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You called the Azeris salafists in the post the guy's quoting! Come on bro!
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mila kunis posted:i think he was referring to the turkish backed jihadis If they're jihadis and not just mercs, why would they be going to Nagorno-Karabakh to try and help Azeris out?
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Oct 1, 2020 15:49
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THS posted:they get to kill the hated armenian I bet they're headed to LA and Moscow next.
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Oct 1, 2020 15:53
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THS posted:i mean probably not but the fact that turks were beating the poo poo out of protesters infront of their american embassy means whatever point you’re making is pretty weak My point is that this war isn't about bloodthirsty salafist (lol) brutes coming to chop up Christian Armenians due to their ethnicity or religion. That might motivate some of the people fighting, but probably not most of them, and it's certainly not why Azerbaijan is attacking, or why they're being supported by Turkey, or whatever.
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Oct 1, 2020 16:03
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mila kunis posted:sorry is there a contradiction between being paid for war and also being a religious reactionary ? they're advancing that cause in syria and turkey finds them useful and is pulling some of them for use in the this war Sure, they can be jihadi mercs or salafist mercs or Chechen mercs or whatever. But the operative point, in this case, is that they're mercs. That's why they're there.
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Here's a good video on the background posted earlier in this thread. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS3P9kk-vFk
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Oct 1, 2020 18:02
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Vasukhani posted:The only glaring bad take on the Armenian side is westerns who are repeating myths that all of historic Armenia was homogeneously Armenian. Incredibly, I see neither Armenians nor Azeris in this pic. Seems like the whole place needs to clear out.
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Oct 5, 2020 21:14
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Syncopated posted:How many ethnic cleansings have there been in the last 20 years actually? Myanmar, what Sri Lanka did to the tamils might count I’m not 100% sure. China, Syria? Let's expand it to 30 years. What's this... Azeris? Ethnically cleansed... hang on, looking into it a little bit more... Nagorno-Karabakh? Wait a sec!
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Oct 12, 2020 13:01
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sum posted:Early 1990s are famously part of the 21st century. Nice epic dunk idiot. The two examples you gave about why it's so hard now to do ethnic cleansing aren't from the 21st century either. Anyway, my point wasn't to make an epic dunk on you, just to point out that any discussion on the issue of ethnic cleansing in Nagorno-Karabakh probably must include the ethnic cleaning that took place there like 25 years ago during its capture in war, and subsequent occupation.
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Oct 12, 2020 16:42
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spankmeister posted:I'm sure their Israeli friends can help them with building a lot of settlements quickly in occupied territory. Who's in occupied territory?
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Oct 21, 2020 01:01
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uninterrupted posted:Azerbaijan will literally ethnically cleanse any land they get, happened in the last war. This area, outside of the original NK oblast, is literally ethnically cleansed Azerbaijan territory occupied by Armenia for the past 25 years.
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Nov 10, 2020 02:52
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uninterrupted posted:Yeah, exactly, and Azerbaijan will do the same thing in reverse, it’s the whole nature of the conflict. If the reports are true, there will be Russian soldiers to act as peacekeepers. Don't you think it's a little offensive to look at a place that has been ethnically cleansed of Azeris and occupied for decades, and just announce that obviously the Azeri refugees who are coming back to their homes are clearly going to ethnically cleanse the Armenians living in the area?
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Nov 10, 2020 03:14
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Ardennes posted:For the hundredth time, Azerbaijan was ethnically cleansing Armenians in Baku and other regions at the same time. It was mutual brutality. There should be truth and reconciliation, right of return if desired, reparations, etc. for the victims of pogroms and ethnic cleansing in Baku. But it doesn't make the ethnic cleansing in NK or its ongoing occupation just, and it doesn't mean that the return of internal refugees to NK is some kind of ethnic cleansing campaign fait accompli.
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Nov 10, 2020 03:24
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Succbot Circlejerk posted:No way it's totally racist of you to expect ethnic cleansing, I said with incredible wokeness, chiding my fellow poster for yet again expecting the worst of warring factions of brown people overseas, even though they're white and that I can't be bothered to look up anything about them before wokescolding in their defense. I didn't say that further ethnic cleansing is not possible, or not something to be concerned about. But presenting the return of ethnically cleansed Azeri refugees to the region as necessitating ethnic cleansing really is troubling, don't you think? Its the same thing Turkish Cyprus says, and the same thing Israel says about returning to 1967 borders. Oh no, we can't give back this occupied territory, they'll just ethnically cleanse us back!
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Nov 10, 2020 03:33
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uninterrupted posted:the only reason you don’t think there’d be ethnic cleansing will happen is that it would be somehow offensive. please look up the first NK war, both sides brutally massacred civilians. No, I do think ethnic cleansing could happen. I don't think it will necessarily happen, and I think that posts presenting the return of Azeri refugees as necessitating ethnic cleansing are offensive.
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Nov 10, 2020 03:41
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:offensive lol people are being lynched live on stream atm I'm not watching livestreams of the conflict, but are you referring to the Armenian member of parliament? Somehow I don't think that the Azeri special ops were the ones who got to him.
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tristeham posted:lolling at the "armenia should have just joined nato" discourse in d&d I will not read D&D but I wonder what the nato defense rules are about disputed territories like Nagorno-Karabakh. Obviously an attack on Armenia proper would require Nato to help in defense, but probably no member countries would have accepted NK as part of Armenia. So I doubt it would have helped.
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