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Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
I watched the first and last episodes of 1899 and it seems like they wrote themselves an excuse to do literally anything they wanted in the middle bits. My best guess as to what the middle bits might be and why they are indecipherable is just that they are all the subconscious fears, traumas, dreams, etc of each person's psyche leaking and getting mushed up in whatever crazy computer ai sim deal they have going on. I look forward to season 2 if it just becomes a spaceship show, wasn't into the titanic stuff.

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Kingo Ligma
Aug 24, 2019

Ask me about calling people racist because I failed geography.

Khanstant posted:

I watched the first and last episodes of 1899 and it seems like they wrote themselves an excuse to do literally anything they wanted in the middle bits. My best guess as to what the middle bits might be and why they are indecipherable is just that they are all the subconscious fears, traumas, dreams, etc of each person's psyche leaking and getting mushed up in whatever crazy computer ai sim deal they have going on. I look forward to season 2 if it just becomes a spaceship show, wasn't into the titanic stuff.

Please stop watching things. You don't know how to.

Grandpa Palpatine
Dec 13, 2019

by vyelkin
Just finished Dark. I'm going to have to think about it a while. The ending is making me depressed as hell though. 😣

Your Gay Uncle
Feb 16, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
The Entity is reaching back in time to remove Raised By Wolves to hide the true nature of Sol

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Vanderdeath posted:

Everything with Lee Pace is good. The rest, not so much.

Watched for Lee Pace, he is awesome, but the rest of the show was really bad. :/ I'll probably still watch season 2 if that happens because I am a bitch. I want to read the book one of these days, when I have the time lmao.

Red Fructidor
Jan 8, 2004

I said come in! posted:

Watched for Lee Pace, he is awesome, but the rest of the show was really bad. :/ I'll probably still watch season 2 if that happens because I am a bitch. I want to read the book one of these days, when I have the time lmao.

I actually read the first book after having a similar opinion of the show as you....and was severely disappointed in it. The couple of ideas the show picked out from the book were the only good ones imo, and the extra stuff with the clone emperors was superior to what was left :shrug: I was gonna bring that up recently in the Foundation thread, but those guys seem to have a reverence for the book (compared to the show) that I can't agree with. Just really, really disappointing and packed with trope after trope. I see how it was influential, but it has not aged well at all, even grading on an originality curve for the better later space operas it's supposed to have inspired.

Kaewan
May 29, 2008
I read it when I was a kid and that was my take as well. A few really interesting concepts that make you go “that’s neat” and that’s about it.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
Yeah I had read the Foundation books ages ago and the show is only related to it in a couple high level concepts and characters like Hari Seldon and that's basically it. Even the emperor stuff has been changed pretty drastically.

I like the show though, tbh the books would be almost impossible to adapt in an interesting way as a lot of it was just people arguing in meeting rooms. (so maybe something like Shin Godzilla). The Lee Pace bits are definitely the best, then the Jared Harris and then the rest is ok.

Haptical Sales Slut
Mar 15, 2010

Age 18 to 49

Grandpa Palpatine posted:

Just finished Dark. I'm going to have to think about it a while. The ending is making me depressed as hell though. 😣

I just finished the first season. Should I keep going?

Grandpa Palpatine
Dec 13, 2019

by vyelkin

Nuts and Gum posted:

I just finished the first season. Should I keep going?

Yes. It's one of the best shows I've seen in a while.

Haptical Sales Slut
Mar 15, 2010

Age 18 to 49

Grandpa Palpatine posted:

Yes. It's one of the best shows I've seen in a while.

:hfive:
Glad the quality doesn’t dive like most Netflix .

Eiba
Jul 26, 2007


I tried 1899 because I heard Dark was good but the concept of 1899 sounded more interesting.

I did not like 1899 at all, not because I couldn't get into all the dozens of the characters, but because every single one of their stories and plot developments was so unrelentingly miserable. I did only make it three episodes so maybe there's a bunch of grim introductions to leave room for more positive or at least nuanced twists later? I would be vaguely on board with the silly mystery if everything else wasn't literal torture.

I hear Dark has a better buildup or whatever, but does it build up to that kind of over the top emotional torture porn, or like, something actually interesting to watch?

Red Fructidor posted:

I actually read the first book after having a similar opinion of the show as you....and was severely disappointed in it. The couple of ideas the show picked out from the book were the only good ones imo, and the extra stuff with the clone emperors was superior to what was left :shrug: I was gonna bring that up recently in the Foundation thread, but those guys seem to have a reverence for the book (compared to the show) that I can't agree with. Just really, really disappointing and packed with trope after trope. I see how it was influential, but it has not aged well at all, even grading on an originality curve for the better later space operas it's supposed to have inspired.
As someone who likes the books quite a bit for what they are, you're really not wrong. I don't think you'd get a ton of pushback in the Foundation TV thread for this opinion. The discussions about the show being bad compared to the book are based around the show getting one of the couple neat ideas in the book exactly wrong.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

Eiba posted:

I hear Dark has a better buildup or whatever, but does it build up to that kind of over the top emotional torture porn, or like, something actually interesting to watch?

I have a very low torture show threshold and it didn’t get hit by Dark, it’s a bit heavy at times but it wasn’t unrelenting misery or anything. I found the ending to be pretty positive overall too despite a lot of stuff.

DamnGlitch
Sep 2, 2004

I liked the foundation show but it does seem like as a book it’s better as a Wikipedia dive than a read.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

It’s basically just a succession of conversations by clever science men about abstract concepts. Occasionally part of it will be about how one of them foresaw what the other was going to do and had a contingency in place to outsmart him, but oh no the other guy saw that coming and planned his own contingency to outsmart the first guy.

One of the sequels has a teen girl teaming up with an elderly jewish couple from like an old comedy radio series or an early sitcom. It’s oddly endearing if you find old shticky jokes comforting.

General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011

This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.

Red Fructidor posted:

Just really, really disappointing and packed with trope after trope.

What are tropes, op?

Eiba posted:

I tried 1899 because I heard Dark was good but the concept of 1899 sounded more interesting.

I did not like 1899 at all, not because I couldn't get into all the dozens of the characters, but because every single one of their stories and plot developments was so unrelentingly miserable. I did only make it three episodes so maybe there's a bunch of grim introductions to leave room for more positive or at least nuanced twists later? I would be vaguely on board with the silly mystery if everything else wasn't literal torture.

Great news friend! Absolutely none of that misery means anything! (whole season spoilers) In a few episodes a bell starts ringing and all the non-central characters line up and jump off the boat into the ocean! But don't worry, they might be back. After all, it's all a simulation on board a spaceship in the year 2099

Your Gay Uncle
Feb 16, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

General Battuta posted:

What are tropes, op?

Great news friend! Absolutely none of that misery means anything! (whole season spoilers) In a few episodes a bell starts ringing and all the non-central characters line up and jump off the boat into the ocean! But don't worry, they might be back. After all, it's all a simulation on board a spaceship in the year 2099

Agreed. Dont read this if you dont want 1899 spoiled. this was all a dream/simulation is the weakest type of ending. They didnt need 10 episodes to build up to that. 6 maybe. Lots of filler.

Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?
I'm 2 episodes into 1899, didn't mind to be spoiled as I'm not that into it. I'm definitely going to be That drat Goon that constantly lets on that he has figured it all out when watching with wifey

toggle
Nov 7, 2005

I just finished season 2 of this wonderful milk snake show, knew it was cancelled beforehand, but powered on through. Such a shame, there was nothing quite like it. Carnivale 2.0 :smith:

I thought Grandmother pulled off the latex robot bodysuit look better than Mother. I would like to be de-evolved by that milk nana

There’s no more risks on tv now, lots of shows exist, but 95% of them are dogshit.

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!

General Battuta posted:

What are tropes, op?

Great news friend! Absolutely none of that misery means anything! (whole season spoilers) In a few episodes a bell starts ringing and all the non-central characters line up and jump off the boat into the ocean! But don't worry, they might be back. After all, it's all a simulation on board a spaceship in the year 2099

haha oh my. i gave up on this show after two episodes because it seemed like it was going to be a never ending mystery box, but this takes the cake!

DamnGlitch
Sep 2, 2004

I was 100% okay because of how well they did dark. So giving them 3 seasons and then pulling the rug out was a really lovely… well everything about it on Netflix’ end was loving lovely.

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

L-Shaped


Nap Ghost
https://tvline.com/2023/01/31/cancelled-westworld-the-nevers-streaming-roku-tubi-release-dates/

what the gently caress is tubi lol

PlushCow
Oct 19, 2005

The cow eats the grass

It’s where you can watch Columbo

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

L-Shaped


Nap Ghost

PlushCow posted:

It’s where you can watch Columbo

I thought that was Peacock

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Remember Mother? She's back - in awful statue form!

ogarza
Feb 25, 2009
So are we back?? Or are they just hosting the existing episodes?

https://gizmodo.com/hbo-max-discovery-roku-westworld-1850303038

General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011

This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.
They're just rehosting what already got shot.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
cool sculpture, why reds mad about it?

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Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

ogarza posted:

So are we back?? Or are they just hosting the existing episodes?

https://gizmodo.com/hbo-max-discovery-roku-westworld-1850303038

This just Zaslav moving content to ad supported free services.

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