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Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

He said that Yugoslavia's signing of the Tripartite Pact was going to allow German troops to move through the country, when they were very specifically forbidden from doing that by the agreement.

Nazi Germany is well known for respecting its treaty obligations

like lol Yugoslavia literally joined the Axis in a defensive alliance in accordance with the pact, gently caress 'em I'm glad they got couped

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

The UK was loving evil as hell in WW2 and listening to people defend them or Churchill is nauseating.

There are way better ways to argue this than "plucky little fascist yugoslavia"

Fojar38 fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Jul 18, 2020

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Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Collapsing Farts posted:

Im america taking credit for beating the nazis even though i didnt enter the war until the germans were already turbofucked by the russians

Im all the heroic movies about american bravado in ww2 even though the russians destroyed two thirds of the german army and massacred all their veterans so all america fought were skeleton crews, newbies and literal children

You seem to be getting your sequence of events confused

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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The only significance of the bombs at the time as well was their sheer efficiency compared to conventional munitions; a lot of the handwringing over them is post-facto due to what they would come to symbolize. The simple act of bombing civilian targets was something that everyone had accepted as a thing that was happening at that point in the war.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Collapsing Farts posted:

America had 100% air and sea superiority over japan

They could have kept destroying war targets and factories until there was nothing left but they wanted the war to be over quick and they had fancy new bombs so they started a campaign of terror and deleted 3 cities worth of innocents

Zzulu posted:

In 25 years when the apocalypse comes, when China starts virus-bombing our cities to kill as many civilians as it takes to get our government to surrender, I will remember that they are actually doing it to save us from further casualties out of the goodness of their hearts.

plucky little imperial japan

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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There is no realistic scenario where Germany successfully invades England.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Funky See Funky Do posted:

Well I think the date of Well's death is debatable but historians give numerous dates and I think the 1928 date is the one supported by the most evidence. Regardless the German failure to occupy Britain owed far more to their lack of ships to ferry their planes across the English Channel - which yes was partly due to much of the German navy being diverted to the eastern front.

And also the German Navy being rear end aside from their submarines

Bleusilences posted:

I watched a Netflix documentary about WW2 and they were saying that the bomb did have much influence on the Japanese leadership to surrender to the American. It was when the Russian tried to invade them that they choose what they saw as the lesser of two evil.

This is a revisionist angle that requires ignoring the Japanese literally saying "yeah we're surrending cuz of the bombs, we don't want to get hit with more"

IMO the only thing more irritating than Wehrmach fetishization is Red Army fetishization

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

The main thing to understand is that even at the worst time immediately post Dunkirk the British Empire was not the underdog. It never was. Never. Ever. Ever. The Third Reich was not a juggernaut.

It's really weird how much you hate the UK even in the context of the British fighting literal Nazis

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Stanley Tucheetos posted:

Depends on the nation. Red army and German losses were extremely high. Statistically the safest tank to be in after being penetrated was an American Sherman.

What were your odds if you were a Sherman that got penetrated from behind?

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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By the time of Pearl Harbor the USA was already a de-facto belligerent on the side of the Allies and tbh Germany just made it official

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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GolfHole posted:

one time canada and america got in a fight by accident

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cottage

quote:

Both U.S. and Canadian forces mistook each other, after a Canadian soldier shot at American lines believing they were Japanese, and a sporadic friendly fire incident occurred, which had left 28 Americans and 4 Canadians dead, with 50 wounded on either side.

Canada wins by k/d ratio :canada:

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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twistedmentat posted:

Yea but then you don't look as cool as my avatar.

Having shitloads of medals makes someone look gaudy and insecure and is now largely associated with dictatorships so it's actually kind of weird that the Nazis weren't all in on it

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Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Yeah the general consensus among historians that specialize in Churchill seems to be that he was an exemplary wartime leader and a lovely peacetime leader. The British public seemed to have agreed since they ejected him from government almost down to the very moment Germany surrendered.

And despite what the internet would have you believe, it's possible to recognize his contributions to resisting fascism and defeating the Nazis while at the same time condemning his imperialistic beliefs and actions. Certainly a lot of people who despise Churchill have no problem doing this with Stalin.

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