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I have decided to communicate entirely through the medium of precision bombing, in addition to my new job as foreign secretary I tell you it's making typing this post far more time consuming than before.
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# ¿ May 1, 2020 00:39 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 03:16 |
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I have arisen from my slumber and I am a prisoner of want for breakfast.
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# ¿ May 1, 2020 11:19 |
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Genuinely sick and tired of these loving snowflakes whose sole concern in life is waving a loving flag around because that's the only problem they've ever had. It's literally exactly what they complain about the left being. Useless coddled old wastes of skin.
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# ¿ May 1, 2020 12:57 |
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Specifically in reference to some earl in the english civil war who was apparently not popular with his wife. Sadly flown by another royalist. Pretty hardcore kinkshaming though.
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# ¿ May 1, 2020 13:45 |
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Parks aren't necessarily a problem as long as you're keeping away from other groups.
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# ¿ May 1, 2020 13:55 |
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Continuity RCP posted:I take the furlough very seriously so I'm not even looking at hilarious minion memes on the work Facebook group you were very clear I must do no work for the company and I consider reading the work social media to be work.
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# ¿ May 1, 2020 14:58 |
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Yesterday they counted all tests that had been posted out as "performed"
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# ¿ May 1, 2020 18:05 |
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If members of the public do not perform the tests properly I am sure you can not possibly hold the government to account, and if it artificially drives down the reported infection rate that can not at all be considered a benefit to them.
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# ¿ May 1, 2020 18:12 |
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Darth Walrus posted:All tests are sent to the same labs. The tricky bit is that they're counting home orders of tests out for delivery as tests carried out, regardless of whether they've even arrived, let alone been used and sent back to a lab, when previously it was daily lab results. Sure, but if someone doesn't stick it in far enough and they have it but it doesn't show up on the test as a result, I'm sure the government would have no complaints about that.
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# ¿ May 1, 2020 18:40 |
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Guavanaut posted:One of the most (if not the main) important skills of an educator or organizer is to communicate a complex idea in a way that a person who may never have been exposed to that idea can intuitively understand through their lived experience, so some of the best books on social justice matters aren't thick or heavy. Pedagogy of the Oppressed is a very good book because it simultaneously agrees with you wholeheartedly while demonstrating incredibly well how absolutely loving excruciating it is trying to read something that is written in the format it describes as being poo poo Because either it was written for a very different audience or the author deliberately ignored all the suggestions he was making, possibly owing to the limitation of the format.
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# ¿ May 1, 2020 21:35 |
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It's not that hot, it's neoliberal bread and circuses, where there's no bread because everyone panic bought it and you have to make your own circus.
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# ¿ May 1, 2020 21:54 |
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Bonus points if you get arrested/killed for supporting islamic state.
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# ¿ May 2, 2020 17:40 |
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You can't be racist against white people and it has a strong class element, but it is maybe a bit misogynist so I generally avoid it.
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# ¿ May 2, 2020 22:07 |
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BoneMonkey posted:Does that mean gammon is sexist against men? Maybe? But I don't think ham faced tory assholes are particularly discriminated against, whereas the suggestion that being a horrible twat to service workers is inherently female coded is more iffy.
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# ¿ May 2, 2020 22:14 |
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You can make the argument that it fills a linguistic need by highlighting the power relationship between customers and service workers and how it is often abused, and that people who use it primarily mean it in that way and may be ignorant of other interpretations, or feel that the thing they're using it to communicate is more important than those other interpretations, and that both of those probably mean it's not worth going off on people who use it most of the time. But I guess I've not personally felt that way so I don't feel much need to use it. Sad Panda posted:https://twitter.com/means_tv/status/1256208829173444609 Huh, I didn't realise they'd got it published so widely. Or that it looked that good. Wonder if it'll raise their profile a bit. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 22:33 on May 2, 2020 |
# ¿ May 2, 2020 22:31 |
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I will say that I think the modern left is a lot better about intersectionality than it has been historically and that's a good thing but yeah there are a few weird groups of bellends lurking around. And obviously the... right wing of the left I guess are really poo poo at it. Though I would be loathe to call them left frankly, they're just a different shade of gammon.
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# ¿ May 2, 2020 23:44 |
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Does Orthodox Marxist mean something other than just agreeing with the points marx made? Cos I think I scored pretty high as one on that quiz thing.Coohoolin posted:Vitamin P dropped some of the most obvious bait I've ever seen on here, don't loving engage with that bullshit He's kind of right though? At the very least the karen meme is very imperfect in what it actually says even if you're inclined to give people the benefit of the doubt when they use it, which I generally am. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 23:52 on May 2, 2020 |
# ¿ May 2, 2020 23:50 |
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Guavanaut posted:Yes but especially the bits about being really homophobic and probably dodgy about immigration, if 90% of the people who proudly call themselves one above all other labels is anything to go by. Ah that kind, fair enough.
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# ¿ May 2, 2020 23:59 |
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I think the out and out "gently caress everyone who isn't a manly man worker down't pit" socialism types are few and far between and generally limited to weird trots/MLs and the like, but I also think, from experience, that it is extremely easy for lovely attitudes to minorities and women to creep in when you're not looking, even (perhaps especially) when people are canny enough to not say it out loud or to couch it in progressive sounding language. What you call radlib is actually not far divorced from what I think is a very important part of leftism, because I see leftism as being fundamentally about liberation, and while economics is probably the biggest form of oppression in most people's lives I don't find myself able to draw a line between that and liberation from social oppression, either directly by individual assholes or equally from just... bad ideas about how societry should be organized? Like gender roles and poo poo. I also don't think those things are in any way in conflict with economic liberation, and I also think that social liberation is one of the biggest sources of optimism and hope nowadays and I want that same energy to be a part of economic liberation too. I want to live to see the bourgeoisie swept aside by a tidal wave of queer as hell happy people, basically. It's my own vision of the new soviet man, I guess. Especially as I think that attacking those social institutions is necessary for building a new sense of community, there is no hope for leftism in a world where people are isolated from each other, and it's in radical social progressive circles that I see the most promising growth of emotional connection with other people. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 00:23 on May 3, 2020 |
# ¿ May 3, 2020 00:13 |
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And what better demonstration of class consciousness can you have than people smelling the bullshit even when it comes from someone wearing the right colour rosette? People who do that have a sense of (specific, at least) class consciousness that we would kill to have applied against the tories.
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# ¿ May 3, 2020 00:30 |
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Except the consistent point I've been getting at is that it doesn't matter what your intent is, it's what you actually say that matters. And that also applies to the ability to make actually correct arguments without belieiving them yourself. I don't really care whether he thinks they're throwaway rhetoric, they're still correct. The idea that intent changes the substance of a thing is, IMO, postmodernism, and I don't like it.
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# ¿ May 3, 2020 00:51 |
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Please tell me nobody actually named their daughter Jocasta.
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# ¿ May 3, 2020 01:18 |
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I mean I would be surprised if reknowned mythical sonfucker Jocasta was in the top 100 but I would feel better if nobody was called that tbh.
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# ¿ May 3, 2020 01:53 |
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If you're going to go around banning people from naming their children stupid things then the aristocracy would have a lot of problems.
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# ¿ May 3, 2020 03:07 |
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If we're doing UK applicable games, do you want to be a house flipper in a 1980's mining town? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMXsIW56sIA
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# ¿ May 3, 2020 17:56 |
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Me neither but apparently some people do!
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# ¿ May 3, 2020 18:48 |
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Translating skepticism into political action, however, is another thing entirely.
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# ¿ May 3, 2020 20:55 |
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With any luck it'll have the original filter full of asbestos.
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# ¿ May 3, 2020 21:32 |
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DeadButDelicious posted:Jesus, Bojo looks rough as hell on that Sun front page. Has he always looked that rough or do you think he looks worse because Covid beat the piss out of him? He genuinely seems to have gotten worse every month since he became PM. Like full on picture of dorian grey.
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# ¿ May 3, 2020 23:06 |
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Vitamin P posted:This idea of the new soviet man as happy queer person has been in my head all day btw, I don't think it's remotely achievable or would even be a good development but there's definitely a real something there. Almost like leaning into how capitalism destroys family and so accidently does also destroy gender normativity and just being like 'look what you've wrought' it's a compelling idea to me. I don't know, I think it might be more possible than you'd think, the normalization of homosexuality has caused absolutely horrific damage to the entire concept of normative sexual and gender performance. And yes there's a lot of pushback, but it wasn't so long ago that there wasn't so much pushback as absolute domination of the normative concepts and everything else had to be done in secret. When the weirdo moralists were asking "what next if we legalize gay marriage, it'll never stop" were 100% right, I think. I think a lot of people and particularly among younger generations who haven't grown up with as much conditioning bullshit, alot of people are asking what the loving point is? Why do you need to be constantly freaking out about whether something is gay or effeminate or whatever the gently caress else? Why do we bother with it? Is it not just all so much loving stress? Moreover I think a lot of social atomization is kinda tied up in that, I don't think it's a coincidence that the far right is popular among miserable, virulently homophobic and misogynist shut-ins. There is a mutual vulnerability that is found among queer communities and also, I think, among anyone who is at least somewhat nonconformist in that area. And I also think there's often a good culture of mutual support there, whereas the far right lot mostly just miserywank each other to death about it because having feelings and sharing them in an environment of mutual vulnerability with others is gay. I don't think it's an accident that a lot of radically progressive spaces are also left leaning.
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# ¿ May 3, 2020 23:32 |
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I can't imagine how unbelievably boring you'd have to be to have that many lovely books.
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# ¿ May 4, 2020 00:16 |
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Is Rosen back on his feet do we know?
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# ¿ May 4, 2020 12:27 |
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drat. I was hoping there'd been something more recent.
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# ¿ May 4, 2020 12:33 |
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His Divine Shadow posted:Belated happy may day. I uh... don't remember that statue looking quite like that last I checked?
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# ¿ May 4, 2020 12:52 |
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Pretty sure they shovel that off the beach every autumn.
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# ¿ May 4, 2020 13:47 |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_osmosis Apparently it's just "putting something through a filter" which I guess is technically reverse osmosis.
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# ¿ May 4, 2020 13:53 |
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https://www.thejc.com/comment/comment/one-stupid-tweet-by-owen-jones-confirms-all-you-need-to-know-about-the-hard-left-1.499433 You see, when michael gove collects books by holocaust deniers, it's not antisemitic, becaus he isn't an antisemite. When left wing people do basically anything, it's antisemitic, because they're antisemites.
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# ¿ May 4, 2020 19:27 |
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It makes a lot more sense if you change the perspective so that peak hours are when the companies can get away with charging more.
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# ¿ May 4, 2020 19:46 |
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Pistol_Pete posted:I... don't understand why all the people who claim to really, really care about anti-semitism are going apeshit over this Gove book business. Like, is this some 8 dimensional chess move or is it just a random Twitter thing that's happened to blow up oddly? Because they really, really care about using it to advance their right wing political agenda and absolutely not at all otherwise.
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# ¿ May 4, 2020 21:35 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 03:16 |
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Or help relieve the bog roll shortage. (do not flush)
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# ¿ May 4, 2020 22:55 |