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A+ OP image.Bobby Deluxe posted:My sister in law has given up all pretence of social distancing and in the last week has been out on a date, two meetups with her skating friends and a rounders game with her friends family, who posted a photo to facebook of the fifteen of them standing with their arms round each other. I can understand this. Even I'm starting to get fed up with the level of precautions I'm taking, and I'm probably among the most paranoid regular posters about this stuff - but I'm also panicking about going back into work for like 2 hours tomorrow (probably pointlessly, as they've already acknowledged that they probably don't need me in in person for the foreseeable future). People for whom the thing isn't as severe, or who haven't understood how severe it is, at this stage I really struggle to blame for just giving up and going back to normal, because the government has screwed up and confused its response SO heavily that it's basically impossible to know what to do, AND it's been going on for so long that anybody would have gotten antsy and wanted to just... stop... with this poo poo. Good lord I'm tired of it. But it doesn't go away just because you're tired of it. thespaceinvader fucked around with this message at 09:26 on Sep 1, 2020 |
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Guavanaut posted:Not facing up to that must be the best explanation for the protests over the weekend, because they don't make sense in any other light. They make perfect sense in the light of there are thousands of hours of pure misinformation out there about masks, on youtube, on right wing TV generally, mostly in the US but the Algorithm doesn't care where it gets its eyes from. The people not bothering with the restrictions (i.e. just going on about their lives without putting a mask on in the shops, not arguing about it, just... not caring) are the ones rebelling against it because they just can't be arsed any more and not facing up to it still being necessary. The ones going to protests because masks reduce their oxygen or actually absord virus particles and make it more likely for you to get it, or don't actually work or the vaccine that doesn't exist yet is actually mind control chips designed by bill gates to use 5g to make the frogs gay or whatever the gently caress at the ones who have been brain poisoned by extreme right wing thought of the kind you see in the US stuff in the politoons thread. I don't think it's about not facing up to something, I think it's about them simply having genuinely lost most of their rational thought about it. There's no real way to get through to them without cutting off the firehose of insane wrong that's aimed straight at their faces basically the entire time. CGI Stardust posted:Actually, 'Offices have always been the most efficient way to work' would have been true even up until like... 5 or 10 years ago, when the vast majority or records were still on paper, and even the ones that weren't were mostly on hard drives that were location-specific and difficult to access remotely. It just isn't true any more. Which I don't doubt he knows, but you gotta shill for the bosses.
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I mean, at least they're paying stuff that goes to workers rather than just chucking a direct bung at the corps I guess. Except the £1500 setup fees part which is obviously just a straight up bung, the employers will likely charge the employees for the uniforms anyway, and bill them 20 grand for the 1.5 grand training scheme.
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Sep 2, 2020 08:12
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We certainly call him Carl of Swindon but IIRC he ran for parliament in cornwall or somewhere.
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Sep 2, 2020 13:05
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Isomermaid posted:I don't get the nostalgising for old timey bins. There's a term for it I can't remember, but this is a well known thing throughout history. Everyone thinks the past was better than the present. We're not immune to it - and heck from a purely personal perspective, my life is probably better than almost anyone's in history, up to and including nobility from any decade earlier than like... 1900. Just because the world is on fire doesn't mean I can't play D&D with people I've never met via the internet.
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Sep 2, 2020 16:23
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The 'kids these days' thing is also universal, as is the '$new communication method will make people uncommunicative and antisocial unlike in MY day', but I was more getting at the like... veneration of certain historical things. Current society venerates the second world war and the founding of the NHS, (but not the socialism bit), the Nazis venerated the Romans, the Romans venerated the Greeks, etc etc etc
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Sep 2, 2020 16:58
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The place I found out about it had a lot more examples, with interstitial examples, but I can't fukken remember any of them, I was hoping someone would prompt me. Like I think it mentioned the Victorians and something, possibly the renaissance? It was a youtube video I've consumed a lot of them over the last 6 months.
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Sep 2, 2020 17:01
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loving U turn it was never a turn at all. It was a vague allusion to going straight on not being as good without an audience to sing along. Does it count as a U turn if they were going in a direction, never stopped going in that direction, and kept going in that direction? loving hell if they can redefine 'u-turn' in common parlance as 'going straight on' I may just lose it.
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Sep 2, 2020 17:06
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the sex ghost posted:The only thing that's kept me paying the licence fee is BBC 4 because if they stop getting public money I'll never get my fix of obtuse documentaries. I'll miss 'historian in nice shirt and beige pants looks at statues for an hour' and 'history of motorway signs' I think once Attenborough finally succumbs to age, I'll probably try in vain to persuade my wife to stop bothering. We mostly only watch repeats of quiz shows and occasional dramas any more, and I'm honestly not convinced we wouldn't get more out of spending the same amount per year on renting stuff off google play or whatever.
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Sep 2, 2020 17:14
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Nutapii posted:You would think a media organisation would be better at communication - "we didn't do Rule Britannia because we didn't want it to look and sound terrible due to distancing, we're focusing on small/solo acts" isn't exactly hard to repeat. They communicated exactly what they meant to.
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Sep 2, 2020 18:53
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Lie detector tests are just horoscopes for cops only all the entries say 'don't trust this criminal scum' for some unknown reason.
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Sep 2, 2020 23:21
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Lungboy posted:Anyone laughing out loud on the tube is a serial killer. IDK the people who were laughing when that racist poo poo got lamped last week seemed all right.
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Sep 3, 2020 13:40
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Corbyn winning was a freak accident of the sort that would never happen again. Don't doubt that. BalloonFish posted:5) The left don't do anything to consolidate their power, either by further changes to the internal election rules or by removing/neutering the right of the party, or to ensure that there's a new generation of lefties to take their place. But I think, ITT, we tended to underestimate several things about labour, and still tend to: - just how right wing the central beauraucracy of the party is. It's not just soft left or centre left, it's people who maybe started out that way, but hanging out in the corridors of power for so long, and drifted gradually more right wing. Some of the people we're talking about have been in post for 15 to 20 years, or have been moving around between the top levels of the unions, labour, the cooperative party, etc etc. They're not just not socialists any more, they're outright conservatives, at best, and neoliberals at worst. - just how long it takes to change things. Most things in the Labour party can be changed maybe once a year. This means that when there ARE leftist things happening, it's more difficult for the right wing to reverse them when it takes power, but it also means that if the right wing has consolidated power, it's going to take significantly more time to change things than we think it should, or than we want it to. - just how BIG the beauraucracy is. It's not just the NEC, or head office, it's EVERY SINGLE CLP. Very, very few of them are even majority leftist, let alone exclusively so, and they're often, even in the most vibrant and active labour areas, ram packed with small-c conservative (i.e. change-resistant) old people. So, even if, for instance, young lefties want to make change on a local level, they don't just have to persuade the bulk of the members of their given policy (which is gonna be a challenge, because as noted, a LOT of active members are old and change-resistant), they have to get it enacted by a party beauraucracy AND probably a local council that deeply, deeply doesn't want to risk any change. - just how difficult it is to change an MP, doubly so in the last couple of elections which have been called with minimal notice, which REALLY hurts leftists. It's very difficult to get a good candidate selected, because of a LOT o the above stuff. First, you need to have time in the first place. It takes months to select a candidate, and the last two elections have been called with so little notice that by the time a proper free selection had taken place, the election would already have happened. Then, you have to have a vacancy - because there's not an easy way to recall and replace a candidate who's a shitheel, vis, Kate frigging Hoey. So, if you've got time, and you've got a vacancy, now you need an appropriate candidate - someone who's got adequate experience, someone who's a decent public speaker, and a decent leftist, and old enough. And now, you need to get your very conservative membership to vote for them over like... the retiring MEP, or the successful centrist grifting local councillor, or... etc. NOw, you've selected your candidate - and you send the results of the selection vote to the beauraucracy, which the party hasn't been able to de-liberal, because it takes YEARS to do that even with a cooperative beauraucracy, and they return your candidate, who despite your good, socialist, strong public speaker with a good record, good qualifications, etc etc wining the majority of the votes, is that successful grifting local councillor. Because the beauraucracy has the final say. There's more, obviously, that's just the first few issues that come to mind. It's a lot of complaining. What's the solution? There may not be one. But these measures will give a modicum of assistance. Stop paying these peoples' wages with your subscriptions and donations. Stop supporting the party, because even at the best it has been since the early 70s, it did not support you. Join your local mutual aid group, build local connections. Join your union, and push where you can for it to stop supporting Labour. Vote against the entrenched old guard leadership of it when you get the chance. Ideally in the long run, the solution would be a novel leftist party which pulls a plurality of the unions away and gets their support and political contributions, but is run by a beauraucracy which is less abominably lovely. But even that will be a challenge, and I'm not sure that it's possible to accomplish before it's too late. Like, the world needs leftist leaders to win basically every election in the next 5 years, and collectively demolish the entire system of capital ownership and remake it with less perverse incentives. Or revolution. thespaceinvader fucked around with this message at 16:49 on Sep 3, 2020 |
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Labour chat: I honestly doubt the beauraucrat wreckers had shown their hands. The PLP hosed it up because they are, mostly, pretty loving terrible at everything given how many of them were the worst sort of public school>ppe>spad track types forced in in the BLair years, through th process I noted above, so they're just... not that competent, and have been huffing their own farts so hard they think they're actually wanted by anyone. E: 15 years ago, in September 2005, Egypt held its first multi-party presidential elections, which were marred with accusations of fraud. thespaceinvader fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Sep 3, 2020 |
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It's a mix of both, but the mix is sharply weighted towards the press side of things. There's also tribalism to think about, too.
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So did Corbyn's. Whch is why I say policy is a relatively small part of voting intention. It's much more framed by the press, the broader media, and the social environment.
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It's the telling expose about how bad corbyn was or something. One of them, anyway. So far all they seem to be exposing is how much of their own farts the authors have been huffing.
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Sep 4, 2020 14:59
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Lady Demelza posted:If we're going to be hosting a goon farmers' market, I can contribute some rhubarb and strawberry infused gin. I will bake many brownies and cakes.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:uuuuuggghhhhhhhh my head is killing me fluids and electrolytes. have some orange juice or something. But actually, go back in time and drink some water before you go to bed. No, more than that.
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it's pronounced 'brufen' who really has time for the whole word?
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Sep 5, 2020 16:35
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That sucks WhatEvil. I hope you can manage to see her soon.
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Continuity RCP posted:The economy is in the shitter so we can't raise the wages of people who need and will spend it, because ??? Don't be silly economies are't held up by people spending money they're held up by shoving hundreds of millions of pounds to already-wealthy corporations and billionaires.
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Sep 6, 2020 13:10
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Lady Demelza posted:I've been meaning to get a Co-op membership for years. There's one right on the corner and if I'm going to pay more for my laziness, I should at least sign up to get points or whatever it is they offer. The points are worth a few quid a year if you shop there regularly, and free, so it's worth doing, and you get a say in how the org runs too which is nice.
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Sep 6, 2020 14:57
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I'm frantically eating way too many beans from mine because they all went out of date and whilst they're still broadly fine, I'd prefer to keep stuff that's in date.
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Borrovan posted:Imagine if every penny the gammonfolk spent out of pure spite went to a good cause instead Given that gammonfolk includes several 10+billionaires, they absolutely could end hunger.
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Desiderata posted:Urgh I just saw the trailer for Amazon's remake of C4's Utopia, and it looks terrible - no beautiful colour palette, no wonderful sound track, just bland looking - and you really have to question the ethics of releasing a show in 2020 where the virus is just a cover for a dark conspiracy to give everyone a vaccine intended to sterilise most of the human race. If you haven't watched the original, and are somehow still in the mood for something dark while living in the hell year, go watch the original - as a reminder British TV is occasionally able to produce something wonderful and weird. Wait reamking Utopia? The original was amazing, why the heck would it need remaking. But yeah, it's worth a watch, even though it is deeply, deeply weird and disturbing, and doubly so now.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Excluding fuel costs, how much do you reckon it costs to run a small car for a year? Depends HEAVILY on how much you drive (and hence, the maintenance costs), how reliable the car is (same), and how cheap insurance is both for you and the vehicle. Minimum is going to be £55 per year for MOT, and probably a few hundred every few years for tyres, oil changes, screen wash, etc, plus some tax (unless you buy an exempt vehicle or are exempt for other reasons, commonly related to disability). Insurance at least a few hundred, probably a lot more as a new driver without an established no claims bonus. Maximum is ????? cars which need more maintenance and parts are gonna be more expensive, cars bought on hire purchase obviously have monthly costs attached, etc. If your driving isn't all that common, though, you might be better off comparing the prices of local car club schemes and/or rentals, depending what you're using it for. But honestly, if you're starting from the point of living in a reasonably built up area with half decent public transport and taxi services, and not having a license at all, and don't usually need to travel between cities/towns which aren't well connected by public transport, you're probably better off not bothering. thespaceinvader fucked around with this message at 15:10 on Sep 7, 2020 |
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I used to live in London (zone 1 for a few years then zone 3) and that's why having a car and being a driver was something I never needed given the absolutely fantastic public transport system that London has (and which I did not fully appreciate at the time!). Now though living in the styx the bus services were poor before covid and now they're atrocious and it is becoming a big holdback to me. I can't go to Cardiff, Bristol or London without it having to involve an overnight stay! If you wanna do inter-city without using public transport, you're likely to be better off finding some way to drive it, doing long distance private hire vehicles is gonna be prohibitively expensive quickly, and I doubt that it'll be cheaper than a car unless you're only doign it a few times a year.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I have no driving licence. I failed my test 4x in the 1990s and decided there were better things to waste my money on - living in London made driving unnecessary. So I couldn't drive intercity even if I wanted to! I know, you said. Finding a friend with a license or learning yourself was implied.
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Jose posted:Lol at anyone thinking starmer wasn't going to be monsters TROOOOOOOOOTS The loving trots are to blame for loving everything aren't they? I've been hanging in super-lefty circles for ages and I genuinely don't think I've ever met anyone who self-identifies as a trotskyite. What must it belike living in the mind of someone who imagines trots on every corner?
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Jose posted:The big brained centrists like no deal brexit now Politicsball.txt. The important part is winning the game, not the people that winning or losing the game affects.
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I... assume they have a way of stopping you getting COVID from blood donated by someone who had it right? Or is it not transmissible that way? E: quote:But it will not apply to schools, workplaces or Covid-secure weddings, funerals and organised team sports. So... none of the things that loving matter, then.
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Guavanaut posted:It's very profitable when the state and institutions pay people to create things and then you can pay 50p to copy it and charge £50 to access it. Don't even bother stealing them, just email the author of record, chances are they'll be happy to send you a copy.
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Sep 9, 2020 13:08
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academic papers if you don't have work/uni access, you're not stealing from the people that did any of the work.
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Do people not just... grasp the light patterns of all their local junctions? Is that just me?
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goddamnedtwisto posted:The button always does something, it just may take longer at certain junctions, and may not be *required* at others. . Don't make me draw diagrams. On the ones where it's always the same sequence, it doesn't do anything except make a wait light come on, thoguh.
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Sep 10, 2020 09:34
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OwlFancier posted:Given the usual effects of cooking sugar I think everyone's scarred by it. Do not insert the sugar into your orifice until it has cooled and you will not be scarred.
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Sep 10, 2020 15:35
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wait there's a shitposting thread? wait this isn't the shitposting thread?
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Having a good sofa that works as an actually comfortable bed is useful for entertaining guests. Or at least, it used to be, as our friends have gotten older they're tending more and more to just stay in local hotels, at which point I'm seriously considering replacing the sofa.
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Vitamin P posted:Modern right wing comedy is a little baffling maybe but it does actually concretely exist, what I find more baffling is that modern left wing comedy apparently doesn't. Aside from like four regulars at The Angel, and I'm assuming other local scenes, left wing comedy just sort of stopped at the Stewart Lee level; very meta, entirely outflanked by literally anyone under 30 that voted for Corbyn and whisper it not actually that funny. Leftie comedy exists - or existed - on the live comedy circuit, especially at edinburgh and the like, but it's been dead on tv for years if not a decade, because commissioning editors aren't interested in commissioning it.
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