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It's a perspective thing. The most-watched cable news host on the one hand, but 4.2 million viewers represents only 1.3 per cent of Americans. https://twitter.com/mrddmia/status/1273107159987957761 https://twitter.com/RyanAFournier/status/1272600365360386054 ^^^ I mean, for me it's as simple as this guy suggests. I simply don't watch. I'd prefer that Tucker Carlson not even be on the air spewing his antagonistic sophistry, but free speech and stuff. From 2018: "According to Nielsen Media Research, the top-rated markets for the show are Ft. Myers, Florida; Knoxville, Tennessee; Jacksonville, Florida; West Palm Beach, Florida; Las Vegas, Nevada; Birmingham, Alabama; Orlando, Florida; Atlanta, Georgia; Greenville, South Carolina; and Buffalo, New York. Only half of these cities went for Trump in the 2016 election, but they are (with the exception of Birmingham and Atlanta) overwhelmingly white and middle class, with an average age of 36." That detail is from a good analytical Columbia Journalism Review article on Carlson's background. The markets are likely still the same, but his audience has grown substantially since then. https://www.cjr.org/the_profile/tucker-carlson.php "You oughta let people say what they think and you shouldn’t punish them for that, period. That’s how I feel.” --Tucker Carlson Do we have to agree with Tucker on that much, at least?
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CocoaNuts posted:"You oughta let people say what they think and you shouldn’t punish them for that, period. That’s how I feel.” he's a white supremacist, so no https://twitter.com/dril/status/831805955402776576?s=19
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Jun 17, 2020 11:15
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Tucker Carlson is pretty much the prime example of “The Paradox of Tolerance” thing where his entire White Power Hour relies on the principle free speech he so desperately wants to destroy. In short, he’s a loathsome fucker and should be taken off the air.
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Jun 17, 2020 11:24
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The argument for free speech is a practical one, but for some reason a lot of people seem to argue as if it were a moral one, which it clearly isn't.
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Jun 19, 2020 15:07
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What did I see recently about that Fucker, er, Tucker Carlson??? Oh yeah, an assertion that veracity is not a standard to be imposed on him and, hey, no big deal. https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1273771350537187328
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Jun 19, 2020 15:50
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vMK-p6-M5E This is lengthy but seems relevant. As far as Tucker himself goes, he was a dissident conservative type back in the day, but bootlicking seems to be a lot better for him.
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Jun 23, 2020 13:31
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vMK-p6-M5E In his early career (CNN's Crossfire) He was basically a NIMBY libertarian, almost Charlie Kirk esque in 2005. Then he got so owned by Jon Stewart that his show got cancelled like two days later: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE I think that kind of broke Tucker and pushed him into going full Fascist.
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DeathSandwich posted:In his early career (CNN's Crossfire) He was basically a NIMBY libertarian, almost Charlie Kirk esque in 2005. Then he got so owned by Jon Stewart that his show got cancelled like two days later: Ah. Thanks. I didn't know about the Jon Stewart encounter. It's kind of like Obama making fun of Trump during the White House Correspondents' Dinner and fueling a monster. The ugly core was already there, but Stewart and Obama unwittingly provided a flame.
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Jun 23, 2020 15:13
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OwlFancier posted:The argument for free speech is a practical one, but for some reason a lot of people seem to argue as if it were a moral one, which it clearly isn't. This point of view is completely alien to me, and I hope many others.
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Jun 23, 2020 17:05
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AlexanderCA posted:This point of view is completely alien to me, and I hope many others. I would hope that it is not alien to you because otherwise you would either have to think that specific statements have no moral component or you would have to agree with the moral component of literally every statement ever.
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Jun 23, 2020 17:09
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AlexanderCA posted:This point of view is completely alien to me, and I hope many others. one would hope the statement "calls to genocide the lesser peoples of the world should not be given open license" is uncontroversial. it is only on practical grounds that the concept can be (and, to be clear, should be) defended, because on moral grounds it is trivially clear that some speech constitutes a hazard to the populace.
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Jun 23, 2020 19:42
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He was another red state shock-jock who built up an audience by reinforcing their ignorant bigotry. The model of constantly jerking off your insecure white male audience with totally not racist rhetoric regarding how supreme they are over the "others" is his forte, so of loving course he's thriving on Fox.
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Jun 23, 2020 19:46
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Venomous posted:he's a white supremacist, so no what makes him a white supremacist?
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Selector posted:what makes him a white supremacist? assuming you're asking in good faith, this is literally from yesterday https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/1280660998198898689?s=19 you don't target people of colour and display an abbreviated version of the 14 words if you're not a white supremacist
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Jul 9, 2020 20:05
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CocoaNuts posted:What did I see recently about that Fucker, er, Tucker Carlson??? In this photo he has the exact same neck as grover does in that groverhaus swamp picture.
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Jul 9, 2020 22:06
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I wonder where he and his ilk would be if we still had something resembling a Fairness Doctrine
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Jul 9, 2020 22:16
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Armitage posted:I wonder where he and his ilk would be if we still had something resembling a Fairness Doctrine Probably under a rock, which is where he should be no matter what!
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Jul 9, 2020 22:30
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How? White supremacy, OP
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Jul 9, 2020 22:32
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Jaxyon posted:How? Yes, you're right about that. But I just cannot relate. I mean, I get the concept but I certainly have no desire to advocate for it. Just the opposite, I'd like to see it fade away, and soon!
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Jul 9, 2020 22:34
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CocoaNuts posted:Yes, you're right about that. But I just cannot relate. I mean, I get the concept but I certainly have no desire to advocate for it. Just the opposite, I'd like to see it fade away, and soon! He shouldn't be on TV. He should be societally shunned. He is a mediocre fearmonger with no useful skills. He exists as a monument to how white supremacist our society is, like a lesser trump. It doesn't have anything at all to do with free speech, however, since you mentioned it.
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Jul 9, 2020 22:36
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Ran into Tucker (he was with Bret Baier) outside of a Fox studio once and after an exchange of heated words he invited me and my friend to lunch. Hell no.
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Tortilla Maker posted:Ran into Tucker (he was with Bret Baier) outside of a Fox studio once and after an exchange of heated words he invited me and my friend to lunch. i'd have accepted out of morbid curiosity and quietly turned on my phone's audio recording app
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Jul 10, 2020 03:02
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he's #1 because he provides something no one else on tv in that timeslot does: open white supremacy
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Cucker Tarlson is a vile piece of poo poo, but it would be a mistake to think he was stupid. He won some writing awards back in the day and he’s clearly intelligent. His fascism is opportunistic rather than atavistic I think, but that doesn’t make him any less dangerous. He’s definetly going to run for something at some point too.
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Still Dismal posted:Cucker Tarlson is a vile piece of poo poo, but it would be a mistake to think he was stupid. He won some writing awards back in the day and he’s clearly intelligent. His fascism is opportunistic rather than atavistic I think, but that doesn’t make him any less dangerous. No way would he ever run for office if it meant taking a pay cut.
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Jul 10, 2020 05:01
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He's very obviously a fraud, and that's a large part of why he's so successful: He's a total nihilist that will say whatever it takes to boost his career.
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Jul 10, 2020 08:39
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Seriously, Tucker had a whole segment devoted to praising many of Warrens economic policy ideas before saying it was a shame that she thought racism and climate change were real and bad. He clearly understands the trade offs required to make right-populism viable long term. Goes after people like Bezos all the time too. The brand of fascism that he represents would be very hard for the left to combat.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_nFI2Zb7qE he's extremely wealthy, but don't mention that.
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Still Dismal posted:Seriously, Tucker had a whole segment devoted to praising many of Warrens economic policy ideas before saying it was a shame that she thought racism and climate change were real and bad. He clearly understands the trade offs required to make right-populism viable long term. Goes after people like Bezos all the time too. The brand of fascism that he represents would be very hard for the left to combat. Socialism with white supremacist characteristics.
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A4R8 posted:Socialism with white supremacist characteristics. so Strasserism?
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Shocking! The consequences part, I mean, not the bigoted part. https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/1281721449401724928
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Jul 11, 2020 00:09
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When he wrote those things for Tucker, he got paid. But doing it on his free time, that's a big nono.
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Time to see if there was any crossover between the posts and the punditry.
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Dreylad posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_nFI2Zb7qE
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gently caress this fuckin guy to hell! https://twitter.com/DeeKaye13017110/status/1349961542717091842
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CocoaNuts posted:gently caress this fuckin guy to hell!
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Stunt_enby posted:lmao at you posting this garbage political cartoon (not that good political cartoons exist, but this one doesn't even like try to have a joke it's literally just designed to light up Correct Opinion Having neurons) I might be offended, but I saw your avatar.
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So who's worse, Tucker or Hannity?
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Squalid posted:No way would he ever run for office if it meant taking a pay cut. Tucker has all the money he could ever need. He's gonna be a billionaire. More money is worthless to him now. Power is how he gets his white supremist views even deeper into the mainstream.
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-Blackadder- posted:So who's worse, Tucker or Hannity? Tucker. Hannity is a blowhard idiot and this permeates his entire existence. He's gonna stay in his same spot for a little while longer and slowly fade away. Tucker can run and win in 2024 and that's terrible for everyone.
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