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Son of Thunderbeast posted:Did any of y'all keep up with that cyrano thread, because it got loving hilarious around page 18 imagine thinking arfjason is a bad poster
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why are you talking about forums drama in the Simpsons thread?
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:Did any of y'all keep up with that cyrano thread, because it got loving hilarious around page 18 oh yeah I was reading every page. that harry potter photoshop was dope as hell.
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Yeah, it got a bit cheerleader-y at points though. Overall, a very . . . . interesting . . . thread! Nobody ever did answer if a QCS thread had ever been goldmined before.
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:imagine thinking arfjason is a bad poster  it's more common than you think, and these people are wrong!
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Garfield and Friends was a documentary
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an actual dog posted:why are you talking about forums drama in the Simpsons thread? That Simpsons episode where Moe the Bartender listened to a drunk patron from Shelbyville go on and on and on about how Muslims were inherently evil and said "good points, my friend, why can't all my patrons be as well-spoken as you" was pretty weird.
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:Did any of y'all keep up with that cyrano thread, because it got loving hilarious around page 18 holy poo poo that arf post lmao ive never seen a thread come together in unity in enjoying good posts so quickly like that Dreylad fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Jul 2, 2020 |
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Dreylad posted:holy poo poo that arf post lmao it truly is magnificent. 
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Dreylad posted:holy poo poo that arf post lmao somebody buy Arf a CSPAM account
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https://i.imgur.com/7ah0X95.mp4
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this is the episode with the Rear Window parody where Bart thinks Flanders killed Maude so yea it's tru
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i honest to god hadn't watched an episode of the simpsons in probably 5 years but started season 3 last night. Just incredible content
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:Well, speaking for myself, I was a totally bananas pro-war neocon when I was younger. There's no real way to "atone" for that, like "I was a bad person and now I'm a good person." All you can really do is engage in political work -- I think you have a sense of what some of that has been from my posts here. One thing that Cyrano has done since then that is cool is making a thread in that sub to track racist and fascist stuff in the gun industry, which IMO matters: Also it was from 2017 so "lmao"
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yea if it was like 2010 fair enough people can change a lot in ten years, but it was 2017 which is very much 'current era'
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i don't think he should be permabanned like some people are calling for, but I've interacted with the guy a few times online back when we were both doing our phds in history so i'm sympathetic it's a major fuckup, no doubt
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there's some good poo poo in that cyrano thread. homeless snail's post made me lol. but here's something from there more related to the thread topic
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Quetzadilla posted:I'm not caught up on the thread but if the "well-cited" racist screed Cyrano was applauding was about black-on-black violence you would (I hope) be much less inclined to carry water for him, which you should seriously reflect on. Trying to defend Cyrano on this for any reason means you are AT BEST terminally inclined to defend your modmin pals which is how this whole shitshow began, but it also seems likely that you just plain do not understand what's so virulently offensive and toxic about the screed in question. I wasn't joking when I kept saying Cyrano should at least go back and write a better apology. I think he made TFR a lot better so it's super embarrassing that the dude can't use those skills to come back, make a better apology, and have an actual dialogue with people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1ymvD6yW1U
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oxsnard posted:i honest to god hadn't watched an episode of the simpsons in probably 5 years but started season 3 last night. Just incredible content seasons 1 and 2 are also fantastic season 1 is strange and dreamlike and really nails some of the casual dark humor. homer tries to kill himself by tying a big rock to his body and lugs it all the way to a bridge, then gets pissed when he notices an equally large rock is already there, marge gets drunk as poo poo at the company picnic. the tell tale head is, of course, iconic season 2 has a wealth of emotionally resonant episodes with some great gags, that episode old money is a really sincere look into grandpa's life - "discount lion safari!" always makes me laugh, the war of the simpsons does a good job squaring up to how homer is a lovely husband but is ultimately redeemed because of his unwavering devotion to marge, bart gets hit by a car does this as well when homer forgives marge for blowing the million dollar scam, One Fish, Two Fish, Blowfish, Blue Fish is a great look at mortality, both bart gets and F and barts dog gets an F show bart in this panicked, vulnerable state that works really well in the narrative and pays off big time at the end a lot of stories in early simpsons episodes have this redemptive arc that is lacking in later seasons where even though they are lovely, they are able to tap into the sublime and transcend their shittiness, giving hope to us, the viewers, that we too may transcend our shittiness. this scene from the end of the season 5 episode homer loves flanders really encapsulates this concept and is touching while also being hilarious https://i.imgur.com/DpD3m4k.mp4
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Gumball Gumption posted:I wasn't joking when I kept saying Cyrano should at least go back and write a better apology. I think he made TFR a lot better so it's super embarrassing that the dude can't use those skills to come back, make a better apology, and have an actual dialogue with people. 
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Gumball Gumption posted:I wasn't joking when I kept saying Cyrano should at least go back and write a better apology. I think he made TFR a lot better so it's super embarrassing that the dude can't use those skills to come back, make a better apology, and have an actual dialogue with people. yeah, if he can drop the whole “it was my first day!” defense and acknowledge why it was so loving toxic, I’d be fine with him getting demoted to mod of TFR with an embarrassing av. I think it’s an important observation that his reaction probably would’ve been very different if it was a screed against black people or gay people rather than Muslims. in cases like this, I can see why an accused mod/admin wouldn’t engage with what they consider (wrongly) to be a “lynch mob”, but there needs to be better communication and dialogue rather than silence, silence, quitting the forums altogether. that doesn’t benefit anyone, and that unresponsive pattern is one of the basic reasons why things keep escalating to “lynch mob” level before anything changes. also the grimes episode is crack-ping: the episode, it’s amazing.
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Gumball Gumption posted:I wasn't joking when I kept saying Cyrano should at least go back and write a better apology. I think he made TFR a lot better so it's super embarrassing that the dude can't use those skills to come back, make a better apology, and have an actual dialogue with people. the only thing giving me pause is that he apparently made tfr much better, but poo poo like that is bad and it requires a heartfelt apology and he should lose his stars imo
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Wheeee posted:yea if it was like 2010 fair enough people can change a lot in ten years, but it was 2017 which is very much 'current era' Yeah to put this in its contemporary context since calendars are meaningless, this all went down 6 months AFTER Trump's Muslim travel ban.
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dex_sda posted:the only thing giving me pause is that he apparently made tfr much better, but poo poo like that is bad and it requires a heartfelt apology and he should lose his stars imo yeah but this isn't a video game where your good karma points balance out your bad karma points it's like the "well X poster makes good effort posts sometimes" defense for when they're making terrible lovely posts attacking people, I don't care about their good acts if the bad acts are bad enough
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WampaLord posted:yeah but this isn't a video game where your good karma points balance out your bad karma points Sure, but making amends is a thing. I'm just saying if he made any effort to apologise I wouldn't call for a perma
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I don't get you guys saying someone can't improve in 3 years, Hitler went from the worst monster in history to pretty neutral in like a second. That Cyrano post was , at best, the world worst bait, but hell, strip his adminship and let him keep modding tfr, if people there agree.
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I don't think hitler committing suicide was in any way making amends my man lmfao
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i got suspended from twitter for saying the word "gently caress" in an argument about the German SPD's culpability for siccing the freikorps on the KPD / Spartacists and i don't know where to whine about it except for a chat thread. i can't discern what does or does not constitute targeted harassment, is it just any time you're impolite
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I hate to have to keep doing this but #notallfyads, though there are quite a few disingenous ones in qcs
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Frog Act posted:i got suspended from twitter for saying the word "gently caress" in an argument about the German SPD's culpability for siccing the freikorps on the KPD / Spartacists and i don't know where to whine about it except for a chat thread. i can't discern what does or does not constitute targeted harassment, is it just any time you're impolite I got a 24 hour FB probation for posting "Americans are dumb as hell" on a comment on a friend's post for hate speach
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Fly Molo posted:in cases like this, I can see why an accused mod/admin wouldn’t engage with what they consider (wrongly) to be a “lynch mob”, but there needs to be better communication and dialogue rather than silence, silence, quitting the forums altogether. that doesn’t benefit anyone, and that unresponsive pattern is one of the basic reasons why things keep if the only way to be held accountable is via lynch mob, you're gonna get lynch mobs tale old as fuckin time that only imbeciles haven't figured out yet
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Wheeee posted:if the only way to be held accountable is via lynch mob, you're gonna get lynch mobs yep!! surely an encouraging sign for the future of our current sociopolitical order
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Speaking of redemption arcs, I think ArfJason has redeemed himself through posting, lol.
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oxsnard posted:I got a 24 hour FB probation for posting "Americans are dumb as hell" on a comment on a friend's post for hate speach I guess for algorithms indecorous speech is indistinguishable from actual threats or something
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WampaLord posted:yeah but this isn't a video game where your good karma points balance out your bad karma points Sure and that's why I think the first thing he needs to do is a better apology that actually explains how he's better. People are going to make mistakes and a zero tolerance approach isn't really tenable because mistakes happen. But they should only happen once. If the dude can explain why it was a mistake, what the problem was, and what he has done to make sure it doesn't happen again than I'm a lot more likely to believe the mistake isn't going to happen again. Combine that with how he's run TFR and that would make me believe it won't happen again and really was a one time gently caress up with really bad judgement. But he needs that better apology so right now he kind of just looks like a guy who just knows that everyone is mad and it's bad when everyone is mad at you. He doesn't understand why.
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Also rewatching the early seasons of the Simpsons is one of the few things keeping me going through pandemic
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