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So i finally got the first ETA date range for my Model Y Performance i ordered on the opening day of orders last year It'll be about 10 months from order to delivery, because Australia is of course an EV backwater that no manufacturer gives a poo poo about Just to spice things up a bit im part-financing this and although i have pre-approval the final paperwork is looking like it will coincide with me being in between jobs so the whole thing could fall through at the final hurdle
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# ¿ Mar 11, 2023 11:19 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 12:47 |
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:I personally would think of not having to buy a new car on financing while I'm unemployed as a win Just to clarify, i have the second job already lined up, it’s just that changeover period that complicates things…
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# ¿ Mar 12, 2023 03:01 |
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Elviscat posted:Lots of cars have key cylinders that stop giving a poo poo what key gets jammed in them to open/start, especially before chips, and some key fobs will unlock the wrong car if the code rotation lines up just right. There's also the case of garage doors opening on their own when a warship drives by with its search radar on. If you have PIN to drive enabled it wouldnt matter, no one is driving off with your car even if they by some random chance were able to get in it
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# ¿ Mar 16, 2023 12:09 |
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So 10 months after i ordered a Model Y Performance delivery day finally arrived It really shouldn’t have been anything like that long a wait but for factors that were both Teslas fault (delaying build) and not Teslas fault (500 Teslas sitting on the docks in Singapore for 2 months while they sorted out the post-covid shipping clusterfuck) Anyway it was a pretty smooth though typically bare-bones process to pickup the car, at least there were no PPF/tinting/rust protection hard-sells, but driving the car on the way home i put the window down just after leaving the delivery centre and could hear a ticking noise. Instantly knew it was something in the tyre, was hoping it was just a stone but it didn’t go away so about halfway home i stopped to have a look. Sure enough there’s a tek-screw stuck in the front right tyre Tyre was holding air so decided to drive home carefully monitoring the TPMS pressures. Got home and used the Tesla app to log a service request. Got a call 5 minutes later to confirm the issue and organise a fix. They arranged a service/tow guy to come out with a spare wheel and do a swap, take my wheel back to have it fixed and i would have to drive back to Tesla when it’s ready. Took about a hour or so for him to arrive (this was a Saturday afternoon), he did the swap in my driveway, didnt have a spare 21" Uber so it was a 20" Induction but aside from not matching it made no difference to the car or driving. Then i got a message later that day with a scheduled time to pickup the repaired wheel/tyre, unfortunately it was this Friday so have to wait til then Cant fault the service really but i have a feeling they might try and stooge me for the cost of repairs, fortunately when we picked up the car in delivery we took a few happy snaps (as you do) before we drove away, and lo and behold in one of the pics you can see the screw in the tyre! So that proves it was there before i even set foot in the car so i aint paying for the repair! Other than that really happy with the car, no issues with build quality, i mean it’s no Lexus (we’ve had two in the past) but it’s fine. About the most notable thing is the front and rear bonnet/tailgate/frunk/whatever opening mechanisms are a bit noisy and unrefined in operation. Software/interface wise it seems really well sorted and the performance when you put your foot down is just ridiculous for this type of car, almost to the point where ive thought i could’ve gone for the cheaper LR model, saved a chunk of cash and still been happy. ROFLBOT fucked around with this message at 05:05 on May 24, 2023 |
# ¿ May 24, 2023 05:00 |
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SlowBloke posted:An underwater ICE wouldn't burn and start a lithium fire tho. You get an hydrolocked engine and corroded electronics. Battery packs are sealed, they have to be because coolant flows in them. They also have fuses at the battery that negate any chance of a short. If your EVs battery goes on fire it isn’t simply because it got flooded.
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# ¿ May 27, 2023 14:57 |
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Every Tesla in the entire rest of the world (except i think China) uses CCS2 so how hard can it be?
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# ¿ May 30, 2023 07:29 |
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:The Mach-E is avaible for order in Australia now and none of you are making me particularly keen to test drive it Look at the pricing and then factor in the Ford dealership markup - reports of people getting quoted over $130k for the GT Why would you when the Model Y is objectively a better EV in every way, for far less money (Elon hate aside) Ford deserves to sell all of about 6 of these, while the Model Y continues to fly out the doors https://thedriven.io/2023/06/05/model-y-becomes-best-selling-suv-in-australia-as-ev-sales-hit-record/ ROFLBOT fucked around with this message at 01:51 on Jun 6, 2023 |
# ¿ Jun 6, 2023 01:49 |
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Three Olives posted:If by every way you mean 0-60 and range and not things like build quality, insurance rates and not being a human interface design nightmare. The Teslas we get are built in the Shanghai factory and are by all reports way better quality than the US cars. I certainly dont have any issues with paint, panel gaps or squeaks or rattles, the car just feels solid. Im also paying less for insurance on it than i paid for my (lower value) Lexus
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# ¿ Jun 6, 2023 02:05 |
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Three Olives posted:The Tesla quality failings are across the board No they aren't, as i have already pointed out. Tesla needs to work on its QC in the US plants maybe, the RoW is fine. Also lol @ Ford's M3P/MYP competitor that can only run at full power for 5 seconds at a time ROFLBOT fucked around with this message at 07:54 on Jun 7, 2023 |
# ¿ Jun 7, 2023 07:51 |
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Wayne Knight posted:SO much empty space in the engine compartment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDsnt5xJTnk What a laughably primitive (poo poo) design I mean thats like something Tesla would have done, 20 years ago? Is that the best Mazda can do? ROFLBOT fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Jun 9, 2023 |
# ¿ Jun 9, 2023 01:39 |
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Evil_Greven posted:I don't care for the middle display as the only feedback to the driver. Also, the 2nd row could be an issue... He is the first reviewer i’ve seen to point out it literally takes *no extra time or effort* to glance across to a speedo than it does to glance down at one This becomes obvious the minute you get behind the wheel. The only improvement on either state is a HUD
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# ¿ Jun 11, 2023 04:06 |
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One-pedal driving particularly in Hold mode (Tesla, not sure what it is in other cars) is seamless and I cant fathom why you would not use it, its superior
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2023 01:10 |
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Infinotize posted:Yeah teslas don’t which I’m saying is dumb Thats because you cant "turn off" regen from the accel pedal anyway so why would you also need it on brake? That makes no sense.
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2023 06:47 |
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You cant turn off one pedal driving, thats part of the reason their efficiency and range is high Like why would you want to do that, dont buy a Tesla i guess? ROFLBOT fucked around with this message at 07:23 on Jun 21, 2023 |
# ¿ Jun 21, 2023 07:16 |
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Infinotize posted:No, it isn’t. If the brake pedal let you regen you could recapture just as much energy modulating the brakes. If anything removing the ability to coast is actually less efficient in certain conditions. You need to think about this a little more. I mean you cant turn off OPD which means you cant turn off regen which is why efficiency/range is high. Tesla even makes the point of saying switching the driving mode to creep or roll reduces efficiency over Hold which is the only mode that applies regen down to stationary. ROFLBOT fucked around with this message at 08:23 on Jun 21, 2023 |
# ¿ Jun 21, 2023 08:20 |
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2023 10:29 |
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gwrtheyrn posted:It reduces efficiency for tesla because they don't do blended braking. https://www.notateslaapp.com/tesla-reference/1051/how-tesla-s-regenerative-braking-works quote:Regen, as commonly referred to, makes it possible to drive a Tesla and never touch the brake pedal (along with some brake blending for slow speeds), Teslas also blend friction braking when the battery is too full or too cold to accept regen. quote:but OPD is not a reason why teslas are relatively efficient. ROFLBOT fucked around with this message at 10:43 on Jun 21, 2023 |
# ¿ Jun 21, 2023 10:40 |
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Indiana_Krom posted:This. Thats probably another reason why they make a lot more sense if you have garage parking - you can disable Sentry mode when the car detects you are home, but if you're parking on the street you may not want to do that and so have to live with the battery drain. Its not huge but over a few days or a week it adds up
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2023 00:58 |
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Nitrousoxide posted:Left side charge ports are dumb. They make street charging way harder than they need to be. Not in RHD countries they dont
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2023 02:33 |
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Yes but no
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2023 03:03 |
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Kind of the point, isn't it? If you're willing to throw money at it you can keep any car on the road for an infinite amount of time, but for most people there's a point where vehicles become no longer economical to repair. I doubt EVs will last much longer than ICE cars in that respect, but we'll see. If they dont last longer its because of planned obsolescence but its pretty clear from a drivetrain perspective EVs could last way longer than ICE simply by the massive reduction in parts, wear/friction points and complexity. Even batteries, most original Model S's are hitting 10+ years with just reduced range and nothing catastrophic.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2023 03:41 |
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Three Olives posted:I think there is a perception that i3s are going to become huge money pits, so far there is no evidence for that as far as I can tell but I did not want to stick around long enough to find if a part was going to fail in the battery pack or something that costs $10k to fix. I very intentionally sold mine before the battery warranty expired because I figured someone will give me more money to be able to check the battery out with BMW and have any modules replaced if needed. "perception"? Its a BMW ffs
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2023 01:31 |
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priznat posted:I have been seeing a lot of MYPs around with the uberturbine wheels that are absolutely curb shredded and it is cringetastic, good lord. Can confirm, i curbed mine twice in the first week of ownership And i'd like to think im not your average "lovely driver with no spatial awareness" but in my defence * The car is decently bigger than what I've been driving for the past 5 or so years * Tyre fitment from the factory is ridiculously stretched, not only does it look stupid and compromises ride quality but it guarantees no protection for the rim. I have since done the common tyre upgrade (correct width tyres on the back, OEM rear tyres to the fronts) which fixes these issues and has no apparent effect on economy/performance
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2023 05:29 |
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I find the Tesla fine for reverse parking since the mirrors auto-dip so that in conjunction with the rear cam is all i need, but front-first parking is the problem since theres no way to see the curb where the front wheels are
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2023 07:18 |
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cruft posted:How do you rotate your tires if they're different widths? Simple answer is you dont, same as with any car with staggered tyre sizes I mean you can on the same axle obviously but that shouldnt make a difference. ROFLBOT fucked around with this message at 01:11 on Jul 18, 2023 |
# ¿ Jul 18, 2023 01:09 |
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You can bet a significant chunk of Model 3 owners will absolutely have to have the updated car when it comes out and so will flood the used car market with their current M3s There will be a few bargain secondhand M3s at that point but who knows exactly when the new car will be released
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# ¿ Jul 19, 2023 02:21 |
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It still baffles me how people will insist the car is wrong and not their lack of coordination of their right foot. I got my head around driving with regen within the first test drive and had it sussed within the first week of ownership. If you are making yourself or your passengers sick that’s a you problem. gently caress Tesla if they ever change regen so the car becomes less efficient and wears out the brakes faster just to appease these people.
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2023 14:17 |
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Sagebrush posted:The technology needs to serve the user, not the other way around. If someone wants their new car to behave like their old car, coasting when they let off the accelerator and not actively decelerating until they touch the brake, the car should let them do that. In a Tesla it does and thats my point - the brake pedal *only* operates the conventional brakes. If Tesla were to reduce the regen on the accelerator pedal in order to appease people who cant learn how to drive smoothly with it then that by default means more friction braking which means less efficiency.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2023 03:26 |
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Elviscat posted:Or they could just make the brake pedal blend regen and friction braking, like the high-technology 2013 Nissan Leaf managed to do, and also literally every other EV. Does it though? Because the brake pedal is a direct mechanical/hydraulic connection to the brakes. The accelerator is an electrical connection to the motor controller so it makes perfect sense to use one pedal for the mechanical system only and the other pedal for an electrical connection to the controller only. That seems like the simplest and most straightforward of solutions. "man these newfangled horseless carriages with their steering tillers, theyre not easy to use like the reigns on a horse!"
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2023 06:00 |
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Elviscat posted:It is kinda funny that Tesla is the one going for the simple, non-tech-forward approach. My analogy was to point out that just because a subset of users cant or dont want to get used to some new way of doing things doesnt automatically make that new way wrong. Sometimes people just have to suck it up, particularly while there are others who dont have a problem and see the benefits. I guess the alternative is just dont buy a Tesla.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2023 06:43 |
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Elviscat posted:What is the advantage of not blending the brake pedal? The advantage is one-pedal driving and the removal of a default coasting condition which improves efficiency, as I've said before.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2023 07:47 |
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Elviscat posted:No, it doesn't, as everyone in this thread who knows dick about poo poo, including other Tesla owners, told you last time, you willfully ignorant buffoon. I drive one every drat day, i know how it works. You are the one making assumptions about Tesla introducing blending on the brake pedal which i’m not talking about. I’m not sure how i can put it any clearer, if Tesla were to reduce the deceleration effect on Accelerator liftoff *without modifying brake pedal operation* that would make the car less efficient because there would be less regen. Capisce?
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2023 14:51 |
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I'd be questioning the Edmunds results given there are no end of EV range comparisons on the internets (granted, with varying degrees of accuracy) that show Teslas typically mid-pack in terms of actual range vs claimed range. I mean this is a huge red flag right here quote:All but one of 10 other models from other manufacturers exceeded their advertised range. Every real-world comparison between multiple EV models I've seen shows the majority of them getting significantly less than the official claimed range. Its actually rare for a car to equal or exceed it. TeslaBjorn keeps a huge spreadsheet with all the cars he tests, im sure this sort of data is in there. Then theres all the Youtube channels like Carwow, RSEV etc who have done a bunch of range tests.
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2023 01:14 |
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Yes Tesla is fraudulent compared to all the other EV manufacturers who’s cars never overestimate real-world range by the same if not greater error margins [edit] 373 miles 😆 ROFLBOT fucked around with this message at 05:08 on Jul 29, 2023 |
# ¿ Jul 29, 2023 04:21 |
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Why would Tesla bother to do this when presumably by the time people are finding out this nefarious deed they have already bought the car? I mean anyone buying a new Tesla is not even seeing the range estimate on their particular car until theyve already signed and paid so im not seeing what possible benefit there is in doing this. What difference does it make as opposed to blatantly false advertising as per the Mustang ad above? ROFLBOT fucked around with this message at 09:21 on Jul 29, 2023 |
# ¿ Jul 29, 2023 09:10 |
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Fake news, everyone knows as soon as your Tezler battery gets wet it erupts in a nuclear meltdown
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# ¿ Jul 30, 2023 02:37 |
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Wow this blows my mind Service station attendants (ie, gas pumpers) died out like 25 years ago in Australia Also they got rid of the pump nozzles triggers that you could lock on because "safety" so yep you have to stand there pressing it for 10 minutes while your 120 litre long-range tank fills. Needless to say these are extra nice little things you no longer have to put up with when you enter EV land ROFLBOT fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Aug 1, 2023 |
# ¿ Aug 1, 2023 02:05 |
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Kia Soul Enthusias posted:I need to grab a mirror and just unplug the lock wiring on mine. Using a public charger is super rare for me, so all it does is annoy me at home. On Teslas if you set your car to not auto-lock at home (because you’re parked in your garage and don’t need sentry running etc) then you can unplug any time just by pressing the button on the handle - is this not a thing on other cars?
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2023 08:04 |
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Swappable batteries is an idea that sounds better in theory than it works in practice I’ll bet money either charging speed improves or people get over charging times before battery swap stations really catch on ROFLBOT fucked around with this message at 10:47 on Aug 5, 2023 |
# ¿ Aug 5, 2023 10:45 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 12:47 |
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Elviscat posted:A non-exhaustive list of reputable tire brands, for the not tire people around here: Personally I'd pick a reputable tyre brand as above, then go for whatever rates on somewhere like Tirerack as a quiet, comfortable tyre. I refuse to believe tyre A in an identical size to Tyre B is going to make any significant difference in efficiency worth worrying about. You would get far more variation in efficiency by things like not running the right pressures. [edit] Im assuming what you guys call "summer tyres" as i have no knowledge of winter/snow tyres, we dont get them here
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2023 03:00 |