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Barry Foster posted:if that's true then what's even the point in extending the lockdown? Clearly we can't hack it, and it's not like the government will make things more restrictive Going to a park is an allowed activity for everyone but the extremely vulnerable. It's a low risk one too. Opening up schools, in contrast, would spread the virus like mad.
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Gonzo McFee posted:I've just kind of realised when boomers do this WW2 cosplay poo poo despite being born in 1949 what they're really saying is "I miss my mum and dad and I'm too emotionally crippled and petrified of my own death to work through it in a healthy way so I'm just going to scream incoherently with what I think my dad would say". There's a whole generation who are just dealing with their parents PTSD. I'm a late boomer. I miss my family intensely and it does give the 60s and 70s, when everyone I loved was alive, a bit of a golden glow in my memory. So I can imagine earlier boomers feeling like that about the late 40s and 50s, and silents who were at home for VE celebrations having them as some peak experience. But being so old also means I actually knew lots of people who fought in both world wars, and lots of people whose brothers or sons died in them. And it would be hard to kid myself that any of them would appreciate all this flag-waving. They didn't ever do it themselves. I think gammons of all ages just scream in a way the media have told them is acceptable.
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May 1, 2020 21:04
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Clement posted:especially as the WWII veterans all start to go to the great mess hall in the sky. Start? They've almost all gone already. My dad was just old enough to fight in the last two years of it. He'd be 95 now.
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May 1, 2020 21:54
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Failed Imagineer posted:I think people do this now colloquially just with short phrases like "no joke" "no lie" "forreal" or whatever your local equivalent is. I don't see much ambiguity in practice I think the ambiguity just comes from different speech communities having opposite understandings. If I hear 'literally' I'm likely to assume a statement of fact unless it's impossible, while 'not joking', ngl etc don't (for me) rule out hyperbole. Context usually clears things up easily though, I don't think it's a pressing problem.
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May 3, 2020 12:19
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XMNN posted:if they were actually planning on controlling the epidemic they wouldn't loosen the restrictions while we were still at high infection and death rates And opening schools first! Herding the demographic with the lowest ability to maintain social distancing together.
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May 7, 2020 10:22
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Jose posted:i'm sure everyone is going to be fine being forced back into work but also told they can't leave the house otherwise Like lots of people have been the whole time.
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May 7, 2020 11:44
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Loonytoad Quack posted:Lockdown is hosed at this point, I've just been invited to a 1940's tea party this afternoon being run exclusively by people in the highest clinical risk group. No one I know is voluntarily unlocking. Admittedly most of them have had to work as usual the whole time, so it would make relatively little difference.
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May 8, 2020 11:29
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zentigeist posted:Do people normally celebrate VE day? No. It's Tory bollocks, inspired at least in part by a hatred of May Day.
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May 8, 2020 17:18
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zentigeist posted:is it like this every VE day?? Or do they just have a death wish. No, it's never happened before, I doubt many people were even aware of the date.
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May 8, 2020 17:32
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justcola posted:I was talking to my neighbour yesterday and think he's totally gone off the deep end. Usually he's pretty lefty and reasonable In the last years of his life my very lefty and reasonable dad would get a bit paranoid every winter, when he couldn't go out to do things in nature, which was also the way he socialized. I imagine Covid isolation is going to make a lot of people a bit potty, and if they aren't firmly inoculated against believing random 'documentaries' they'll be easy marks.
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May 10, 2020 14:21
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OwlFancier posted:Unison I think and GMB just had its secretary step down for being a mega sex creep, unsure if it's related to the labour thing though. Unison definitely, and other GMB staff too.
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May 10, 2020 21:43
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sebzilla posted:Did Are Keir say anything Rayner at least sent an email out criticizing sending people out to work and urging people to join a union.
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May 11, 2020 19:21
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Paul.Power posted:What's so special about the beach? I think the biggest thing is probably that it has built in entertainment for children (and adults who like swimming or surfing). Plus convenient nearby refreshments and loos, in most cases. (I also just love seeing the sea and think every landscape would be improved by it. But I am not suggesting any of this is more important than saving lives.)
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May 12, 2020 09:49
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Guavanaut posted:Brits seem to think that Americans are being fake polite when they're being formal There's some of that of course (I have only very rarely been addressed as ma'am and it took effort not to develop an instant loathing), but Americans obviously do use formal terms in a sarcastic way too. There was that tedious Olbermann speech addressed to Bush (? I think) that kept saying 'You, sir'. And now my niece says 'sir' a lot when arguing with men and I have to bite my tongue. Thank goodness 'ma'am' is just too embarrassing for her to say.
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May 14, 2020 12:02
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Jippa posted:I must be the only person that watches bbc4. It's the only channel I watch 
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May 14, 2020 12:27
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feedmegin posted:Working class families have never had the luxury of mummy just staying home all day throughout their offsprings' childhoods. A lot of married women would at home, but taking in laundry etc.
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May 14, 2020 16:38
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:The left don't stand a chance of changing internal democracy now. This has not yet been proved and I don't think we should surrender until it has. We've not even had one conference. The last NEC results have helpfully reminded the left of the importance of slate voting whether you completely agree with the slate or not.
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May 15, 2020 11:39
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Tarnop posted:Keep paying the Labour party money! Keep funding the people who hate you, despite personal circumstances! If you don't then it's your fault! Keep fighting the fight with your comrades! Keep your ability to vote against the enemy! If you don't then yes, it is your fault actually. We had mass membership and were making real progress. We weakened the PLP grip on leadership nominations and got a bunch of the rightwingers to leave. Beating an entrenched enemy takes time.
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May 15, 2020 14:18
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mehall posted:What votes will I, as a lay member, be able to participate on in the near future? 1 depends somewhat on your CLP. For example council election candidates matter, because councillors elect NEC members. Conference delegate elections also matter in a normal year, though possibly not this one, and the same goes for voting on motions to Conference. CLP offices esp. secretary matter because they can be used to manipulate. Obviously the next NEC elections will matter most. You currently need to have been a member for 2 months to vote in CLP meetings. For national elections the NEC decides, so expect a longer requirement next time.
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May 15, 2020 15:03
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Jakabite posted:The Labour Party is never going to achieve left wing aims. If you still think it will you're absolutely deluded. If you were saying this under Corbyn, then ok, we just disagree. It's not that I think the Labour Party will achieve socialism alone, but I think it's a tool for the left to organize through, than which no better has yet been suggested. But if you were pro-joining-Labour under Corbyn but now, only a few weeks later, are not, then I think you're just leaving the fight to other people. jabby posted:It's a loving joke dude E: I liked your joke jabby Oh dear me fucked around with this message at 15:41 on May 15, 2020 |
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May 15, 2020 15:27
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Coohoolin posted:Like, the Labour party can help, and during the brief moment where electoralism becomes relevant yeah, probably vote for Labour if you have no other options, but don't join the party or work to legitimise and endorse its role as a primacy of leftist politics. That just helps capital. If voting for the Labour Party is sensible at national elections, then voting in its internal elections is more sensible, because the electorate is far smaller and so your vote matters more. You can't say 'the Labour Party can help' and then say 'but we should do nothing to make it helpful'. Not persuasively, anyway.
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May 15, 2020 16:00
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TACD posted:I think this argument would have more weight were it not for the leaked report. It's myopic cunts all the way down and until there's even a vague plan for purging them to rally around then continued membership of the Labour Party is just throwing good money after bad. A plan which will miraculously spring into existence if people leave? That's leaving the fight to others. We're much more likely to get a plan if people keep going to Labour Party meetings agitating for one.
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May 15, 2020 16:33
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Tarnop posted:For any of the people currently advocating continuing Labour Party membership, do the monthly fees constitute an actual budgetary decision for you? And are you aware that you still have to pay for membership even if your sole income is a state benefit that Labour (allegedly) considers unfit for purpose? Yes, I am chronically ill and rely wholly on benefits.
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May 15, 2020 16:35
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Coohoolin posted:Like is it a British thing being so completely locked into party politics that you're still arguing to endorse the apparatus that deliberately sabotaged their own election campaign at the behest of capital? I'm not arguing to 'endorse' anything. I'm arguing that people should use what one of the few means we have to change things, and my evidence that they can change things is that we started to change things. Then we suffered a single defeat and a bunch of people threw in the towel. I understood an emotional reaction was natural, and tried to bite my tongue. But the continuing "I'm so glad I threw in the towel, the rest of you have no hope of winning now" posts occasionally vex me.
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May 15, 2020 16:47
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Tarnop posted:Lol nope, apparently even that doesn't pass the purity test: What are you talking about? You asked me if subs were a significant part of my budget and if I understood about benefits. I said yes.
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May 15, 2020 16:49
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The Question IRL posted:With Envy, you are envious of the gold that someone else has. But once you take it off them, you don't really care about the gold. You throw it on the pile, because you got what you want. (Namely taking the gold away from that person. I think that's spite. I am envious of Joyce DiDonato because I should like to be able to sing like her, not because I want her not to be able to.
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May 20, 2020 13:54
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:And as to all those productivity blogs - I was reading one yesterday (one of my favourite things to do to procrastinate and waste time is read productivity blogs) that was saying 'get up at 4am'! Why, god, why? Because no one else is up, so you won't be interrupted, or tempted by forms of entertainment available at night. That's it.
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May 21, 2020 11:21
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Call me thick, I'm finding it hard to translate that tweet! I think he misspoke and meant he doesn't see how No 10 could say he has acted within the rules, let alone the spirit of the rules.
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May 23, 2020 00:16
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Is driving when you believe your eyesight might not be good enough illegal? Or is it only illegal if you subsequently fail an eyesight test?
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thespaceinvader posted:I have yet to see a single shielding person who has not said 'gently caress this I'm continuing to stay at home' if they're able, but a lot will not be able, especially as the food package programme is stopping too, or so I understand. I'm shielding and staying put, but I think we're still getting food parcels for now. We're only going to be allowed out to meet one person on Monday, so it still rules out shopping.
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