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justcola
May 22, 2004

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Happy May sweet goons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-d-bILjG70

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justcola
May 22, 2004

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Happy International Workers' Day everyone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPExpmtdMEw

Give yourself a day off ey ;)

e:

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

LONDON MAY DAY online rally goes LIVE at 11am:

https://www.londonmayday.org/

Anyone lurking in the thread :justpost:, these times are weird and its good to get stuck in.

justcola fucked around with this message at 10:31 on May 1, 2020

justcola
May 22, 2004

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27,510 deaths today, we are 3rd in the world behind Italy and USA. We do however have the highest death rate in the world at 15.8%

justcola
May 22, 2004

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Josef bugman posted:

Thank you. have currently been trying to get through some thicker books, so might aim for something a bit less heavy atm.

Try Moby Dick perhaps. It wasn't really what I was expecting and its one of my favourite books I think.

If you liked the wizard university stuff in Discworld novels, the Gormenghast trilogy is a treat (can just read the second one as a standalone thing really)

If you prefer more factual stuff that's a bit poppy, A Burglar's Guide to the City is a good read, about architecture and that. There's also City of Quartz along similar lines about a history of Los Angeles.

justcola
May 22, 2004

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Twenty years or so ago people would have little flags with the English flag on that clipped onto car windows or sometimes the red and white flag hanging out of a window - but it was more associated with the working class. I think this changed a bit with the riots in 2011 and the following Keep calm and carry on merchandise and 'armies of volunteers' sweeping up the mess from riots, so now there's a group that prefer to use the Union Jack and go more for that midsomer murders aesthetic. Twee as gently caress.

It's an awful flag, 2 primary colours and white, the red diagonal lines are assymetrical, its one of the ugliest flags in the world I reckon.

justcola
May 22, 2004

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Dell_Zincht posted:

So basically this council person had absolutely no right to refuse to register that name, then

Who knows where we'd be if nominative determinism was in play with Predictor. Maybe they could have been the god child to save us all.

People should just be called Baby until they're 10 then they can pick their own name.

justcola
May 22, 2004

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Jippa posted:

A guy I used to work would describe events that happened in viral videos as if they either happened to him or someone he knew.

He just has too much empathy. The mirror neurons in his brain give him a sort of disco ball effect when he makes eye contact. He can't help but repost memes saying 'it me' because he actually believes it is him.

justcola
May 22, 2004

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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

Yes, that's my point. I am going to be hosed by a lovely schedule that there's no particular reason I need to adhere to because no amount of effort has ever made me able to wake up before 8am at the absolute earliest without it taking a toll on my mind and body.

You'll be able to snap back in a week, sure everyone will be in the same boat. The 9-5 work pattern should be dead, so should having to work in an office or doing hourlong commutes and getting interuppted by chuggers standing at train stations at rush hour.

I've been waking up around 8ish and going to bed around 2, but that's with drinking from about 6 (day drinking is a slippery slope). Sometimes I set an alarm for 5 or 7 in the morning just to mix it up a bit, see the dawn chorus, have a kip late afternoon.

justcola
May 22, 2004

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Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Why do people like kale? It's vile!
I had a 'green smoothie' in Amsterdam composed of pretty much what that first person's smoothie is a few years ago and it made me violently sick.

I don't drink alcohol or do drugs, but Hunter S Thompson's sounds a deal more appetizing.

It's not bad fried in a bit of butter, salt and pepper. Just like spinach with crunchy stalks in.

Having a diet of warm water and nettle seeds seems a bit much, but if your body slaps weight on if you eat a piece of bread I get it I guess. I never really struggled with having a good willpower over food - it was everything else I'd have poor impulse control over.

Guavanaut posted:

Along with "weed was safe in the 70s because it came from plants, but now it's 150% THC, which is why it must be kept illegal."

Back then it was weed, now we're all smoking super skunk and having gay cyber sex over zoom meetings whilst working from home. Boomers are jealous.

e: East 17 were a band. One of their members, Brian Harvey, is well known for running himself over after gorging on jacket potatoes. In 2014 he turned up at 10 Downing Street with a ring-bound folder but wasn't allowed to see David Cameron.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP_WRk-xV7I

justcola fucked around with this message at 13:39 on May 4, 2020

justcola
May 22, 2004

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Barry Foster posted:

non-weeders don't seem to get that other than with edibles it's self-titrating. If it takes you two hits to get the level you wanted to get to instead of ten, then that's better for your lungs and better all round. It's not like drinking a bottle of whiskey in one go

I will say that the tendency to breed 0% CBD strains isn't great, but that's a function of prohibition

Drinking these pints of vodka seems to get me more drunk than pints of bitter, maybe we should ban both?

The weed they used to have looks pretty rubbish.

justcola
May 22, 2004

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Probably the most problematic book I own is the Gates of Janus by Ian Brady that I keep meaning to chuck but also haven't yet read so I'm on the fence about. I binned off a bunch of Updike and Hemingway just because I didn't like the way they wrote about women, so I'm unsure why I've kept that particular book. Shame I can't do secret santa any more otherwise some head of HR would be frowning at it.

justcola
May 22, 2004

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https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/may/04/cost-of-public-transport-should-be-raised-as-lockdown-ends-ifs

quote:

Cost of public transport should be raised as lockdown ends – IFS

The price of a bus, train or tube ticket during peak commuting hours could be raised to prevent crowding and the spread of coronavirus on public transport, according to a leading thinktank.

Setting out a menu of options to end the government lockdown as ministers consider ways to reopen the British economy, the Institute for Fiscal Studies said discouraging public transport use during peak times could limit overcrowding and reduce the risks to public health.

Cool, getting home on time is only for rich people. Who don't use public transport anyway. Must be fun working in these think tanks and just guessing what people's lives are like. Maybe just scrap every oval office having to work 9-5 instead of making them pay more to get to work at some minimum wage bullshit office?

justcola
May 22, 2004

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After all that talk about food yesterday I only ate a small pork pie and drank 8 beers in the evening, feel absolutely awful this morning. Yearning for a plate of emu meatballs and some reverse osmosis coca cola.

Isle of Wight is the test bed for the governments new 'track and trace' app.

quote:

A new contact-tracing app for managing the coronavirus outbreak will be piloted on the Isle of Wight this week, the health secretary has confirmed, despite concerns its centralised setup carries privacy risks and will reduce uptake.

App Mancock said there had been “huge enthusiasm” on the island off the south coast of England for the idea of trying out the new app, which will alert users if they have been close to someone with the Covid-19 virus.

Having stopped trying to track every case back in March, when the virus began spreading freely in the population, the government is now recruiting what the health secretary called an “army” of human contact tracers. These will work alongside the new app, in a bid to establish how and where the disease is spreading.

Most of the population of the Isle of Wight are over the age of 50, so it'd be interesting to see how many people have smartphones and general usage of the government app. Also, 'human contact tracers' sounds like a rubbish blade runner.

justcola
May 22, 2004

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CGI Stardust posted:

Labour has released the 7 Core Principles by which it will provide good, unifying opposition during the crisis



Loving the randomly allocated colour coded boxes and weird alignment of the numbers

TACD posted:

lol are they still planning to ignore the API Apple and Google came up with for this specific situation in favour of their own one that a) runs down the battery, b) isn’t anonymous and c) doesn’t work?

they were saying you have to leave Bluetooth on all day but apparently the app will save your battery life!

My experience on public sector IT projects is that it never works properly, 4 people know how it works but won't tell anyone and it costs ten times as much as anything else.

justcola
May 22, 2004

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It's just bullshit anyway, way too wordy and having stuff in about the vaccine or winter flu is just so they can ask some question in PMQ in a few months saying 'the opposition have been asking about this' then it'll just get batted to one side.

Something about UBI, ensuring parents can home school properly, protecting people in violent relationships, making sure people have access to food or distributing PPE before we all go back to work would have been something? Otherwise these are just neutral statements about consensus.

justcola
May 22, 2004

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I guess when they said Keir was going to be forensic they were thinking about colour coded charts and dirt_texture02.png applied to the background of official documents.

Where I live you'd have thought lockdown had lifted anyway. People sat in parks and outside pubs smoking fags and drinking cans, families parking cars up and running round, shops are starting to reopen. I live in a wee town in West Yorkshire but hearing similar stuff elsewhere.

justcola
May 22, 2004

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crispix posted:

Reminded me more of



God I forgot how bad the Ed Stone was. That big metal frame just looming like a guillotine :cripes:

For some reason I always thought it was just shown in front of a set of swings, never got that that was the frame for it.

Just had a flashback to some night recently where I accidentally started watching Have I Got News For You during lockdown. If you thought it was poo poo before then, boy howdy, listen in wonder as jokes about Jeremy Corbyn are uttered into a void without any tittering. Stand with your mouth and other orifices agape in amazement as they show YouTube videos from 5 years ago to no audience reaction whatsoever. Bliss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r72G-vD1Rnw

justcola
May 22, 2004

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Might as well face it, you're addicted to fur-lough

If you're on mimimum wage above 25 the reduction would mean you have £732.20 a month coming in. If you're 18-20 you'd be getting £541 a month on the new rate. If people are working from home whilst under furlough I don't see how they can say you'd only be paid 60% of your wage, though I'm sure they'll wrangle it. Shame the country just loves the boot as stuff like this might piss people off.

NotJustANumber99 posted:

I honestly just think is weird how cross you all are with the BBC. Like you get to be smarter than the people that tell everyone what to think... Well done?

You could say that about any organisation... Well done?

justcola
May 22, 2004

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Ash Crimson posted:

I don't know if it's the same for everyone, but my employer stated i can't get paid for another job whilst recieving furlough so wtf am i supposed to do to make up the money lost when it's decreased to 60%?

Your employer is lying to you, you can have multiple jobs and be furloughed (same as if I had 2 part time jobs, thats alright) plus - how they going to know?

justcola
May 22, 2004

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XMNN posted:

I think based on the axes that the red line represents the official death toll up to the 4th of May (29,427 announced yesterday would put it over the Italy line) and the circle is the number of people who have died after testing positive by the 5th of May.

why those numbers are different, why they haven't drawn the lines up to the 5th, and why it's not better explained in a key or caption, are another set of questions

Terrible graph. Wouldn't even hand that into a teacher when I was 8. Media are really bending over themselves to not say how many deaths there are - they shouldn't be too worried as all the gammons just say more die of winter flu every year, let's AV IT EY LADS, LOIK DARWIN INNIT?

justcola
May 22, 2004

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You're all addicted...to socialism

I know this country has a real masochistic streak but even this is going a bit far. Everyone I know on furlough is just hanging on by their fingernails really, losing an additional quarter of your wage would lead to rents not being paid, food not being bought, anything getting done. And no, we can't all loving work at Asda.

justcola
May 22, 2004

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Red Oktober posted:

I think it'll take a good minute to get there though. Riots generally come out of existing protests, and if people are inside and not joining up for a protest it's hard to see how a riot will start.

People would love the excuse to get out there. Last major riot we had across the country started at a funeral in London, only takes a wee spark to set everyone off. I reckon that's the true risk they're trying to play against, how to get the economy started again without the country smashing everything to bits.

Those chill days of the 2011 riots, occupy movement having tents up in cities here and there, Moves Like Jagger played on every bad radio from here to eternity. I'm like one of those FBPE people but instead of the olympics, an eternal riot.

justcola
May 22, 2004

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Just went for a walk and thought I'd start counting people I saw, gave up at 20 before I was 5 minutes away from my house.

Lockdown's over lads! Get cans in! Waaaaaay

goddamnedtwisto posted:


That's the only reason I knew who he was before HIGNFY et. al. made him BORIS LEGERND - he was literally the only non-service staff member there to actually introduce himself to me in the couple of months I worked there., on like my second or third day. I know it's all an act, but gently caress me it's a really convincing one, and I can see why people fall for it.

eee you kept that quiet ey. I do like hearing stories about public figures though, they seem to have this certain charisma that gets to people. I've met Andy Burnham and a few other MPs and most had it. Weird.

justcola
May 22, 2004

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Public asked to increase their chance of skin cancer and be attacked by wasps in bank holiday shocker

The Gurndbain posted:

Picnics, sunbathing and unlimited rambles will be among the first activities to be allowed when the lockdown loosens, it emerged on Wednesday, after Boris Johnson announced that restrictions would begin to ease from Monday.

With the stringent restrictions due to be reviewed on Thursday – and details to be announced on Sunday – the prime minister is expected to change the rules so that people would be able to leave the house repeatedly in a single day, so long as they keep a safe distance from anyone from outside their household.

Government Twitter accounts meanwhile began broadcasting a new, more nuanced message on Wednesday – “Stay Safe, Save Lives” – with the stark “Stay Home, Save Lives” slogan set to be ditched.

..

Significant changes in schools are also expected, with teachers and unions expecting that Johnson will on Sunday confirm the 1 June start date for schools to reopen, beginning with children aged 10 and 11 in year six.

Other primary year groups are expected to follow shortly after, and then for years 10 and 12 – the first years for GCSE and A-level courses respectively – to also return to secondary schools.

..

Other measures still under consideration include the creation of social “bubbles”, allowing households to mix with a limited number of others. Downing Street has not ruled out this option – though some ministers are sceptical about how it could be enforced in practice.

One Whitehall source warned that if people failed to stick to the rules carefully, it could lead to “a catastrophic epidemiological demonstration of the rule of six degrees of separation”.

..

Chair of the Conservative backbench 1922 committee, Graham Brady, has called for the lifting of “arbitrary rules and limitations on freedom as quickly as possible” and suggested the public had been “a little too willing to stay at home”.

lol

justcola
May 22, 2004

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By this time next clap, lockdown will be pretty much done I think. It'll be an interesting one to spin as I think it more or less went

- What is the most cost effective response to a pandemic? Say 'herd immunity', which means gently caress all
- Public complain and that paper came out
- Sort of a lockdown thats vague enough for people to do what they want
- People start doing what they want because either thousands are dying anyway and lockdown isn't doing anything, or there's no coronavirus because I haven't seen it
- Carnage

I'm not sure who they'll spin it against though as there's no class of people to blame in particular or weaker group to bully - it'll just be 'the nation brought it on itself' or some nonsense and by being lead to think we're complicit nothing will come of it. (I'm sure the media will find a marginalised group to blame though)

justcola
May 22, 2004

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With the clapping on my street last night they ended with chants of 'test test test' and something about ppe (I was drunk) so that was nicer to hear than just a racket. Keeps getting longer and longer though.

I was going to use the great social barometer of Facebook to see who's blaming who but everyone's just gushing about their relatives who fought in the war and doing a 30-day song challenge of awful music. (no real change then)

justcola
May 22, 2004

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Bloodly posted:

I don't especially think the lockdown is easing off. But bills still must be paid, sometimes by hand, and supplies must still be bought.

There's a definite change round here. Just a few weeks ago it was like a ghost town and I'd barely see 5 people if I went out. Now I'm seeing about ten times that, a few might move if walking on a narrow pavement but most just don't seem to give a gently caress any more (especially middle aged blokes) - a street nearby is having a party I got invited to via a hand-written leaflet pushed through my door.

If all this was a zombie film we'd be about 3rd or 4th in the franchise where people no longer take zombies seriously and use them as fairground attractions or try and train them to speak just before it all goes tits up.

justcola
May 22, 2004

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I only realised today I was always told it was 'Victory over Europe' Day so there you go.

My pal who works in a hospital has been telling me some awful stuff, wish I hadn't heard some of it really. Are there support groups for people who work in the NHS I can point him toward?

justcola
May 22, 2004

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I was talking to my neighbour yesterday and think he's totally gone off the deep end. Usually he's pretty lefty and reasonable, but within 5 minutes he was ranting about watching a documentary that was saying the Rothchilds had funded every major war last century and now they're moving onto generating pandemics to replace us all with robots or something. He also wanted to hug me because the government doesn't want us to touch each other as a way of making us more divided and coronavirus didn't exist. He started talking about Q but I couldn't be arsed by that point.

justcola
May 22, 2004

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I assume he was talking about the 4chan Q, sort of like a mystic meg for racists, though I just get pissed off when people start going on about such bollocks.

The effects the virus is having on groups of people is starting to get to me a bit, all the anti-vax nonsense, conspiracies, VE day parties and wilful ignorance. Is this what people are like?

e: I mean, it's just a small majority thats amplified through media, but how quickly people have turned has been strange to see.

justcola fucked around with this message at 14:30 on May 10, 2020

justcola
May 22, 2004

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Reaching Theresa May levels of trying to please everybody and therefore no-one.

justcola
May 22, 2004

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https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1259738336295608320?s=20

Piers is sticking his oar in too. If morning tv is anti-government then they've really hosed it.

XMNN posted:

Fair enough, but surely how practical the law is to enforce (if we're assuming the workplace definitely is unsafe and a tribunal would find that) shouldn't affect whether you'd support a union telling it's members to follow it or not?

I can't come in today and if you make me, that is blackmail, conspiracy to commit kidnapping and attempted murder. I'll call the police!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lfInFVPkQs

justcola
May 22, 2004

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a young Starmer reading The Warlock of Firetop Mountain, keeping his finger wedged on the last page as he makes bad choice after bad choice. His mother comes in to find her 20 year old son weeping at the choose-your-own-adventure book.
"Keir, what's wrong?"
"Whatever choice I make just turns out bad."
"Life is like that sometimes. You just have to make a decision and stick with it." she said. The young Keir bellows in anguish, throwing the book across the room before holding his wet face with both hands.
"No mother, no. There has to be another way. Maybe...maybe meeting in the middle." he says. His mother laughs.
"Oh Keir, I hope you never become the leader of the opposition during a global pandemic, that sort of wooly thinking will do more harm than good. I should know, I'm a nurse."
The young man spits into his own hands in frustration. Didn't she know that life was just an endless greyness? There was no such thing as being right, only correct.

justcola
May 22, 2004

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Josef bugman posted:

I understand that but, the solid belief that ultimately there has to be a solution, and I just can't find out what it is, is partially why a lot of people are sad and angry. I should know, I'm one.

Nobody really knows what the solution is, but I'd expect the leader of the opposition to take more of a stand than sort of back-up government advice that's purposefully vague. Increased pay for key workers, UBI, anything would do. If Philip Scofield is having a bigger do at Boris than the leader of the Labour party its not looking rosy for the next few years.

justcola
May 22, 2004

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quote:

Face-coverings
As more people return to work, there will be more movement outside people's immediate household. This increased mobility means the Government is now advising that people should aim to wear a face-covering in enclosed spaces where social distancing is not always possible and they come into contact with others that they do not normally meet, for example on public transport or in some shops. Homemade cloth face-coverings can help reduce the risk of transmission in some circumstances.
Face-coverings are not intended to help the wearer, but to protect against inadvertent transmission of the disease to others if you have it asymptomatically. A face covering is not the same as a facemask such as the surgical masks or respirators used as part of personal protective equipment by healthcare and other workers. These supplies must continue to be reserved for those who need it.

They can't be arsed giving us all face masks so just wear a scarf that will act as a sort of sponge instead

justcola
May 22, 2004

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Gonzo McFee posted:

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1260465038881685505

Mysteriously the Government's Jump in the pool but don't get wet directive got people wet

When I see stuff like this it reminds me of the show Chernobyl where people are sticking their heads over the chimney or kicking radioactive rocks about in sandals. When I was watching it I was like 'hurr, thatd never happen nowadays' - I'm now convinced if that happened in this country people would be using the nuclear core as a BBQ and saying the levels of radiation are just the same as what aeroplane cabin crew experience in a year and actually it's good for you.

justcola
May 22, 2004

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Start getting that toilet paper in now, you'll thank me in the 'summer of the dirty arse' as it will come to be known.

justcola
May 22, 2004

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Crazy how busy its gotten this week, think people round here have just thought 'seems over, let's go' as the town centre is packed

Sanford posted:

I am become a person who just asks the Internet a thing because thinking about it is too hard (and my wife and I disagree). How long should I keep paying our childminder and cleaner I know for? We've not used either since last week of March. I am still media-free so I've literally no idea what support they are getting, and it feels both rude and basically cuntish to ask. They are both full-time self-employed, and continuing to not work for the forseeable future.

Ask them? Self employed folk are meant to be getting assistance next month anyway, but good not to chuck a comrade under a bus if its within your means.

e:

quote:

Again, none of this was particularly surprising. But Starmer has only appeared at four PMQs, and only two against Johnson, and already he has established mastership of the arena. That’s a notable achievement so early in his time as opposition leader.

:barf:

justcola fucked around with this message at 13:52 on May 13, 2020

justcola
May 22, 2004

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Sanford posted:

Sorry to be a pest, any details on this? It is the point upon which the dispute with my wife rests. I've paid the cleaner in full and the childminder 50% up to the end of June.


I'm missing a subtext here, I'm sure. Do you want me to ask him anything? He is pretty senior and hosed off enough right now to answer questions.

Sure: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52053914 / https://www.gov.uk/guidance/claim-a-grant-through-the-coronavirus-covid-19-self-employment-income-support-scheme

If they've been registered self employed for over a year and have been paying tax they'll get the equivalent of furlough pay (80% up to £2500) across 3 months in a single taxable payment

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justcola
May 22, 2004

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I had assumed I was eligible for a self-employment grant but after just checking, nope

https://www.tax.service.gov.uk/self-employment-support/enter-unique-taxpayer-reference

I was both part-time employed and self-employed last year and the latter barely made any money, I was hoping my pt work might bolster my self-employed stuff but guess not. I also haven't been getting any UC as still getting paid from contracts from months ago, though I'm still getting paid I guess.

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