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 For the past few months, it has been obvious to those of us following the U.S. Democratic Party Primary that Joseph R. Biden had credible rape accusations against him by several women, most prominently, Tara Reade. Now, in 2020 electoral politics in the United States, the "First Past the Post" system funnels voters in to a two-party viable system. However, this does not create a justification of any sort with regards to voting for rapists and abusers. Yes, Donald J. Trump is also accused. Yes, it is likely at this juncture that Biden will also be the Democratic nominee on the ballot, especially since the party is attempting to cancel future elections.  It is my opinion that the moderators of our digital nation should discard this false dichotomy. They should reject the structure of electoral politics in the U.S., and reject the idea that voters are forced to choose between these two people. There is no justification more convincing in favor of voting for them, then the knowledge of their crime should be justification for not voting all together. My suggestion is a simple one: a single warning to desist, then immediate banning of anyone who places the safety and well being of victims secondary to winning a political football game. Yes, the stakes of the election are high. Indeed, there are reasons to prefer one candidate over the other. But there is no reason that differences in policy should override the one commonality between Biden and Trump, and sadly indeed, with countless others in the world: They are rapists. They have violated their victims, and advocating that a rapist should be chosen to hold any position of authority should be a ban-worthy offense. 
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Apr 28, 2020 23:17
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This is loving stupid, close thread ban op E: not saying that as a meme
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Apr 28, 2020 23:22
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T-man posted:This is loving stupid, close thread ban op So you are in favor of having people laud praise on known rapists?
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Apr 28, 2020 23:27
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Skyl3lazer posted:advocating that a rapist should be chosen to hold any position of authority should be a ban-worthy offense. How 2019 of you. Sounds legitimately reasonable, therefore it cannot be allowed to exist.
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May 2, 2020 13:16
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T-man posted:This is loving stupid, close thread ban op sighing as I set my “days since T-man made a bad post” signboard back to “0”
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May 2, 2020 13:26
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but both of the candidates are
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May 2, 2020 13:55
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thought i was in qcs for a second, that would have been funny
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May 2, 2020 14:03
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somebodys doing the voting
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May 2, 2020 14:09
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op sounds like a cop
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May 2, 2020 14:12
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Slippery Nipple posted:op sounds like a cop with respect, gently caress u
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May 2, 2020 15:51
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Raged posted:but both of the candidates are There's more than two/Democrat and Republican candidates you can vote for Green Party: Howie Hawkins and/or Jesse Ventura Libertarians: Could be anyone tbh, Jacob Hornberger's leading in the primaries, Vermin Supreme and Jo Jorgensen each have over 10% of the popular vote thus far, Justin Amash just entered the race Gloria La Riva is PSL That's not even counting the many independents who've shown interest, or low-interest parties like the Constitution Party's Don Blankenship and the 643 people who voted for him in NC+ID+MO "But splitting the vote" you may say, to which I reply "who gives a gently caress lol". If a Dem candidate and a Repub candidate haven't earned your vote, you don't owe them poo poo
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May 2, 2020 16:15
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Further evidence that having a newspaper stylesheet for c-spam would be pretty cool
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May 2, 2020 16:38
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Bernie's lack of sexual assault history turned out to legit be unpresidential.
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May 3, 2020 19:02
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Christoph posted:Bernie's lack of sexual assault history turned out to legit be unpresidential. hahaha, poo poo
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May 3, 2020 19:06
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I agree and support the OP of this thread. Joe Biden raped his subordinate just like dozens of other men on Capitol Hill: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_sex_scandals_in_the_United_States
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Jun 6, 2020 15:44
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yes agreed
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Jun 6, 2020 19:56
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disagree. biden winning would be extremely funny as trump would refuse to leave and a potus refusing to leave power will destroy the country.
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Jun 6, 2020 19:58
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Reality Protester posted:disagree. biden winning would be extremely funny as trump would refuse to leave and a potus refusing to leave power will destroy the country. possibly? but also we should ban every rape-enabler advocating voting for a rapist
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Jun 6, 2020 20:05
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Reality Protester posted:disagree. biden winning would be extremely funny as trump would refuse to leave and a potus refusing to leave power will destroy the country. will it? what if biden just feebly says "okay" and goes home
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Jun 6, 2020 21:01
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I (obviously) agree that no one should vote for Joe Biden, but supporting him shouldn't lead to a ban unless you've done the toxx. Vanishingly few Biden supporters post in C-SPAM anyway, but if they did I'd rather they be ridiculed, or maybe probed if their advocacy got overbearing. Banning isn't necessary
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Jun 6, 2020 21:10
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Fly Molo posted:will it? what if biden just feebly says "okay" and goes home also funny and biden doesnt get to be president
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Jun 6, 2020 21:11
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Fly Molo posted:will it? what if biden just feebly says "okay" and goes home that would also be really, really funny. I would prefer a Biden victory to a Trump one, but I refuse to legitimatize the process by voting for Biden. The rape was the nail in the coffin.
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Jun 6, 2020 21:13
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Taintrunner posted:possibly? i agree, mods, let's make this happen
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Jun 6, 2020 21:14
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biden will have forgotten he even ran in the elections and curmudgeonly refuse to believe anyone who says he did and won
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Jun 6, 2020 21:15
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Plus having a hard rule would make us seem insecure like D&D is. The NoJoe cause is self-evidently strong and righteous, and I'm not even a little afraid of some sniveling BlueMAGA convincing me to vote Joe because I'm privileged or he has the Most Progressive Platform In History lol. I say bring em on to get crushed and laughed at
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Jun 6, 2020 21:26
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Setting the rape aside, elections are a game and you won't win it without presenting the Democrats with a credible threat of losing your vote. Their strategy of fear mongering about Trump wasn't just designed to deliver the nomination to Biden, but also to get you to vote for their old fucker. Basically they've turned this election into a bomb threat. You're holding the bomb and they're not convinced you'll set it off. But as long as they don't think there's a credible threat that you will trigger the bomb (by not voting for them), they will give you nothing. They're calling your bluff by making you afraid of your own bomb. They've been doing this for generations and morons keep falling for it. By voting for Biden you're guaranteeing that there will be zero positive change in this country for the next 8 years. It's actually worse than Trump having another term. And Trump will just run again in 4 years. So don't vote for a rapist, you have literally nothing to gain and your soul to lose. Dolphin has issued a correction as of 21:39 on Jun 6, 2020 |
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Jun 6, 2020 21:37
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lol look at this counter-revolutionary OP unwilling to call for the ban of pro-electoralist posts
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Jun 6, 2020 21:37
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Refuse to vote for Biden because of your own personal principles, not your stupid game theory or whatever.
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Jun 6, 2020 21:41
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Refuse to vote for Biden because of your own personal principles, not your stupid game theory or whatever. Refuse to vote for Joe Biden for literally any reason you want, as long as you don't vote for him
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Jun 6, 2020 21:42
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Refuse to vote for Biden because of your own personal principles, not your stupid game theory or whatever.
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Jun 6, 2020 21:47
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Refuse to vote for Biden because of your own personal principles, not your stupid game theory or whatever. the materialist analysis of reality wherein things get dramatically worse after a caretaker blue republican President upholds the status quo completely and makes no meaningful changes (for an example, let's turn to history, alllllllllllllllll the way back to the year 2016 when after 8 years of Obama we got trump lmfao) is principled voting for the guy on the off chance that he's somehow less bad than the alternative is the game theory
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Jun 6, 2020 21:47
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I have a God given right to vote for a rapist and I'm not going to let some schmuck tell me not to!
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Jun 6, 2020 21:49
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smarxist posted:voting for the guy on the off chance that he's somehow less bad than the alternative is the game theory
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Jun 6, 2020 21:51
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Chris James 2 posted:There's more than two/Democrat and Republican candidates you can vote for
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Jun 6, 2020 21:52
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thought this was gonna be a controversial thread, but the things the OP said are actually pretty reasonable
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Jun 6, 2020 21:57
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close thread cancel OP
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Jun 6, 2020 21:59
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Refuse to vote for Biden because of your own personal principles, not your stupid game theory or whatever.  I found the Biden voter, mods can finally ban this sick piece of filth
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Jun 6, 2020 22:03
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Refuse to vote for Biden because of your own personal principles, not your stupid game theory or whatever. Game theory is the only tenable argument in favor of Biden. Anyone with principles has no other reason to vote for him.
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Jun 6, 2020 22:17
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Jewel Repetition posted:I (obviously) agree that no one should vote for Joe Biden, but supporting him shouldn't lead to a ban unless you've done the toxx. Vanishingly few Biden supporters post in C-SPAM anyway, but if they did I'd rather they be ridiculed, or maybe probed if their advocacy got overbearing. Banning isn't necessary Came here to post something similar to this. I also don’t agree that this is the most effective strategy for discouraging people to vote for Biden, which I presume to be one of the main goals of the op. Think of the lurkers, or people from other forums who pop into c-spam once in a while and are unsure about whether to post here because c-spam is perceived by some to a be a hostile leftist bubble. Some of those people may be on the fence about voting for Biden or not. Now consider the following two scenarios: quote:1. Someone makes a post in c-spam advocating for voting for Joe Biden. That post is immediately responded to by 15 people with good reasons for why voting for Biden is bad. Lurker on the fence sees this and reads the arguments, and decides that the anti-Biden posts are convincing, they decide not vote for Biden. quote:2. We adopt the rule you are proposing. Lurker on the fence comes to c-spam, sees this rule, decides that it is pointless to read c-spam because we are an insular and hostile group of weirdos who aren’t even pretending to allow people to discuss the most mainstream political issues in the country right now. This leaves a bad taste in their mouth, so they go read D&D, and someone there says something which convinces them to vote for Biden. I’m not going to speak definitively for the rest of the mod team on this, but I’m pretty sure that the rest of them would agree with me if I say that one of our current goals in c-spam is to make it a welcoming place for new people. If new people come here and stay here and read all the stuff we write, they may think it’s funny and convincing and stick around, and after being exposed to our views, start sharing those views. Rules like this make c-spam seem hostile and weird, and discourage people from reading it. Your Marxist radicalization chamber isn’t going to radicalize anyone if you post a sign on the door of the chamber which says that moderates will be shot for trespassing if they enter. twoday has issued a correction as of 22:44 on Jun 6, 2020 |
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Gazpacho posted:enjoy sniffing your own borscht farts Are you trying to suggest that voting for someone who isn't a rapist is a Russian plot?
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