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Charliegrs
Aug 10, 2009

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Yeah, the police are literally an occupying army for all intents and purposes. That's how they see themselves, that's how they're trained, that's how they operate, and any attempt at oversight is seen as enemy action to be violently suppressed.

You cannot reform this.

The police in my area have at least one cop car in camouflage:


It's supposed to be "to honor the troops" or some poo poo but yeah we all know the real reason.

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Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.
The white cop involved in the murder in Memphis has been put on paid leave and not fired and also good luck finding his picture.

Extremely coincidental I'm sure.

but I've helpfully attached

https://www.thedailybeast.com/memphis-police-officer-preston-hemphill-disciplined-over-tyre-nichols-death

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Jaxyon posted:

The white cop involved in the murder in Memphis has been put on paid leave and not fired and also good luck finding his picture.

Extremely coincidental I'm sure.

but I've helpfully attached

https://www.thedailybeast.com/memphis-police-officer-preston-hemphill-disciplined-over-tyre-nichols-death



The amazing thing is there was a whole bunch of commentary about "if the cops were white, would they have been fired and charged that quickly?" and they assured everyone, no, this is so egregious that this would've happened regardless of the cops' skin colour, and then... this happens. One might have reasonably thought they would not do this exact thing, simply because everyone said they would and it would be clever to "prove them wrong", but the racism runs so deep that of course they do it anyway.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

On leave to spend more time with his podcast one assumes.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/31/anthony-lowe-police-killing-amputee-huntington-park

quote:

A southern California police department is facing national backlash after footage revealed that officers fatally shot a double amputee and wheelchair user who appeared to be hobbling away on the ground before he was killed.

Anthony Lowe, 36, was killed by officers in Huntington Park, a city in southern Los Angeles county, last Thursday. Cellphone footage captured part of the incident, showing Lowe on a sidewalk next to his wheelchair appearing to try to flee as two officers approach him with weapons drawn. More police cars arrived as the officers followed Lowe, who seemed to be limping away, but the video did not capture the shooting.

Every day is a new low for this poo poo country

Iamgoofball
Jul 1, 2015

The pigs could execute handcuffed toddlers on live television in 4K from 3 different angles and we'd never consider even the most minor police reform in this country.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Demon cracker nation

Charliegrs
Aug 10, 2009

Iamgoofball posted:

The pigs could execute handcuffed toddlers on live television in 4K from 3 different angles and we'd never consider even the most minor police reform in this country.

"We" is not totally accurate. A small group of people want big changes to policing now. A larger group wants to pay lip service to police reform but thinks the only way to do that is to give them more money? :wtc: And a really large group of people (chuds) think the cops aren't going far enough with their bloodlust.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.
Americans watching Avatar: The Last Airbender

"putting people in a freezing jail cell is a cruelty that only a comically evil despot like the Fire Lord could dream up:

Americans on police

"Back the boys in blue!"

https://twitter.com/aniceburrito/status/1625545224209547270

OgNar
Oct 26, 2002

They tapdance not, neither do they fart
A former Orange County Sheriff’s Department deputy was charged after allegedly showing pornographic videos to teenage girls while working as a school resource officer in Mission Viejo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W2yRLnc4iQ


Mother calls the local police station to make a report.
Deputy they send out was the same guy, even though (it seems) she stated who it was, mother doesnt realize this and gives him all the info he asked for.


https://twitter.com/KTLA/status/1626729158691926016

OgNar
Oct 26, 2002

They tapdance not, neither do they fart
https://www.texastribune.org/2023/01/13/constitutional-sheriffs-texas/

"Some 50 Texas sheriffs and numerous elected officials have attended trainings on the unsupported notion that sheriffs can single-handedly overrule state and federal law. The Texas Commission on Law Enforcement, which offered state peace officers credit for the seminars, is now investigating."



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVvvXJ_VuuY

OgNar
Oct 26, 2002

They tapdance not, neither do they fart
e: Other one turned out to be old
I'll throw this one in instead

https://minnesotareformer.com/2023/03/14/woman-says-mpd-officer-told-her-black-lives-matter-is-a-terrorist-organization/
Woman says MPD officer told her Black Lives Matter is a terrorist organization
More than two years after Jacqueline Bilek filed a complaint about it, Scot Kaiser still works for MPD


"Four months after Derek Chauvin pressed his knee into George Floyd’s neck, suffocating him on the pavement outside Cup Foods, Jacqueline Bilek called the Minneapolis Police Department about a man who was putting fliers on windshields condemning Black Lives Matter.

Bilek called the 5th precinct police station to see if the man was dangerous, because she’d heard he was having mental health problems.

Officer* Scot Kaiser answered the phone. After hearing her story, Kaiser launched into his own diatribe about the activist group, Bilek said, calling Black Lives Matter a terrorist group that “we will wipe off the face of the Earth.”

“Excuse me?” Bilek replied.

He repeated himself.

She said she didn’t think that was appropriate and asked to speak to his supervisor.

He laughed, she said, and refused to transfer her or take down her contact information.

“And then with all due arrogance, he goes, ‘You know what? I’ve got the feeling you are going to file a complaint, and so let me spell my last name so you get it correctly and give you my badge number, so nothing’s wrong,’” Bilek said.

She called back later, but Kaiser answered again and wouldn’t transfer the call, she said. "

OgNar fucked around with this message at 04:39 on Mar 16, 2023

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.
Police dogs can have a little minorty child, as a treat:

https://www.insider.com/louisville-police-officer-unleashed-dog-on-black-teen-doj-2023-3

quote:

"The officer was leading his dog to search for a person suspected of a home invasion. After searching for several minutes, the officer saw the teenager lying on the ground, face down in the grass," the Justice Department wrote in its report. "Immediately after noticing the teen, the officer deployed his dog off-leash — without giving any warning — and ordered the dog to bite the teen at least seven times."


During the encounter, the teen remained prone and pleaded, "OK! OkK Help! Get the dog, please!" the report stated, as officers continued to stand over him and shout orders for about 30 seconds "while the dog gnawed on his arm."

"At one point, an officer shouted, 'Stop fighting my dog!' despite video showing the teen lying still with one arm behind his back and the other arm in the dog's mouth," according to the report.

ACAB includes police dogs, though honestly the piece of poo poo cop was the reason this happened.

DandyLion
Jun 24, 2010
disrespectul Deciever

Jaxyon posted:

Police dogs can have a little minorty child, as a treat:

https://www.insider.com/louisville-police-officer-unleashed-dog-on-black-teen-doj-2023-3

ACAB includes police dogs, though honestly the piece of poo poo cop was the reason this happened.

Lol Louisville PD is so comically evil you got neighborhoods appealing to the gangs to protect them.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

DandyLion posted:

Lol Louisville PD is so comically evil you got neighborhoods appealing to the gangs to protect them.

That's the traditional origin of gangs, yes.

Police and prison guards are at fault for basically all criminal gangs.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013



OgNar
Oct 26, 2002

They tapdance not, neither do they fart


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/30/california-police-union-executive-charged-importing-opioids

Executive director of the San Jose Police Officers Association charged with attempt to unlawfully import valeryl fentanyl
And, she was doing it from their own office.
"The executive director of a US police union has been charged with attempting to illegally import a fentanyl analogue, and has been accused of using the police union’s office to communicate with her suppliers and mail the drugs."

"The shipments — 61 in total — were mailed with manifests such as “wedding party favors” and “chocolates and sweets” but contained thousand of dollars’ worth of synthetic opioid pills such as tramadol and tapentadol."

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-03-29/san-jose-police-union-executive-director-imported-opioids-prosecutors-say

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Of course the call is coming from inside the house.

OgNar
Oct 26, 2002

They tapdance not, neither do they fart
https://www.wptv.com/news/treasure-...-lying-about-it
Fort Pierce police officer on administrative leave after hitting child with patrol car, lying about it
"Officer Erik Arellano denied the incident twice before confessing to it, according to report"

"According to a police report WPTV obtained from Port St. Lucie police, a mother called the police department concerned after her son said an officer hit him with his patrol car, while riding his bicycle near the intersection of Southwest Becker Road and Savona Boulevard in Port St. Lucie.
The child said the officer got out of his patrol car, asked the child if he was OK, offered him a Band-Aid, and then left after the child said he was all right."

"Officers said when they went to confront Arellano, they noticed his front bumper had scuffs on it. When they asked him if he was involved in an accident, officers said Arellano said no, he was not."


Its a 2 for 1 day

https://www.thedailybeast.com/sheriff-richard-mack-head-of-anti-vaxx-group-americas-frontline-doctors-accused-of-stealing-donor-money
Head of Ivermectin Group Accused of Stealing $350,000 in Donor Money
"The head of a far-right sheriff’s association has been accused of pilfering donor money from an anti-vaxxer group—but he says he was just keeping those Benjamins safe."

"Richard Mack is the founder of the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association, a far-right group with ties to the militia movement. In November, he announced a step back from the CSPOA, instead focusing his efforts on leading America’s Frontline Doctors (AFLDS), an anti-vaccine group"

"Mack’s tenure has continued in that same proud tradition. Early this month, AFLDS’s lawyer filed a police complaint accusing Mack of stealing $350,000 in donor contributions."

The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost
Man I got my EMS training at a school that also did cops, and man these kids were the dumbest motherfuckers you could imagine, so I saw how their training worked, and man they were loving hungry to get their hands on weapons and armor.

Remember one time I'm taking my lunch outside and they are running laps around the parking lot with a dog handler with the dog on a long leash, and I'm like, "uhm, is it okay for me to be here?" and teacher gives me a poo poo look and is like "yeah, okay, whatever."

Saw one of the guys moving up in the course getting their fresh recruit uniform (they were like training uniforms or something, not cops yet) preening proud as gently caress to his family that came in to see him who were all "ohh, so handsome!"

6 month course I think, minimum high school graduation needed. Motheruckers got like one day of first aid which they promptly would have dumped from their brains.

Fuckin' eh.

deoju
Jul 11, 2004

All the pieces matter.
Nap Ghost
Milwaukee cops doing a bang up job protecting a victim of domestic violence.

https://www.jsonline.com/in-depth/n...ay/69982619007/

TLDR; They blow her off. Don't follow protocols. She gets shot and killed by dirtbag abuser a week later.

OgNar
Oct 26, 2002

They tapdance not, neither do they fart
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmklyiEwy84

"Two former sheriff's deputies who were involved in a fatal shooting in Gardena appeared in federal court Thursday to face charges in a separate case alleging they falsely imprisoned a 23-year-old skateboarder in their patrol car, which crashed during a subsequent chase, injuring the man."

OgNar
Oct 26, 2002

They tapdance not, neither do they fart
https://www.ksla.com/2023/04/17/hun...ening-comments/
Hundreds gather at McCurtain Co. Sheriff’s Office to call for resignation of sheriff
A newspaper in McCurtain County, Oklahoma has released audio of county leaders discussing plans to kill one of their reporters and lynch Black people.

"A reporter at the McCurtain Gazette-News made the recording in which those involved could be heard discussing plans to kill Gazette reporters Chris and Bruce Willingham after a commission meeting March 6.

According to the newspaper, Sheriff Clardy, District 2 Commissioner Mark Jennings, Investigator Alicia Manning and Jail Administrator Larry Hendrix could be heard making light of a case involving a woman dying in a fire, among other things.

According to a transcript of the recording published by the Gazette, Jennings also made comments referencing the lynching of Black individuals."

Important (and nasty) bits of the transcript here if you dont want to read the whole thing.
https://eu.oklahoman.com/story/news/state/2023/04/17/mccurtain-county-sheriff-commissioners-audio-lynching-hiring-hitmen/70122140007/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOXRoytCkOg

OgNar fucked around with this message at 10:59 on Apr 18, 2023

OgNar
Oct 26, 2002

They tapdance not, neither do they fart
https://twitter.com/antifaoperative/status/1649077462968442880

"Christopher Caldwell, 47, former Radford Police captain, was sentenced to 60 days “suspended”, followed by a year of supervised probation. The felony “use of communications systems to facilitate certain offenses involving children,” charge was dropped."

https://www.wdbj7.com/2023/04/19/former-police-captain-sentenced-sex-with-teen/

quote:

RADFORD, Va. (WDBJ) - A former Radford Police captain has been sentenced for a sexual offense with a teenager.

In Pulaski County J&DR Court April 19, 2023, Christopher Caldwell of Pulaski was sentenced to 60 days suspended, followed by a year of supervised probation, after being found guilty of attempting to have sex with a child at least 15 years old. The incident took place in August 2022, and the charge is a criminal misdemeanor.

At the request of the Pulaski County Sheriff’s Office, Virginia State Police began looking into allegations against Caldwell last September. To avoid a county conflict of interest, Pulaski County Circuit Court then appointed an outside jurisdiction, Williamsburg, to prosecute the case.

Another charge, felony “use of communications systems to facilitate certain offenses involving children,” was dropped.

Caldwell resigned from the police department in 2022, minutes after being placed on leave, based on the allegations against him.

Szarrukin
Sep 29, 2021
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65340456 - authopsy of Manuel Paez Terán, Cop City activist shows that they were shot FIFTY SEVEN times.

OgNar
Oct 26, 2002

They tapdance not, neither do they fart
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/breonna-taylor-case-myles-cosgrove-new-job-deputy-elsewhere/
Fired Louisville officer whose shot killed Breonna Taylor hired elsewhere as deputy

"Carroll County Sheriff's Office hired Myles Cosgrove, who was fired from the Louisville department in January 2021 for violating use-of-force procedures and failing to use a body camera during the raid on Taylor's apartment.
Carroll County is northeast of Louisville, about halfway between Louisville and Cincinnati. "


"In November, the Kentucky Law Enforcement Council voted not to revoke Cosgrove's state peace officer certification. That meant he could apply for other law enforcement jobs in the state.
Miller told WLKY Cosgrove was hired as a deputy Thursday and that he was already on active duty.
When asked by the station about possible community reaction to the hiring, Miller said the department knows "there will be opinions on both sides of the equation.""

DandyLion
Jun 24, 2010
disrespectul Deciever

OgNar posted:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/breonna-taylor-case-myles-cosgrove-new-job-deputy-elsewhere/
Fired Louisville officer whose shot killed Breonna Taylor hired elsewhere as deputy

"Carroll County Sheriff's Office hired Myles Cosgrove, who was fired from the Louisville department in January 2021 for violating use-of-force procedures and failing to use a body camera during the raid on Taylor's apartment.
Carroll County is northeast of Louisville, about halfway between Louisville and Cincinnati. "


"In November, the Kentucky Law Enforcement Council voted not to revoke Cosgrove's state peace officer certification. That meant he could apply for other law enforcement jobs in the state.
Miller told WLKY Cosgrove was hired as a deputy Thursday and that he was already on active duty.
When asked by the station about possible community reaction to the hiring, Miller said the department knows "there will be opinions on both sides of the equation.""

Most police forces have like a 3 strike system whereby you're kind of unofficially allowed 3 innocent deaths before the internal systems starts working against you. Myles has 2 more freebies, so watchout bumfuck kentucklyvania town he's working in now.

Electric Wrigglies
Feb 6, 2015

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-25/property-crime-rates-reduce-gold-coast-queensland/102263798

This is not strong enough as it doesn't abolish the police but it is an interesting article on effective policing. And who woulda thunk it that policing goes beyond turning up with M16s and an attitude of superiority/being under siege?

For the record, police in QLD are also pretty much banned from high speed chases altogether and have been for a decade or more. They don't happen with any regularity because high speed chases are useless except maybe twice a year for the entire state. QLD had a single fatality from a high speed chase (the cop stopped the chase within a few hundred meters, the runaway crashed a few km later) in the same time the state of Victoria was ratcheting up a few deaths (offenders, police and bystanders) every year.

OgNar
Oct 26, 2002

They tapdance not, neither do they fart
https://twitter.com/antifaoperative/status/1651587622983069696
https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/former-new-ulm-police-investigator-sentenced-to-90-days-for-sexual-assault-of-a-child/

"Eric Gramentz, 43, was sentenced by a judge to serve another 90 days in jail, followed by 25 years of supervised probation. He’s already served a year behind bars since his arrest."






https://www.wowktv.com/news/west-vi...much-worse/amp/

"We’re finding and getting reports of sexual misconduct, including reports of improper sexual relationships with instructors. We’re getting reports of physical assaults,” Toriseva said. “Evidence of a cover-up, of fraud, not letting this become public, so to speak to oversimplify it and that is a problem too.”"

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/santa-monica-police-employee-molested-204233257.html

Santa Monica PD officer worked an afterschool program which he used to molest over two hundred victims.

People came repeatedly to the police about him. They gave him employee of the year.

They found him looking at kiddy porn at work. Nothing happened.

They gave him an undercover car to molest kids in. He also used the afterschool van, and the office he worked in.

Other officers saw him driving young boys around all the time.

There's no way the whole department wasn't covering for his poo poo.

He killed himself finally and the city is getting the poo poo sued out of it, and they're taking the money to pay for it out of affordable housing funds because of course they are.

https://smdp.com/2023/04/26/city-settles-all-uller-abuse-claims-for-a-total-of-229-8-million/

OgNar
Oct 26, 2002

They tapdance not, neither do they fart
https://abc7.com/lapd-police-officer-dies-in-custody-arrested/13286452/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgiu08GeUgA

"Paul Razo died while in LASD custody on Saturday, May 20.
Razo had been charged with eight counts of committing lewd acts with a minor by the L.A. County District Attorney's office.
He allegedly sexually assaulted at least four boys. Two of whom were his relatives."

https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/ex-lapd-officer-charged-with-child-sex-crimes-dies-in-custody-no-foul-play-suspected/

"According to the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department, the former officer, Paul Razo, 46, had a pre-existing condition and experienced a medical condition before dying at Los Angeles General Hospital. The disgraced officer was charged with eight counts of lewd acts on a child on May 5. He was arrested five days later and was scheduled to appear for his arraignment on Monday. His arraignment was delayed multiple times last week for unspecified reasons. "

How convenient.

OgNar
Oct 26, 2002

They tapdance not, neither do they fart
Dredging up the thread for some good ole down home Texas Police corruption.
Coffee City Texas, population 249 with 50 cops employed.
Seems the Chief routinely hires other cops that are on leave elsewhere for being under investigation for child abuse, spousal abuse, public drunkeness, DUIs, lying on their paperwork, and a slew of other offenses.
Then the Chief has them work very part time, just enough to be considered cops. Which allows them to work security jobs AND he has them working as bounty hunters for people with outstanding fines, they make $150 a pop.

The Chief himself had an outstanding DUI offense that he had never showed up for and never reported on the job application as Chief.
And he himself works in Houston as a security guard at an apt complex and had been recorded cussing out the local constable for not arresting someone he was having trouble with at that apt complex.

I'm fully expecting the reporter doing the story to wind up missing.

First video is the first 3 parts of the report and the second is the Chief getting suspended.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vkD-efoFos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO0ju-_66Uo

OgNar fucked around with this message at 09:31 on Sep 6, 2023

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.
gently caress those police in particular.

nudejedi
Mar 5, 2002

Shanghai Tippytap

OgNar posted:

Dredging up the thread for some good ole down home Texas Police corruption.
Coffee City Texas, population 249 with 50 cops employed.
Seems the Chief routinely hires other cops that are on leave elsewhere for being under investigation for child abuse, spousal abuse, public drunkeness, DUIs, lying on their paperwork, and a slew of other offenses.
Then the Chief has them work very part time, just enough to be considered cops. Which allows them to work security jobs AND he has them working as bounty hunters for people with outstanding fines, they make $150 a pop.

The Chief himself had an outstanding DUI offense that he had never showed up for and never reported on the job application as Chief.
And he himself works in Houston as a security guard at an apt complex and had been recorded cussing out the local constable for not arresting someone he was having trouble with at that apt complex.

I'm fully expecting the reporter doing the story to wind up missing.

First video is the first 3 parts of the report and the second is the Chief getting suspended.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vkD-efoFos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO0ju-_66Uo

Pack it up, they found The Bad Apple. Now we can all get back to blindly deepthroating boot until the heat death of the universe! :toot:
Be cool if these sorta things led to...any kind of reform of note, and not just a dead reporter and some legendary kids gloves for the filthy pig. :sigh:

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
Something tells me that his 30 day paid vacation from the people who knew exactly what he was doing and approved of him probably aren’t the best people to handle the situation!

Vahakyla
May 3, 2013
The downside here is that it isn’t a bug, it is a feature. Law enforcement being municipal and the way legislation and authority works, there’s really no recourse here. The town may do that. Your recourse is voting the mayour or council out (lmao).

This is why somewhat similar rackets are basically gone from most of Europe. Law enforcement isn’t a municipal issue anymore that the town can do with as they please.

OgNar
Oct 26, 2002

They tapdance not, neither do they fart
In a 15 minute meeting, the Coffee City council fired their Chief of Police and shut down the whole force until a new Chief is brought in to figure things out.
Seems all the cops will be investigated before being rehired.
Instead of putting out the fire, it just kind of dispersed it instead.
Unbelievable that the city council didnt know what was going on, or maybe they were enjoying all that extra money those cops were pulling in being bounty hunters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_K3RhdPyshM

OgNar fucked around with this message at 09:56 on Sep 12, 2023

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
They unequivocally knew and supported what was going on.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

FlapYoJacks posted:

They unequivocally knew and supported what was going on.

Yeah there is absolutely 0% chance they didn't know.

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Vahakyla
May 3, 2013


There's released video of Jadarrius Rose getting mauled by the police dog in Ohio.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66296988

quote:

Ohio authorities are investigating an incident in which a police officer released a dog on a black truck driver who was trying to surrender.

The incident, which took place in the town of Circleville on 4 July, began after police tried to pull over a lorry that had failed to stop for inspection.

After a chase, the driver, Jadarrius Rose, emerged with his hands up, but was bitten by the police dog.

Mr Rose, 23, told dispatchers he feared for his life during the chase.

Circleville police were responding to a request from the Ohio Highway Patrol about a vehicle that had failed to stop after inspectors noticed a missing mud flap, according to mayor Don McIlroy.

Bodycam and dashcam footage of the incident shows a lengthy chase that ended with the lorry surrounded by police officers and vehicles.


The video is, once again, somehow even worse. The State Troopers even decry it on the video, blaming the cop for being cruel, timestamped:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF-iz4cgDuw&t=263s

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