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 Axiom Team Orange plots here Current members: oldskool Big Scary Owl Kangra oscarthewilde No peeking in the observer or Grey thread! Rules reminder: SelenicMartian posted:Here's a brief summary of the rules, and some examples in a video I made: The first turn is Grey's, working from the starting position. We'll try 24 hours per move or earlier if a team agrees on one option.   (_) means the cube is free to move. SelenicMartian fucked around with this message at 13:17 on May 14, 2020 |
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May 13, 2020 19:12
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There's a rules gently caress-up in the video, let's consider it my personal variant of the lateral move. Read the rules below for the actual picture.
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First, we'll take the cubes... THEN THE WORLD!!!!!
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May 13, 2020 20:09
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Team Grey's made a move! GY -> O5  
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May 13, 2020 21:31
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I think we should move one of ours into the position that grey one was in before, so they can't take one of our blocks away from us! Or something I dunno Assemble team orange!
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May 13, 2020 21:41
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OZ OZ OZ OY OY OY! Seems to me we can't block to prevent them taking the cube, since they can go either to G4 or G5. What I think we should do is go over the edge to G1. Then they cannot move back to their own side. We'd be safe on G1, and completely control G4 & G5. (Note that they can't go to G5-W, either, since we could win diagonally with our other piece).
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May 13, 2020 22:29
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Kangra posted:OZ OZ OZ yeah, I like OZ -> G1 after that I expect them to move the G4 cube but who knows
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May 13, 2020 23:54
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Anyone else in favour of this or other moves? Let's have a team agreement. Also, Grey suggested a rule to prevent stalling: use the last move suggested if 24 hours expire.
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May 14, 2020 05:47
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I agree with OZ -> G1, seems like a better idea.
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May 14, 2020 08:04
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  OK, passing it on to Grey.
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May 14, 2020 13:18
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A cube moves. G4->G5 
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May 15, 2020 12:53
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ok so if I am interpreting things correctly at 8am on a Friday we can't move a sceptre without losing and there's only one cube we can move that didn't just move should we move O6 atop G1? but how should we rotate it?
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May 15, 2020 13:33
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Well, we could move OY-O1 but that doesn't seem to be of much use. I think we can put O6 on top of G1 with bump either S or U. I kind of like it long term, but on the other hand we wouldn't be able to capture G1 that way. Alternately, we put O6 on the West side of G2, bump facing U. This would probably lead to 3.GZ-G3 OZ-G5 or 3.GY-G5(xO5) OZ-O6(xG1) and it seems okay. e: Just in case we run into a deadline, my official move suggestion is O6-G2(W), bump UP. Kangra fucked around with this message at 02:34 on May 16, 2020 |
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May 15, 2020 16:41
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And done. 
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May 16, 2020 13:09
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Guess what! Another turn! 
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May 16, 2020 19:45
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I was thinking OZ -> G5 diagonally, but I'm curious what the rest of the team thinks!
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May 16, 2020 20:28
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Pretty sure that's our best move, too. At least I can't see anything better. OZ-G5 forces them to move cube G4 e: (nm, they can also move the scepter to G4). G4 on to O3 limits our options but G4 back on G1 prevents the capture and is probably the more likely play. Either way we're probably forced to play OZ back to G1. I think if we get another option we take it. Grey then captures our cube by moving to G4(wherever it is) or G6(?). We'd probably be looking to move a cube at that point (at minimum O2 would be free).
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May 16, 2020 21:32
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OZ - G5 was my immediate thought as well, since we can threaten them too
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May 17, 2020 00:54
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Since everyone wants this 
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May 17, 2020 07:17
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A reversal! A reversal! 
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May 17, 2020 20:24
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Okay, I was thinking earlier that we'd have to go back to G1 and they capture our cube, but now I think that's too passive. What I propose is a plan to lock down the enemy cubes. We play O6-G5 for now. Then, if they capture our cube with a move to G4, we put O2 on top of G6. Now their cubes are fully blocked off, and since we maintain control of G5, they can't get on to them to capture them that easily. Their pieces would be separated from each other and with cube moves blocked, I think we'll be able to trap them, or at least take control of the game. I haven't yet looked deeply at whether O2-G6 leads to a loss if they make a different move instead of GY-G4, though.
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May 17, 2020 20:52
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I'm OK with O6->G5 The important thing is something has to end up on G5 this move or we lose.
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May 17, 2020 21:53
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OK 
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May 18, 2020 20:07
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Not sure if that was any good, because I keep forgetting about bump directions and all the cube move variations. I'm thinking this goes G6-O3 OZ-G1 GZ-G5 but it's not worth worrying about it when there are a lot of ways it could actually go.
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May 18, 2020 20:30
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Oh, no! They killed O5! 
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May 19, 2020 05:40
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Still O2 -> G6, I presume, but which way to put the domes?
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May 19, 2020 05:58
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Dome west. We must block GZ from coming up and over. This limits their moves to GZ-G6 and GY-G4 (on the side, probably N). Also GZ can come around the side, forgot about that. Kangra fucked around with this message at 14:17 on May 19, 2020 |
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May 19, 2020 14:13
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We want to put the cube on top of G6 facing west, but may want to consider the other option here, too. O3 on G6 looks like a draw or maybe could convert to a win? (O3-G6(W), GY-G4 threatening G5, OZ-O2, GY-G1, OY on top of O3). Then GY is safe but stuck, GZ can move back and forth and we'd have to figure out some way to maybe get to GY. In that sequence Grey can get cube G4 free and move it somewhere, and we'd also have a cube free if OY gets to move, so it might end up more complicated. The line I'm seeing for O2-G6 is O2-G6(W), GY-G4N again threatening G5; this time we move GY to G2 on 'our' side. Then GY goes to O3, we put OY on top again, and it's a similar situation. Any thoughts on which seems better? I feel like O2 might give us better chances but I sense it also allows Grey to do more with a G4 cube move.
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May 19, 2020 21:28
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Okay, I should probably edit but I'm trying to avoid editing posts when we have to make moves on a timeline. I'm firmly in favor of O2-G6(dome W). If we get GY on O3 and can prevent a G4 move from being useful, it'll be a lot easier for us to move O4 to where O2 was and win that way. I don't see as easy a route if we move O3.
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May 19, 2020 21:37
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Allright. 
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May 20, 2020 05:38
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You're not going to like this: 
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May 20, 2020 14:13
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I think OZ-G2, and if we're lucky, we might get to move OY soon!
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May 20, 2020 18:24
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Our other option is OZ-G6. Not sure which is better here. Rules question: Is capturing mandatory? That is, if a piece moves in such a way that it could capture a cube, is it required that the cube be removed?
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May 20, 2020 18:46
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Kangra posted:Rules question: Is capturing mandatory? That is, if a piece moves in such a way that it could capture a cube, is it required that the cube be removed?
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May 20, 2020 19:19
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Not sure how many people are still active. I'll go for OZ-G2 because I think it probably ends the game sooner.
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May 21, 2020 02:48
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Yeah I'm OK with OZ->G2
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May 21, 2020 03:12
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Maybe team orange needs raw recruits? 
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May 21, 2020 07:02
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They're after O6! 
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May 21, 2020 16:17
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Probably don't want to lose another one. O3 on top of O6, bump East is what I'm thinking.
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May 21, 2020 17:00
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I was thinking move O2 on top of O3. If Grey wants to eliminate O6 their only option is moving down to G5, and the removal of O6 would open up OY diagonally on top of G5 for the victory. If they don't get rid of O6, moving GY is limited to rotating around O6 (we can move up OZ onto O6 & win) or the other side of G5 (OZ up to G5 & win). G4 is the only cube they could move, and GZ doesn't have very many good options either (G5 loses, G6 opens us up to move O2 & potentially fork, G3 gives us OY-O4 facing south as a direct block....) I probably missed something obvious so please tear this apart
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May 22, 2020 03:35
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I like the idea in it, but I think it limits our own options too much. The big flaw to playing it right now is that it frees G6, and in fact if they put G6 on top of the O2 stack, we'd have no cube moves, and be forced to make a move a scepter and that'd lose O6. (Unless I missed something - but if OZ moves away GY can take its spot, and if OY moves away we lose the capture on top of G5). My idea with O3 on top is to allow OY to move on to O2. It's not very definite though, since they have some options, but the idea is to move OY on to O4(S), forcing GZ to move or a G4 relocation. Then get O3 on top of O4 if GY is still on O6, and we can get OY on the south end of O2, covering any moves on to the top pieces. The main flaw is that this lets GY escape to G1, so it's not a solid win; it would just keep O6 safe. What I would hope is that it could allow for us to capture G4 or G1 with OZ, but there's no clear way to force that either.
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May 22, 2020 04:53
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