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XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
If you spend all day locked inside a classroom with 30 other teenagers and a teacher, that's fine.

You won't die of the virus (unless you decide to have underlying health conditions, like an idiot) so it's cool.



If you go play football in the park after school with six of your classmates, that's a £100 fine.

After all, you might not die but you could get really hosed up and kill your parents and grandparents, which is not cool.


I'm glad we've learnt our lessons from the last six months, got the testing system all sorted out, and prepared for the inevitable mass school closures (which have already started) by planning for effective remote learning.

It would have been crazy if we'd just assumed all schools will be running full time all year so we don't need to bother with that sort of thing.

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XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

Mega Comrade posted:

Schools should be the first things that open and the last things that close. Distance learning doesn't work well with smaller kids and for some families its just not doable at all. Shutting and restricting other things to allow schools to remain open is a good thing, its what the government is restricting and in what order is the bad thing. That pubs opened before schools shows exactly where the Governments priorities lie.

I agree with prioritising schools, I just meant that there are already schools with hundreds of students self isolating for a couple of weeks because of a positive test for someone at the school only a week or so into them reopening, so presumably there's going to be a significant number of students missing multiple large chunks of school this year.

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

NotJustANumber99 posted:

I think its the height of rudeness to not at least inform the person to whom you are speaking that you have them on speaker phone and that any passing tom dick or harry could be party to their mumblings.

a guy at work has had two separate incidents where he's had someone swear profusely over speakerphone when his kids were in the car

although, to be fair, in the one I was responsible for I think I just launched into a rant when he picked up the phone so he didn't have a chance to say anything

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

Regarde Aduck posted:

We're in the 'believe our own lies' stage where they think they can stop the acceleration of infection while people have to go and work in buildings. Going back to work in closed rooms was never safe. They lied but have no idea what to do. I just wonder whether they are nihilistic and don't care or are panicking and just assumed we'd have 'something' that would make things better. Some treatment that meant only the weakest would die and gently caress them.

it's literally like the last six months never happened

cases are rapidly accelerating, they're doing the northern Italy thing where they're like "oh we're X weeks behind France and things are starting to get bad there. Anyway, things haven't got bad here yet, so lets not do anything right now"

they're even putting off closing things like pubs down in order to not damage the economy again, even though it's incredibly obvious that just means you'll eventually have to do it anyway and probably for even longer

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
I wonder if they'll ever remember that the covid threat level existed

namesake posted:

vvv lol I'd forgotten that was a thing. Are we still a 3?

you and the government both

we are presumably still at three, because the last news stories about it are from when they moved it down in June, but it's not actually published anywhere as far as I can tell so we could be at extra hot and just not know it

XMNN fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Sep 11, 2020

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

Gorn Myson posted:

Labour make it very easy for me not to vote for them because the people currently in charge have spent the last five years claiming that us on the left are stupid, child-like cultists/thugs and then actively sabotaged a project that we got personally invested in that might have improved this country even the tiniest of fractions in order to run on a "these Tories have some nice ideas actually" campaign.

Now they're demanding we shut the gently caress up and get in-line behind them. They can gently caress off.

this

they absolutely do not want my vote, so why should I give it to them?

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

Lungboy posted:

I think Raab was also a human rights lawyer which says everything.

I read a bit more on the subject and apparently abstaining rather than voting against gets you political good will when it comes to amending the bill or some shite.

they've got an 80 seat majority, why on earth would they let labour have any say at any stage

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
halal "secret" lol

do they think the little sign they put in the window is like the hobo code

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
I joined unite and did the political contribution, and I feel a lot better contributing pennies rather than pounds and not having to see "your direct debit to the Labour party has been paid" pop up on my phone every month while I watch this utter shower of cunts fail to do anything useful for anyone whilst actively trying to piss off the people who worked so hard for a socialist government the last time

I still feel a bit bad about even that level of support for Keith's project, but it's much more manageable

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
it makes sense, if you need to be taught that they can be disregarded then you're not one of the people who's allowed to disregard them

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

OwlFancier posted:

https://twitter.com/SebastianEPayne/status/1311376237873582083

Not sure whether the great british channel weather control device or the great british pontoon bridge of caligula is the stupider option.

presumably we're meant to think that they were concerned that the risk of capsizing boats was too high, but it seems much more probable that they thought it was unacceptably low and we should just sink them directly

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

keep punching joe posted:

Good job the government made the most of lockdown to drive down the case numbers and build a world beating track and trace system.

Oh.

I think this is a problem for any sort of extra restrictions now

in march the trade off was "stay inside for a few months and we'll use the time to get everything sorted out and go back to something approaching normal"

what's the trade off supposed to be now? "stay inside for another few months and we'll continue to do nothing useful with your sacrifices, then we can do this all a third time in another six months"?

also they'll blame you for the virus whether you follow their instructions or not

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

Surprise T Rex posted:

It suggested "creative and media" for me, to which I thought "oh hey, that could make sense, something like game development is my ideal career" only to click on the button to show more detail and be told that I should be an actor presumably because I said I'm comfortable talking in front of people and can read well.

I said I wasn't comfortable talking in front of other people and it suggested I should also be an actor, so it must just be your ability to read

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

Pistol_Pete posted:

Trump's apparent easy shrugging off of Covid is pissing me off. Him dying of it just before the election would have been such an aesthetically perfect ending to his presidency. Hubris followed by Nemesis.

have you seen his most recent video?

he definitely hasn't fully recovered no matter what he says, he looks like someone has attacked him with a can of wood varnish and the bits of him that aren't dark orange are extremely pale

they had two days to shoot/edit a video of him and they still can't make him look like he's not dying

plus he was even more manic than usual which might mean they're still pumping him full of steroids

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
he's going to abstain again isn't he?

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
I'm confident that Starmer will show zero tolerance to this, as he does all forms of bigotry, so we can expect him to say nothing at all and maybe in two months Angela Rayner will say he ought to reflect on his conduct.

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

minema posted:

So as numbers continue to rise nationwide and in the North West specifically, the only actual change is that pubs in Liverpool are shutting? I was expecting a little bit more substance...

not quite

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/12/pubs-selling-food-stay-open-under-stricter-merseyside-lockdown-covid


quote:

Pubs that serve food will be allowed to remain open in Merseyside while so-called wet pubs will have to close under tougher coronavirus rules due to come into force later this week, the Guardian has been told.

Boris Johnson will outline a new three-tiered lockdown system on Monday under which Merseyside will be in the strictest category.

Under the tier 3 restrictions, Merseyside MPs were told on Monday that “food-based pubs” would be allowed to stay open but those that do not “substantially” serve food will have to close for at least a month.

The measure, which would permit all Wetherspoons and other gastropubs to stay open, is likely to spark further confusion about a system that was designed to clear up months of inconsistencies around the government approach to local lockdowns.

although I suppose it's entirely possible that the stuff they're anonymously briefing to the guardian is different from what they'll actually do

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

Communist Thoughts posted:

i suppose part of the issue i'm seeing with this move is that this gives the government a way of doing the lockdown while not losing the anti-lockdown electorate, because they can just blame "lockdown labour" an angle we've already seen from kuensberg

making it look like they're bowing to pressure from labour probably pisses off the anti-lockdown backbenchers more if anything though

I'm not bothered about him losing that electorate, it seems to skew majorly Tory anyway and we're four years out from the election

my issue with him doing it now is that it just underlines the fact that he could have pressed the government on this at any point he chose to but then decided not to, when having done so might have pressured the government into being slightly less poo poo

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

Grey Hunter posted:

Oh, hey, isn't today the day that Boris said we were just going to walk away from a trade deal?

yes, but he was lying

https://mobile.twitter.com/Brexit/status/1316305047752507392?s=20

hard to believe, I know

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
how stupid (and evil) do you have to be to do it a second time, let alone at Christmas with the whole tiny Tim/Scrooge angle

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

quote:

Yet for squashing Covid-19 flat, Ardern’s New Zealand has paid a terrible economic price. In the second quarter GDP fell by 12.2 per cent. That’s smaller than Britain’s fall, but it is a horrendous collapse considering the far lighter footprint of coronavirus in New Zealand.

he's literally arguing that their response would have been better if more people had died, because then the economic damage would have been worth it

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
can't believe those idiots bought a rock that keeps tigers away, I chuckle to myself from inside the tiger

e: also I bought a lot of rocks that didn't keep tigers away

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

More on the now deleted tweet from the young conservatives:

source: graun/politics/2020/oct/21/manchester-young-tory-hits-out-at-boris-johnson-over-covid-restrictions

https://twitter.com/MancTories/status/1300783582886146048?s=20

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

lol of course this guy runs serco

quote:

Soames was born in Croydon, to Christopher and Mary Soames. He is a grandson of Winston Churchill, a nephew of one-time Defence Secretary Duncan Sandys and his wife Diana Churchill, of journalist Randolph Churchill, and of actress and dancer Sarah Churchill, and is a great-nephew of the founders of the Scout movement, the 1st Baron Baden-Powell and his wife, the Baroness Baden-Powell. His brother is former MP Sir Nicholas Soames.

love this normal island

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

goddamnedtwisto posted:

If you need to buy more than one car, let alone a couple of hundred, the tax and accounting situation gets insanely complex if they're not all new and from a fairly limited pool. Also warranties, and liability if it turns out the second-hand car you bought for Simpkins in Regional Sales is stolen or has had improper maintenance in the past.

I think it's mostly this, but also the sales people at my old company were all absolutely obsessed with that poo poo and they wouldn't be caught dead in a car that was more than three years old if the management tried to make them (which they wouldn't because they're the golden boys)

they also wouldn't drive anything other than a bmw, so they'd all get the lovely little coupes rather than something nicer, larger and with fancier gadgets but a less glamorous marque

e: i don't think coupe is the right word, the small stupid looking ones

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
https://twitter.com/TanyaGold1/status/1321115989392662528?s=20

this lady doesn't seem too bright

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
eh, if they're not going it's not safe and if they are it is or they're going to get hit first

e: I guess if you're trying to turn left immediately it might be safe for you but not them, but I don't trust people to indicate/position themselves properly so I don't really like pulling out unless they're very clearly going to carry on going round

XMNN fucked around with this message at 12:02 on Oct 28, 2020

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
I think that's when they expect the EHRC report to drop

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
if you suggest at any point that any allegation of antisemitism might be in bad faith or politically motivated you're part of the problem, i.e. basically Hitler

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

quote:

“As a man he’s extremely nice,” Charie said, sharing an anecdote of how Corbyn had visited a local school soon after becoming Labour leader – “you wouldn’t get Boris Johnson doing that.” But Charie said he had concerns about Corbyn’s politics, not least his stance on the IRA. “And this antisemitism thing doesn’t seem to be going away.”

lol I think this p much sums up how hosed we are as a country, guy literally knows from personal experience that Corbyn is a nice guy and still goes "but he loves terrorism and is a nazi"

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

quote:

Another minister said: “I think Rishi is going to have to take over. Boris’s brand is being trashed every day.”
I know the Tories are a death cult and there was the whole Dishy Rishi thing, but I'm not sure it's the best idea to replace bojo with the guy who insisted even more people die while also loving the economy

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
I mean you could just not volunteer to kill people for the British government

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
not politics related (other than landlords upon landlords and privatised utilities), but I'm struggling to work it out by googling things:

I've just moved into a flat and had a guy from openreach come round and try to activate my internet or whatever.

He tested the only (non-virgin media) phone socket in the flat, said it "wasn't connected to anything" and then decided it had actually just been an extension anyway (I have no idea on what basis) and went off looking for a master socket.

He then found some wiring disappearing into the frame of the front door, said it could be phone cable and decided that this had probably been the original entry point for the cable and stuff would need drilling etc. There's nowhere obvious for a socket to have been and no power outlets near it, but the flat had just been redecorated so I thought it was conceivable it had been taken off and the area painted over.

I said I would have to ask for permission from the landlord (and probably the building's landlord), so he said he would pass it back to openreach. When I checked with her re drilling, she said the existing socket was the only one there had been and it was what she had used for internet/phone when she lived in the flat.

I told that to Zen (who openreach had passed it back to), but they don't seem to have actually read my email and have asked me again to confirm that I have permission to drill.

I don't know much about telephony, but I assume the other end of the socket is probably just connected to the actual cabinet in the street? I can't see anywhere in the building where there could be phone connections. The guy never actually went to the cabinet, so I feel like someone could have just disconnected the wire going to my flat at some point. The last tenant was on virgin media so I presume they wouldn't have noticed.

do I just ask them to please make sure it's plugged in or is there something I'm missing?

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

Guavanaut posted:

Depending on the age of the socket, the master socket will either have a gas tube lightning arrester in it (and will need replacing, because they gently caress with newer broadband) or will have an NTE5 faceplate that comes off. Extensions won't, so he probably decided on that basis.

A self stroking pianist.

Yeah, it's an old one and I've just had a look inside and there's nothing that looks like it could be an arrestor, so that's probably it!

Z the IVth posted:

Depending on when the socket was last used the line itself may have been disconnected as you suspect. You mentioned the previous tenant having Virgin so a year of disuse could have led to disconnection. I'm surprised that Openreach didn't figure that out though.

I think that's mostly just down to the order of events. Once you've decided it's not the one you need and there must be another one somewhere, finding something that looks like it could have been one at some point sort of terminates that thought process with "well someones ripped it out and I'm not equipped to put it back in, so there's not much I can do right now"

Anyway, thanks for the replies! I just wanted to make sure I hadn't somehow completely misunderstood how phones work before I asked them to make sure it's plugged in.

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
lol

I think you'll find it was the other notorious rapist/human trafficker that put me in the address book actually :smug:

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
it goes in the bin

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

thanks i hate it

weren't they supposed to be pretending this entire thing isn't purely factional weaponisation of antisemitism tho?

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

Jose posted:

ignoring everything else around it i want boris to explain how the laser guns will be powered such that they'll always be able to fire

you just plug them into the nearest mains outlet duh

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
I forgot it was anti-bullying week lol

https://twitter.com/AvaSantina/status/1329742146556076038

oh well, at least they used the rest of the week to demonstrate their commitment to tackling bullying

https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1329229770383568896

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XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
lol that even tier 1 is work from home where you can now

guess that's about as close as they'll ever come to admitting that "get everyone back in the office to save pret" was a loving stupid idea

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