Going Bananas - Let's Play Zelda: The Lost Kingdom Of The Banana Blood God

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Watermelon Daiquiri: Jul 10, 2010; I TRIED TO BAIT THE TXPOL THREAD WITH THE WORLD'S WORST POSSIBLE TAKE AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS STUPID AVATAR.

They are just sokobon games after all

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Watermelon Daiquiri: Jul 10, 2010; I TRIED TO BAIT THE TXPOL THREAD WITH THE WORLD'S WORST POSSIBLE TAKE AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS STUPID AVATAR.

s'okay

# ¿ Oct 17, 2020 17:57

Watermelon Daiquiri: Jul 10, 2010; I TRIED TO BAIT THE TXPOL THREAD WITH THE WORLD'S WORST POSSIBLE TAKE AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS STUPID AVATAR.

Explopyro posted:

I've seen discussions about this kind of thing in game design before, I think part of the problem comes down to "game designers like making and playing games, so they make game design into a game where the players are their opponent". And that's not a mentality that tends to lead to good end-user experiences. It's trivially easy to make a game that nobody can beat, and doing that is bad game design, but that's where this kind of thinking leads. Some game designers really do seem to think that making players suffer reflects well on them.

Or to put a slightly different spin on it, it's "ooh, what can I do to show off how clever I am" rather than "what will this look like to someone playing it". You see this a lot with ROM hacks and fangames especially, because a lot of them are being made first and foremost for the person making them (or maybe a small dedicated audience with specialised skills) and the creators aren't thinking at all about what it's like for a general audience (or any audience). And they're either playtesting it themselves or drawing playtesters from a very dedicated audience, so they're getting very skewed feedback if any at all. It doesn't have to be malice, just indifference.

This game started off pretty strong and looks like it had a fair few good moments and well-designed areas, but by the end it just looked miserable. And I have to say, the reward for actually slogging through all of that being "HAHA LOLRANDOM aren't we such trolls" is really off-putting to me. The tone of this has been all over the place, and there's nothing wrong with any one of the particular tones they've used in various places (I didn't hate all the writing in this!) but the combination of this form of humour (which I must admit I don't care for at the best of times) with it being the culmination of everything this game put you through just feels like a slap in the face to me. This is not the note you want to end your game on, especially if you've just finished torturing them with a helldungeon.

to be fair, for the case of most rom hacks you can argue that the point of them is to provide the challenge for the people with said skills. However, even then you do still run up against a design that is legit challenging and one that just punishing. Recovery, I think, is big way of ameliorating the later in favor of the former-- the sting of defeat isn't nearly so bad when you just respawn right at what got you rather than re-trekking allll the way from the beginning or wherever.

# ¿ Oct 29, 2020 17:58

Watermelon Daiquiri: Jul 10, 2010; I TRIED TO BAIT THE TXPOL THREAD WITH THE WORLD'S WORST POSSIBLE TAKE AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS STUPID AVATAR.

Your voice sounds fine! The only way I can tell is because I have a decade of experience with my own voice and I know how it works. It seems to me you are at that phase where's mostly consistent but tiring (vocally) to use? That'll pass with, as everything, practice. :shobon:

# ¿ Oct 30, 2020 04:22

Watermelon Daiquiri: Jul 10, 2010; I TRIED TO BAIT THE TXPOL THREAD WITH THE WORLD'S WORST POSSIBLE TAKE AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS STUPID AVATAR.

DimiPZC posted:

My voice is the one that goes "Blood Lasso? Yes!" in the middle of it. It sounds not at all feminine and just sounds nasally

Oh dear. Egg on my face :blush:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3913464&userid=165971#post506589008

# ¿ Nov 1, 2020 08:02

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