choice is than video games, the more i’m right, and everyone knows it”
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Apr 27, 2020 19:17
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Pylons posted:The difference there I'd say is that there was a very clear reason that The Boss had to die and why Snake had to do it, and from the sounds of the leaks Abby kills Ellie out of revenge and the message of the game is "cycles of violence are bad" it's also different in that mgs3 is one standalone story whereas this is a completely unnecessary sequel that just seems to exist to put two fan favorites through even more misery
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Apr 27, 2020 19:21
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Unrelated but all this last of us 2 trainwreck has me worried about cyberpunk 2077: i hope it doesnt get leaked to hell and that the folks at cdpr dont try to SUBVERT EXPECTATIONS and huff their own farts like Druckmann
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Pylons posted:The difference there I'd say is that there was a very clear reason that The Boss had to die and why Snake had to do it, and from the sounds of the leaks Abby kills Ellie out of revenge and the message of the game is "cycles of violence are bad" This is so simplistically handled from the looks of things, and is gonna look like poo poo compared to the most recent God of War game, which also covers similar themes but doesn't wallow in how miserable humanity is since its view is that even the worst people can become better if they try.
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Apr 27, 2020 19:23
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Pylons posted:The difference there I'd say is that there was a very clear reason that The Boss had to die and why Snake had to do it, and from the sounds of the leaks Abby kills Ellie out of revenge and the message of the game is "cycles of violence are bad" Obviously we don't have the full context of the new game, but if that is the message then what was Joel's alternative in the first game? Given that an armed militia was about to cut open his surrogate daughter's brain, and they weren't going to stop if he asked nicely. Seems like violence is justified from his position there.
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Apr 27, 2020 19:25
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Like I don't think the kind of story they want to tell, in general, is completely off limits. The issue is that Funny Games is focused and less than two hours, it's not something that's 20 hours of combat arenas with sick execution animations interspersed with box-pushing puzzles
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Apr 27, 2020 19:26
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CJ posted:I'm looking forward to Troy Baker's playthrough on his youtube channel so he can talk about how amazing and powerful the scene is where he gets beat to death with a golf club, also how amazing and powerful every other cutscene in the game is. drat, is that what their playthrough is like? Uncharted 1 and 2's was really fun and Nolan North was talking about all the behind-the-scenes stuff between doing Sully impressions.
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Apr 27, 2020 19:33
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The first episode they had the actor who played Joel's daughter on as a guest and poo poo got real right away
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Apr 27, 2020 19:36
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This is the model they used for the new character. But like, Neil when someone says they want their head crushed between a toned pair of thighs they don't mean it literally. Like they don't actually mean they want their melon exploded and hopes someone videotaped the whole thing and put it up somewhere on the net Neil.
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My favorite will always be Human Revolution's, where everyone learns that Elias's not putting on a voice, he actually just sounds like that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flszuT3ROdo "Shut up Pritchard" 
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Like I don't think the kind of story they want to tell, in general, is completely off limits. As I mentioned earlier you definitely can make a long game out of it as well. LISA is an intensely cynical and mean-spirited game but it's also really funny so it's not an entirely miserable experience. And it manages to pull off multiple really brutal moments by having them permanently effect the game play as well. I guess it ultimately comes down to whether TLOU2 is a humorless misery simulator or if it has a bit more going on with the story but from everything they've showed it seem like it will be the former.
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Apr 27, 2020 19:40
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RBA Starblade posted:My favorite will always be Human Revolution's, where everyone learns that Elias's not putting on a voice, he actually just sounds like that. I saw that dude doing a guest role on a sci-fi tv show and thought "Well that was not how I expected that actor to look like at all"
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DLC Inc posted:this all sounds like extreme misery porn. God Of War addressed themes of revenge and redemption so much better and what's more it was actually fun to loving play. The sequel in general is a poo poo idea though because it really lessens the impact of the first game's ending and if these spoilers are true, it makes that even worse Sekiro doesn't get enough credit for this either imo
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Apr 27, 2020 19:42
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I'm going to spoil ghost of tsushima. The ending is some real Deus ex Machina bullshit.
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Apr 27, 2020 19:50
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Hmmm, I don't like a lot of what I'm hearing, but I do like seeing people get tortured, so what am I to do?
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Apr 27, 2020 20:08
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Ms Adequate posted:Hmmm, I don't like a lot of what I'm hearing, but I do like seeing people get tortured, so what am I to do? Put some earplugs in
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Apr 27, 2020 20:09
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Ms Adequate posted:Hmmm, I don't like a lot of what I'm hearing, but I do like seeing people get tortured, so what am I to do? turn your monitor
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Zeta Acosta posted:also making the player kill a beloved character has already been done ex: big boss killing his mentor. The Boss wasn't really in the same category as she didn't exist before that game. Also she spent most of the game beating the poo poo out of you. I was at best conflicted the first time through (before seeing the ending).
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