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ratbert90 posted:The one where he disparaged UHC, BLM, the GND, and refused to condemn police brutality? Most voters are perfectly fine with Biden advancing healthcare and environmental policy away from the current burning tire fire they are in under Trump and don’t particularly give a poo poo that he doesn’t attach his name to existing proposals he didn’t craft himself. While he could have been more supportive of BLM, I don’t think anyone was expecting him to yell “gently caress the Police” and cede the rest of his time, while his opponent is actively calling for BLM to be wiped out and is openly endorsing white supremacist groups. I’m not sure how anyone to the left of Nixon is having a hard time finding some motivation to vote after that debate...
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spacetoaster posted:"I am the Democrat party" Joe isn't going to listen to any of us and I'm not going to be fooled into thinking he will. Even if he’s a dastardly Clintonian or Obamacrat, the status quo they set out was better than Trump sabotaging every federal agency, stacking the judiciary, undoing all the EPA regulations he could, and actively loving over everyone while grifting his way through 4 years. I can’t begin to comprehend why you feel a candidate must act as your personal sock puppet for legislation to justify voting against the guy currently dismantling democracy by sabotaging voting, encouraging militias to “watch” the polls, and preemptively declaring he won’t cede power.
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SKULL.GIF posted:"They're just mad that their life raft isn't ostentatiously, uselessly trinketed," a very cogent criticism of leftists It is when the primary is over and some of said leftists are declaring in favor of SKULL.GIF posted:Obama's ineffectual centrism led to Trump. The EPA was running and regulations were expanded under those dem admins, healthcare was expanded as well, and various other causes important to the left, yet here we are hemming and hawing as Donnie “White Supremacists on Standby” Trump readies to double down on ending every leftist cause he can get his hands on. No matter which leftist would theoretically be elected, their administration would be imperfect and the political pendulum would swing the other way the way it has throughout US history.
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Sep 30, 2020 04:35
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ratbert90 posted:The point is Joe and the DNC are bad and shouldn’t be rewarded for their terrible behavior. Everybody should vote 3rd party instead of for the people who looked at the boat that was listing to the right and decided that moving more and more to the right was better than moving to the left to center the boat. Yes, this will work out great, just like after 2000 and 2016 when we suffered through terrible presidencies due to close margins and yet after all the suffering a socialist utopia didn’t materialize. Maybe if we do it again...
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Sep 30, 2020 04:45
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Minrad posted:a really good lesson to learn from the past four years would be that the letter of the law doesn't matter, and only when you actually enforce it does it have any meaningful impact. having a bunch of regulation to stop any old dipshit from running in elections makes sense, sure, so you don't have your entire political process gummed up with idiots spamming it just to keep it from working, but strictly enforcing it to stop long standing political parties from getting on a ballot to try and gain votes for your own party is no different from republicans ignoring any of donald's illegal activities in office. it's blatant corruption and defending it makes you no different from the nazis. Counterpoint: If they can’t navigate very basic bureaucracy, how are they expected to seriously function in government?
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Sep 30, 2020 04:51
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Minrad posted:it's not very basic, by design. in fact it's made overly complicated by the two ruling parties spread across 50 states all with differing mechanisms to encourage nobody else to be able to take power away from them. you think that's a good thing? Please provide examples of particularly complicated legal requirements that were unfair to them. Please exclude any that gave them notice of their error and provided them a period of time to correct it.
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Sep 30, 2020 04:58
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HD DAD posted:Because they don’t want to admit they want a second Trump term. Alternatively, they enjoy the performance and get a thrill at being able to complain about whomever gets elected while being perfectly “pure”
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Sep 30, 2020 05:05
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Kreeblah posted:https://elections.wi.gov/sites/elections.wi.gov/files/2020-09/2020AP1488-OA%20%2809-14-20%29.pdf A clerical issue resulting from having multiple conflicting addresses listed on ballots by the campaign isn’t terribly complicated and should have been cleared with evidence to address the discrepancy, not unlike updating an address with the DMV. Apparently there was a delay in appealing the issue, which should obviously have been appealed immediately and ideally prevented altogether.
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Sep 30, 2020 05:25
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Kreeblah posted:So what you're saying is you didn't read it. I stated what I got out of looking through it, but would you care to enlighten me with your grand wisdom?
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ratbert90 posted:Now is not the time to vote for change! You need to vote for Mondale! We need to beat Reagan! Exactly. If you want leftists instead, the time for changing it was during the primaries and it would read: Now is not the time to vote for change! You need to vote for Bernie! We need to beat Trump! (Because of course Bernie would be accused of being a compromise candidate and a closet centrist, just like he already was in this very thread)
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