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wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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AfricanBootyShine posted:

Does any company make a bike that has an IGH, disc brakes, and a dyno hub?

I'm starting a new job soon and they have a scheme were I can get an interest-free 3-year loan to purchase a new bike. It'd be my main method of transport for *all* events (i.e. including formal and social events) so belt drive or a protected chain case would be nice so I don't wind up with grease on my suit. But I would also like to be able to take it on casual rides of 20-50 km.

This is in the UK-- we can still get EU brands of bikes out here (for now) so that may help inform.

It’s possible, though a bit specialised to combine discs and hub gears. It’s a touring setup really, which might mean custom.

Look at thorncycles.co.uk

Go for a Rohloff hub if you’re rich enough.

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wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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Groda posted:

If you're not in the US, discs on gear hubs have been all over the place for like 10 years. Even ignoring Rohloff.

Search for bikes with Alifne 8 or Alfine 11 hubs. They only come with the option of disc brake (except if you just leave it off and use rim brakes).

The Alfine 11 has a range of just above 400 %, which is about the same as a 3x7 MTB gearset.

I’m in the UK.

You can get disc brakes with hub gears sure, but there aren’t many bikes like that about in my experience - how many people will spend ~ £1000+ on what’s essentially a hybrid bike?

Besides, from what I’ve read alfine 11 is not well regarded at all.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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learnincurve posted:

Hybrid is a bad bad term in 2022, it belongs 10 years ago when bad companies shoved pannier racks on bottom of the range heavy MTB frames with whatever road bike forks they had an excess of, and 700c wheels, and made a fortune because it turned out there was a demand for people who wanted to commute on flat bar.

There are a lot of bikes in the “hybrid” category on any UK bike shop site. But the nicer ones are almost identical to a 90s type rigid MTB to be honest, and are light and well spaced. They’re decent bikes, and I might’ve bought one myself If I didn’t want drops.

I question how many people buy the nice ones though. It’s a lot of money to spend without being an enthusiast, who would probably prefer a road bike or an mtb.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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learnincurve posted:

It depends on where you are riding it, if it’s your gravel/off road/potholed lane bike then a fork with a lockout is fine. On roads and bike lanes then it’s just additional weight. I got four hybrids and only one of them has suspension and that’s on an ebike.

I’d far rather have slightly bigger (road specific) tyres than suspension for anything short of riding down steps.

They’re just a faff.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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Bilirubin posted:

Ortliebs rate as a good pannier bag?

They’re the best, and not even expensive compared to alternatives where I am.

Waterproof enough to use as an ice cooler for beer.

Tough enough that you could just drag them behind your bike and they’d still make it.

Jazz Marimba posted:

i picked the big ones up a month ago and they’re *amazing*

my only gripe is my laptop weighs more than everything else i carry combined, so if i walk my bike it has a tendency to lean/push/roll to one side. completely unnoticeable while riding though

They’re clearly the best way to carry a laptop, yet it’s still a pain to lug 15” workstation laptops about when you know how nice it is to ride with nothing on the back.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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jammyozzy posted:

Does anybody have recommendations for a commuting backpack that can swallow a 17" laptop*, a change of clothes and some lunch? The laptop physically won't go in my current bag.

Has to be completely waterproof for ~30 mins so I can carry said laptop through British weather, but I don't mind if that involves a cover that goes over it. A couple of mesh pockets so I can carry a coffee flask on the outside would be nice, but not essential.

*I know the real answer here is get a smaller laptop, but it's a work issued workstation replacement that I'm lucky to have at all so I'm trying to make the best of it.

The recommendation is still pannier bags. Fully waterproof, keeps that weight off your back. I commuted for a month with a 15” desktop replacement laptop on my back and it’s always gonna be a horrible lump that makes you sweat.

That said, There are plenty of rucksacks that can take a laptop that big, including Ortlieb waterproof rucksacks that would do the job.

https://bikingbackpack.com/best-waterproof-biking-backpacks/

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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Cugel the Clever posted:

While we're on the subject of panniers, I'm curious what folks use for groceries. I picked up these a couple years back and they work great (albeit less so for 12-packs of soda), except the S hook is too small for the girth of the rack on my new Allant. I've seen trailers in use that would probably be a little more viable for large grocery runs, though now that the rack has proven unusable for these and not great for another pannier I've got, I'm worried I'll wind up buying and returninga bunch of stuff.

Is the s hook not swappable for something that fits?
Or moddable?
Post a photo of it.

I just use the same Ortlieb panniers for groceries as I do for commuting etc.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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Cugel the Clever posted:

Thanks for all the recs! I do like the look of the Blackburn bags.

Could potentially add a second, larger one or try bending this one a little wider (though I assume that risks weakening the hook?)?


Yeah chimp strength it till it fits, or take it to a hardware shop to mod / sell you a bigger one. If I understand the setup right, it’s not taking the whole weight of the bag, just holding it flush to the rack, so strength isn’t too important.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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100YrsofAttitude posted:

Was/Is it just a hipster fad? I only ever see the most cliché looking people riding them here in Paris.

They were originally just track bikes, but now, kind of yes. And specifically not being legally required to have a rear break on them is all about style points.

There’s something to the simplicity for short journeys if you live in a very flat city, but I know people with wrecked knees which they attribute to riding one longer distances / up hills.

I much prefer my old rear end mtb with a triple for getting back up the hill from my nearest brewery.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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bicievino posted:

Oh, no doubt it's doable. But it doesn't sound fun at all. Especially for commuting on.

And as noted, it will wreck knees in time.

It’s as bad as grinding up every hill in too high a gear on a road bike.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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Got a tour of my refurbished office buildings new cycling facilities yesterday.

The bike racks are flimsy and a bit of a pain to use (45 degree angled, only lockable area is right by the bottom bracket).

But they also added new changing rooms with lockers, showers, and a drying room with lockable cages, all right next to the bikes in the basement.

I’m actually pleasantly surprised.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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Did the same thing with an old 26” mtb and chose continental contact travel, which have been great.

Totally smooth in the middle, little lugs at the side for cornering on rougher ground or mud. They’re touring tyres so very hardwearing, and I’ve never punctured.

I think your selection will be decent too unless you want to ride on mud / slimy leaves, which can clog the smaller tread.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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learnincurve posted:

I am about to pay £85 with a £15 deposit for a bike locker in town and am not happy about the price of it.

It’s a work thing where the bike has to be parked in town overnight so it’s the only way :(

How long do you get the locker for? You can’t just leave it in the office? Or take a beater? Or lock in the nearest big railway station?

Or is there anyone going via car with a big enough boot to stash it in?

At least try to claim it as an expense if it comes to it.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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learnincurve posted:

I can’t get out of this one and it’s taking the bus four times a day that broke me - need somewhere to park it at night 365 days a year.

Ok, so how long is £85 for, a month? A week? The whole year?

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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SimonSays posted:

I'm ok with bicycle thieves being injured by their actions

I am also OK with this, but then again I also dream of writing a screenplay for a grindcore style revenge film where a cyclist wronged by drivers / bike thieves takes bloody revenge using a variety of bicycle tools and parts.

100YrsofAttitude posted:

I hate that stealing bikes is a thing. Like stealing cars is thing too, as well as other forms of theft, but why do I feel it's that much shittier to be a bike thief?

Because cars are more likely to be insured, and because the police occasionally do something about a spate of car thefts in an area - there’s a nationalised vehicle registration scheme with enforcement.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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Indeed, welcome to the UK, where the party in power actually did defund the police, over multiple decades, for no particular reason other than being cheap.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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Hadlock posted:

Besides gore-tex and competitors?

They’re not remotely breathable and are not suited for any hard exercise. A gentle walk they can cope with.

Both in cycling and mountain sports, shells aren’t used for actually doing the intense exercise bit, it’s all windproof fabrics with a DWR coating, just enough to keep you comfortable and warm.

Some are designed to be warn direct on the skin with just a thin wicking comfort layer, more like a wetsuit in function.

Even full windproof jackets are too warm for cycling for me until it’s close to 0 degrees C.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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Animal Friend posted:

my friend bought his partner a fancy ebike and rode to the city with her.

It was stolen while they had lunch. I thought, that's odd, he uses a folding lock and it was left in a busy place.

I asked how they cut through it and he said to save time they used a cable lock. loving expensive lesson right there.

The also left his touring bike in place, which he paid over 2k for.

Folding locks are pretty poo poo in the scheme of things too.

I’d go for a D-lock for anything left out of my sight for any amount of time, easy decision in a city, and when a battery is helping carry it about.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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Better solution: just wear cycling specific water resistant thermal bib tights and change when you arrive.

No idea how it’s worth rustling about in that kind of over-trouser if you can just change clothes.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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I usually commute on a gravel bike with pannier. Last week my freehub seized up completely, and I’ve been waiting on a 11mm Allen key to arrive so I can take it apart, so commuting on my winter road bike for a week, and using a backpack.

It’s been surprisingly OK, no punctures, and I’ve gotten in a couple of 30 mile extended commutes after work.

Now tempted to make it a permanent change and use the gravel bike for gravel again.

Only issue is I can’t use the 35c marathon plus tyres I used to commute on, and I suspect commuting on 28c Vittoria Rubino Pros will become a problem shortly.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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CopperHound posted:

I've been meaning to ask you since I've seen how you're built: Do you stand on your toes when stopped on a bike with a level top tube or just track stand indefinitely?

https://sheldonbrown.com/starting.html

It’s hard to relate to not being able to stand over the top tube, feet flat on the floor. Is this really not possible on any modern bike with a sloped top tube (of the right size)?

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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bicievino posted:

I'm 5'8" and ride a 58cm frame in order to get enough reach. My legs are like a corgi. My torso is like a corgi.
My butt is also like a corgi.

You what? Are your arms 100” Long?

I ride a 58 (with 130mm stem) and I’m 6’5”.

Is this a road bike we’re talking about?
Pictures please.

Mauser posted:

I've got three steel frame bikes that have a more or less flat top tube and I can comfortably stand over it and am very comfortable while riding :shrug:

Yeah, you should be able to - I have the same experience. And with modern bikes with sloped too tubes, it’s nowhere near my crotch for standover obviously.

wooger fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Jun 1, 2022

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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kimbo305 posted:

Sounds like you got a lot of leg going on. I'm 5'10" (with what I thought were long legs) but can manage some 56cm frames. I had one 58cm and was pretty stretched out.
Hmm, body proportions vary a lot, weird.

My legs are shorter than average for my height, that’s why I don’t need a bike with more stack. But still long by normal standards sure.

You should be on a 52 or 54, no?

I want to see a photo of bicievino on their bike cause I just don’t believe it at present.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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Literally Lewis Hamilton posted:

Pretty sure the guy with a national champions jersey is doing just fine in the bike fit department.

Who has a national champions jersey?
As I say, I want to see a photo, it’ll be educational if nothing else.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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Animal Friend posted:

any ideas as to how i keep throwing spokes?

I got a new, stronger wheel after cracking a hub recently and have still managed to snap 2 spokes while barely riding at the moment (30km a week for the past month- new job close by and been running for fitness).

I don't do anything stupid like kerb hopping or even going off-road. My only thought is maybe weight given I'm 6'2 and a little over 90kg and usually have a backpack on thats between 4 to 10kg depending on what I am carting around.

What rims, what hubs, how many spokes on each wheel where they’ve broken, and what spokes?

And do you have rim or disc brakes?

Probably your wheels are just under built / you’re dropping watt bombs.

Rear wheel spoke breakages?

Fwiw I outweigh you by 10kg+ and I’ve never broken a spoke on 26” mtb, gravel or road. Including riding stock 24/20 spoke Shimano rim wheelsets for a while.

You probably need some handbuilt wheels with at least 32 spokes, 2-cross spoke layout at the rear.

Lots of custom builders have a heavy rider option - you shouldn’t need it at 90kg imo, but it’d be strong.

Also fwiw the hubs can make a difference too - hubs with wide flanges for the spoke make for a better angle that makes the wheel a bunch stiffer at the cost of a few grams in weight. Miche Primato hubs are especially strong on this front, and they have steel axles too.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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knifehitz posted:

Just a weird angle, normal size stock handlebars.

Most bikes come with vastly too wide a set of bars as stock tbh. I’d be more worried about the massive riser stem, though whatever works.

I’m 6’5”, broad shouldered and I ride a 40cm bar, most road bikes seem to come with 44cm or something in L or XL sizes, which is clownish.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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iospace posted:

So I've decided I'm getting a chain lock and leaving it downtown on one of the hefty bike racks. Any more specific recs?

Kryptonite fuhgettaboutit or however they spell it.

Or else some similar chain marketed to motorcycle riders.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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road potato posted:

I'm looking to get a commuter bike that I can also then turn to a fat tire bike for winter riding

You are doing the bike equivalent of buying a 5000lb 4x4 off road capable pickup truck for your short city commute because you need to “haul lumber” or something once every 3 years.

Buy a reasonable and sane commuter bike with fenders and hardwearing 35c tyres.

If you really want a fatbike for snow, buy one then, but a commuter bike with studded tyres added will be 1000x more capable for any practical use in bad weather on the road.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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Invalido posted:

That bike rack sucks for lots of people - what if you're a not very strong person who rides an e-bike to work for example? Still better than no indoor bike storage at all like at my workplace though.

I have en even worse one in my workplace - same setup by the bike is held by the front wheel sitting in a loop. So entirely incompatible with mudguards, which every commuter bike ever should have.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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iospace posted:

Looking for a good rain jacket. Any suggestions?

How far are you riding, how hard are you riding, and do you need to be on work clothes at the other end, or will you shower / change?

For city pootling on the flat you can get by with any long coat in light rain / short journeys. Your legs will get soaked in heavier rain

If you’re riding hard / far / hills, trying to be waterproof is pointless as you’ll just sweat through everything. I commute through UK winter in bib tights and a soft shell cycling jacket that keeps me comfortable but not exactly bone dry. Then change and dry everything.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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Groda posted:

The only good use for a helmet light is to point in the eyes of people with helmet lights.

Yep, offroad only.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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Dobbs_Head posted:

Looking for some tire advice.

I’ve gone about 1750 miles on my Kona Dew and got my first flat while commuting. I go about 7.5 miles each way. Had the bike shop fix it, but I got another flat today on the same wheel. I figure there is some dirt or grit stuck in the tire.

I’m running the stock WTB Horizon Comps (650x47c). I’ve loved them for performance and traction, never lost it on ice or slush. But flats on a commute suck and I think I want to step to something more durable. I got bike lanes, but there is literally broken glass in them sometimes.

Any recommendations for a one or two step tougher tire? Just switch to marathon pluses?

Normal marathons are a bit nicer to ride on than the pluses and similarly invulnerable.

Marathon supremes are a faster rolling slick version.

Pirelli Cinturato Velo are a nice middle ground between proper fast tyres and marathons, they’re tough, but roll really well and are tubeless. Only go up to 35c though I think.

Some of the continental touring tyres are worth a look too. Contact travel.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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Dobbs_Head posted:

But I figure moving toward a more durable tire will up traction naturally. I don’t want too big a change, though.

You have it backwards, soft rubber is grippy but doesn’t last long.

Hardwearing durable tyres last a long time but have worse grip.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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Ok Comboomer posted:

is it feasible to convert a singlespeed/fixed gear to Shimano Alfine?

is it feasible to convert to Alfine Di2?

various sites seem to say "yes", but my research (not to mention what's actually available) seem to say "probably not"

It’s one of those a cases where the money you “save” by using any part of your existing bike is about negative $1000, if it’s possible.

If you want alfine hub gears go buy a bike with it.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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stephenthinkpad posted:

If I have to ride in the dark I would get a couple of these

https://www.amazon.com/Rechargeable...&sr=8-5&x=0&y=0

I current have a front light that comes with the bike, and 2 extra USB lights that connect to the bikes USB port. If my USB lights die I would get that light bar.

All lumen numbers stated on the Amazon pages are inflated, so I just watch the user review videos. You are getting better lumen estimate from the size and weight of the battery than anything else.

For getting notice in the rear, IMO blinking red lights are still the best. They don't actually make big lumen for those. So I buy a few, glue one to the back of my helmet and put the rest on the racks of my various bikes.

I go through an unlit city park for a couple miles in the morning. But it only gets completely dark in the winter.

You’ll get other cyclists to hate you using anything like that headlight bar.

And blinking red lights at night are pretty bad too, especially if they have a “day flash” mode that someone in front of you has left on.

Also not legal for use in the road in many places.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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oXDemosthenesXo posted:

Where I'm from these terms are interchangeable.

What's the difference where you are?

How can they be interchangeable?

A saddle bag *hangs from your saddle*, and can include anything from a tiny puncture repair kit to a small overnight bag (e.g. Carradice) which hangs from special buckle mounts on old school saddles.

Panniers hang from a pannier rack (metal frame attached to the frame on the seatstays & near the rear axle). They don’t go anywhere near your saddle , and can be from 10 to 30 litres per side.

e.g. Ortlieb back rollers.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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deong posted:

I do not like paniers either. I have a similar setup to this instead. I can fit all my clothes and lunch in a rack bag.

Balancing a heavy and wind / view blocking load on your fork seems insane when the back of your bike is empty and much better able to take it without affecting your steering.

Get good panniers imo - but I currently commute 5 miles each way with a backpack just for convenience and versatility; abandon the bike at work and go drinking then home via public transport, or vice versa the next day, without having to decant stuff into different bags or think about it.

For a longer commute though panniers are far more comfy.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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Mr Newsman posted:

I've resigned to just changing.

Same, for at least 2/3 of the year. If it’s likely to be wet it’s crazy to soak real clothes when I have bibs/bibtights & jerseys/ jackets that are way more comfy and easy to wash and dry. I leave a stash of clothes at work.

Even in summer I’m likely to be going on an extended ride for fun/training immediately from work on half of my commute days, so I wear bibs anyway.

In summer when there’s not a heatwave I’m fine cycling in stretch jeans, and I have some vulpine cycling jeans that have no seams on the crotch and some little reflective bits that are perfect.

Underwear choice is important, you want no seams on the saddle - so under armour or some other sports underwear is good. Vulpine also do some merino ‘lightly padded’ boxer briefs that I might try at some point, though my commute is short enough not to care much.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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evil_bunnY posted:

The changing is never the issue, it's the sweating if you're not on an e-bike.

Become fitter / ride slower / wear less clothing.

Problem solved.

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wooger
Apr 16, 2005

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AEMINAL posted:

Wait, people DON'T change after biking to work??

If you have a flat-ish or downhill route of 5 miles, it isn’t raining, you have mudguards and can chill out and ride easy - yes it’s fine, no chance of breaking a sweat unless it’s roasting hot out.

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