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I'm cross posting this here because it just might be the most thourough misunderstanding of both audio and networking ever recorded Basically dude gets a video doorbell and it makes audio streaming stutter on his wifi. The obvious solution would be to run ethernet for stuff you don't want dropoputs on. And he kind of does:  quote:Below is a list of equipment for a basic setup:  quote:Putting my scientist hat on, I went into full research mode and started reading everything I could find about digital streaming using copper Ethernent versus optical fiber. Here’s what I learned.  quote:The purpose of using optical fiber and networking devices with better clocks and power supplies is to reduce sources of noise and improve timing of bitstreams. It was originally thought that digital sources and connections were impervious to the effect of noise on audio quality; after all, they’re just 1’s and 0’s, right? What can go wrong? Well, it turns out that bitstreams are not composed of 1’s and 0’s; that is only how the data comprising the music file is encoded. What is actually transmitted from server to DAC are analog square wave voltages. As result, it turns out that…everything matters. 
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"The noise floor was appreciably lower, which allowed me to hear more deeply into the music. " 5
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Jul 17, 2020 18:49
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could have gotten the same results by hanging up some magic rocks and elevating all his power cables
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Jul 17, 2020 21:35
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nerds on the whole need more fiber but that's not what i'm talking about
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qirex posted:I'm cross posting this here because it just might be the most thourough misunderstanding of both audio and networking ever recorded how are these people even real?
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Shaggar posted:how are these people even real? the how is a lot of companies that sell dumb magic woo products to suckers depend on outlets like this to tell people they actually work. the problem is that if you do it long enough you start believing
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Jul 17, 2020 22:36
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if they're complaining about lovely clock sources has someone started selling a GPS Disciplined Oscillator to audiophile nerds yet
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Jul 17, 2020 23:51
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Jimmy Carter posted:if they're complaining about lovely clock sources has someone started selling a GPS Disciplined Oscillator to audiophile nerds yet gently caress that's good
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Jul 18, 2020 00:03
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lol at thinking a crystal oscillator is a high quality clock source
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welp https://www.mutec-net.com/product_ref_10.php quote:"As soon as you set up the REF10 with the MC-3+USB it's like you're in a totally different world: no more noise, lower distortion, better dynamic range, extended frequency response, and improved details." – Kwok Yan, FeverSound.com
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Jul 18, 2020 00:08
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CSACs for audiophiles. gonna just dropship em from digikey at a 10x markup
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Jul 18, 2020 00:08
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omg they actually bad mouth atomic clocks as not being up to audiophile standards nevermind that the definition of the second is based on caesium clocks
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Jul 18, 2020 00:22
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im going to go to bed thinking of ways to make a cryptocurrency that purportedly improves the listening experience i wont even have to market the ico, audiophiles will just convince themselves that it works and pay through the nose
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no matter how evil and rotten you think you are, NONE of us here are poo poo enough to sell any of our audiophile snakeoil ideas. if we were, we'd already be doing it by now.
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Jul 18, 2020 01:54
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love too re-clock my DACs for deeper sound experience
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Jul 18, 2020 03:19
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its impossible to beat shakti stones for pure grift tho
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Jul 18, 2020 06:42
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pram posted:its impossible to beat shakti stones for pure grift tho I’d guess you are not yet familiar with the blackbody ambient field conditioner just keep scrolling, it gets more insane the further down the page you make it
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Jul 18, 2020 06:48
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they won’t lay fibre to my non-farm 
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Jul 18, 2020 07:27
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will they lay fiber to your actual-farm?
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my what?
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Jul 18, 2020 07:32
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place of animal husbandry
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the abattoir
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qirex posted:I’d guess you are not yet familiar with the blackbody ambient field conditioner holy poo poo lol 
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loving loooollll When we set up a Blackbody, tune it to the parallel of our closest pole's axis, and ground it, we do our small part to tame the subtly disturbing effects of the Sun's activity locally, in order that the music be liberated from unwanted noise coming in from the cosmos. In fact it is more likely that the direct influence of gentler daily, non-destructive cosmic weather on our local circuitry is more influential to sonic quality than that induced by vast stretches of the city's power supply wiring. Knowledge about the natural attenuation of high frequencies over a distance of any wire supports this train of thought. It's the same well established “last meter is most influential” argument, just transposed to include the immediate local atmosphere. Seen in this way, the Blackbody can be considered a type of highly specialized umbrella to protect our sensitive circuitry from the continuously varying subtle cosmic shower of particles and rays.
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Jul 18, 2020 07:53
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 $836 each
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Displeased Moo Cow posted:they won’t lay fibre to my non-farm how far off is the node? get yourself a mini excavator and go to town every farm should have one anyway
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the question isn't "can you come up with a dumb bullshit product that does nothing?" it's "can you keep a straight face while you sell said product at trade shows, dealer events, press interviews, etc. ? can you cut deals with other vendors to use your product in their demo suite?are you willing to spend the entirety of your life hanging out with dudes aged 40-70 in ugly shirts?"ConanTheLibrarian posted:
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ConanTheLibrarian posted:
that actually seems pretty cheap for audiophile voodoo garbage
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yeah, it's not exactly up there with the $4k/ft speaker cables, or the $8k block of wood with a power cable running through it
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The_Franz posted:that actually seems pretty cheap for audiophile voodoo garbage they want you to buy several. Limited time Early Bird launch offer! Only until the timer runs out! Buy 4 – get 1 free Buy 8 – get 2 free Buy 12 – get 3 free
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lol https://www.lessloss.com/firewall-module-p-216.html
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i hope the dad that makes those in his wood shop is paying off a really nice boat with the purchases. grift em.
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Sweevo posted:yeah, it's not exactly up there with the $4k/ft speaker cables, or the $8k block of wood with a power cable running through it the materials may be cheap, but you're paying for the design and the story to go along with it
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so you're saying that website is audiophile story time
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there are huge parallels between audiophile poo poo and startup culture
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oh god I just remembered the audiophile grounding system that is literally a box of rocks I must find it e: found it! I present the entreq signal grounding box  the great thing about this is instead of doing nothing like most of these the cable ends up acting like an antenna and fucks the noise floor  https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/entreq-signal-grounding-preliminary-measurements.476/page-2 qirex fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Jul 18, 2020 |
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Tankakern posted:how far off is the node? get yourself a mini excavator and go to town ours is not a mini it’s 12 tonne because this is not a farm
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guys its fine if your system doesnt sound any better after spending thousands on our products its just burn in even if it sounds worse thats fine, just give it time (speculative) 
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ConanTheLibrarian posted:guys its fine if your system doesnt sound any better after spending thousands on our products its just burn in I'm the bit where it goes backwards in time
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"Besides the fact that ordinary letter paper makes a mediocre speaker diaphragm compared to beryllium," Harry said, critically, "and that these 'Howlers' don't even form a basic horn, much less a proper LeCleach shape, taking into the account the local inclination angle of the Earth's magnetic flux would make them notably more spacious, open, and airy-sounding with improved focus on individual instruments and voices" "But Harry, they work by magic", objected Hermione, repeating mindlessly what their professors had told them. "Magic is no substitute for critical listening," Harry said, rationally, "and a properly trained ear can pick up on nuances finer than any magical or scientific instrument ever could." "Now about this self-shredding business - how is anyone supposed to get the proper 100 hours of burn-in
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