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I should make it clear that I don't have a good way to force the moves that get OY to O2. The more I look at it the less likely it is. I would be open to O2 on O3 if it didn't free G6, so maybe if we can see some way around that, we do it (or play it later). O3 on O6 is sort of delaying; it doesn't give us anything new but doesn't leave us any weaker either.
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# ? May 22, 2020 05:02 |
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# ? May 9, 2024 16:42 |
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I'm good with O3->O6(dome east) if it comes down to it, I just worry about creating an ever-taller tower trying to avoid losing cubes.
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# ? May 22, 2020 05:05 |
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OK, let's count you two as the majority.
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# ? May 22, 2020 11:05 |
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They're coming for you from below!
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# ? May 22, 2020 17:31 |
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So we've got two options: OY-O4(S) and OY-O2. The first lets GY move to O2(S) and then it'd be a back-and-forth with OZ and GY, since we now control G5. The second maybe gives us more options with OZ since OY mostly keeps GY and GZ in check. They may be planning something more with a cube drop and GZ, though. I haven't really looked at all the possibilities there.
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# ? May 22, 2020 18:00 |
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Rules question: It's illegal to have a cube 'trapping' a scepter by interfering with its clearance. But that does not restrict scepters themselves, or does it? Example: Suppose on this board OZ was on O1-N. You could not then place a cube next to G1 (i.e. where O3 just was). But you could place a scepter in G1-E, right?
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# ? May 22, 2020 18:09 |
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It's not forbidden and they would fit so it would be OK. The tip of one sceptre fits into the waist of the other.
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# ? May 22, 2020 19:51 |
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I think we have to go with OY -> O2(E)
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# ? May 23, 2020 01:50 |
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I concur.
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# ? May 23, 2020 02:07 |
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Done.
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# ? May 23, 2020 06:48 |
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G4 creeps nearer.
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# ? May 24, 2020 06:48 |
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I'm thinking OZ-G5. This threatens a move around to G6, forcing GY to move off O6. Or they end up wasting their last move by putting G4 to block it.
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# ? May 24, 2020 19:18 |
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I like OZ->G5
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# ? May 24, 2020 20:23 |
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And it's done.
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# ? May 25, 2020 05:01 |
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GZ is coming to join in on the fun.
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# ? May 26, 2020 05:57 |
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A bit unexpected, but it seems they really want to prevent O4 from being moved. OZ-G6, GY-G2, OZ-G5 seems like the safest sequence. I think after that we'd go to G1.
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# ? May 26, 2020 06:58 |
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I feel the reply will come soon.
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# ? May 27, 2020 04:46 |
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OK, they've figured out the one move. Now what?
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# ? May 27, 2020 06:37 |
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I don't see a better move than OZ->G5(E). Once in that position, they don't have a lot of ways to threaten us. I could be overlooking something, though.
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# ? May 27, 2020 15:32 |
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It doesn't really give us any way to threaten them, either, but they've played a solid game thus far so that's not surprising. OZ->G5(E) works.
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# ? May 28, 2020 01:43 |
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Yeah, at this point there could easily be a draw, although again there may be ways out of it that I don't know.
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# ? May 28, 2020 04:03 |
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You've got so many free cubes it's getting silly.
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# ? May 28, 2020 05:41 |
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They're coming round the back!
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# ? May 29, 2020 05:47 |
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OZ has to move, but to where? G6 would be my choice, because we can move the O2 cube if we're ever out of scepter check & open up removing G6 once we get off of it. Also G1 is isolated & that seems less than ideal.
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# ? May 29, 2020 06:33 |
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Yeah, I don't see G1 as being better for us. Go with OZ->G6. It's kind of a repeat position if they move back, but I think some of the alternative moves we can make may be interesting.
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# ? May 29, 2020 13:54 |
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So be it.
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# ? May 29, 2020 15:13 |
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They've moved their other cube!
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# ? May 30, 2020 06:34 |
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OY is free to move now, but I actually kind of like moving O3 down to block GZ (O3-O1 bump S). That should slow them up while we start moving OY off O2. Also I feel dumb for forgetting that G2 has the bump on the N end; I thought we could make a threat down the side once OY was free to reposition.
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# ? May 30, 2020 07:25 |
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Done.
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# ? May 31, 2020 06:41 |
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They're doing something! And a behind-the-wall supplement
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# ? Jun 1, 2020 07:38 |
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I kind of want to move O2 to O6, but that probably leads to GY-O3 and it's difficult to progress from there. if instead we go O2-G1, GZ is free to move to G5, and even if we end up capturing a cube we could be worse off positionally. Preferably I'd like a plan to trap them, but I don't know which move is better for that.
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# ? Jun 1, 2020 18:38 |
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Forced to make a choice, I'd go with OY-G1(up) since it's the more interesting option.
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# ? Jun 2, 2020 04:40 |
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Let's see where that goes.
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# ? Jun 2, 2020 08:19 |
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They're doing it again!
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# ? Jun 3, 2020 05:30 |
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OY-O2(E) GY has to move, or else OY-O6 wins for us. GY-G5(any) gives us access to another of G5's sides with a sceptre; we win. GY-O6(any) gives us another of O6's sides; we win. GY-G2 sticks their sceptres in places they can't move without being eliminated. I think. It's tough to see where the domes are on the bottom of the tower. If I'm right, their only option will be to shuffle cubes, and with O3 & O4 to cover G4 and G5 we have enough cubes to top theirs so they can't move cubes, have to move a sceptre where we can take it and win. Somebody fact check me.
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# ? Jun 3, 2020 06:39 |
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GY-G2 seems like a pretty safe spot for them, since they can hop on to O1 (and we couldn't expose O4 easily). GZ can also come around to G4 once G1 is gone. I was expecting if they played to O6 to put O2 on top of O6, giving us the extra cube out of the trade. Either they go to O2 and we get both G1 and G6, or they do another move (like GZ-G5 to prevent us from taking G6) and we can take G1. It's not totally to our advantage, since GZ-G5 followed by GY-O6S forces OZ to run down to G3, but I think we're not as bad off since we have better control of the cubes.
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# ? Jun 3, 2020 08:39 |
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After more thought, I realized I forgot that O2 actually has two bumps. If we play it on top of O6 it traps GY on their side of the wall, so they would not be able to move up on it. As pointed out, they can't move anywhere on O6 so GY cannot get to another side or threaten G6. Then they're in danger of losing since OZ is coming down to G2 after capturing G1. It'd probably mean moving G4 to get out of it, and we can possibly take both G1 and G6 (G4 on top of G6 is a move they might make, but we can still keep chasing GY). Much more in favor of O2->O6(bump W) now.
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# ? Jun 3, 2020 14:44 |
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OK, let's roll with this. I want to see the reaction.
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# ? Jun 3, 2020 19:32 |
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They've found a move!
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# ? Jun 4, 2020 20:37 |
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# ? May 9, 2024 16:42 |
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Are we allowed to go OY-G6(top)?
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# ? Jun 4, 2020 21:37 |