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Bacter
Jan 27, 2012

Nie wywoluj wilka z lasu, glupku.
Thread input I need board members, goons. I need people I can TRUST, and I need them coming up with IDEAS. I need a name for our factory, which is so obviously going to be ours I don't even need to justify it.


You know what? You know what?, 2020?! YOU KNOW WHAT?

You TAKE, and you TAKE, and you TAKE.

ENOUGH, I SAY.

We're taking something, now! All of us goons are! We're taking something BACK! AND YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA BE?



IT'S GONNA BE A CANDY FACTORY.

IT IS THE DUMBEST TREASURE HUNT I HAVE EVER SEEN, IT IS ALMOST CERTAINLY A GRIFT SOMEHOW BUT WE ARE DOING IT

Lots more lore in the second post.

But tl;dr? An insane old man who struck gold with a fancy jellybean back in the 70s, and has spent his entire life since then making the worst candy I can imagine, is trying to be Willy Wonka and give away a candy factory (or at least pretend like he is. Come on.).

You buy a riddle, you get the riddle, you solve the clue and find a golden dog tag (assuming it actually exists) - there's one in every state.

You send in the tag, and you get a chance. To win. The keys. TO YOUR VERY OWN FACTORY.

Is that good? ARE YOU KIDDING? ALMOST CERTAINLY IT'S A NIGHTMARE!

But I'm going to OWN that factory, goons. I'm going to own it, and I need a board I can count on. A board I can trust. A board I can rely on.

Can I count on you? Do you have what it takes?

THIS IS A TREASURE HUNT AND I AM HERE FOR IT
(click above for link to hunt)

I'm going to buy a riddle (I and my closest in-thread confidants, see the fundraising section in second post for details), I'm going to SOLVE the riddle, I'm going to find the TREASURE associated with that riddle, and when I DO, I'm going to OWN a CANDY FACTORY.

And as a starter? I'd like a name for the factory. Because when we take control, there are going to be some CHANGES. And the first? "Candyman Kitchens" is what they call that degraded slum where the bee hook man kills people. We need a NAME. We need a BETTER NAME. What is the name, o goons, of our candy factory?

Bacter fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Oct 4, 2020

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Bacter
Jan 27, 2012

Nie wywoluj wilka z lasu, glupku.
INCOMING CONTENT:

HISTORY OF THE CANDYMAN AND CONTEST


picture is a link

FUNDRAISING / BOARD MEMBERSHIP


Q&A



CHOCOLATE RIVER OF IDEAS



BOARD MEMBERS

Bacter fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Oct 2, 2020

Bacter
Jan 27, 2012

Nie wywoluj wilka z lasu, glupku.


Think THIS can't be candy? Read the HISTORY OF THE CANDYMAN to be proven wrong, like a big stupid ape.

This factory has to be shut down, and we're the ones to DO IT.

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



I am goddamn on board to buy riddles, even if it's late at night and buying riddles has been advised against by my doctor, who does not actually exist currently

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
I'm a filthy Brit so I have no hopes of owning this factory but I'm an ideas girl and I am full of ideas!

Call the factory Randy Candy. Lace all the products with Viagra.

Blaziken386
Jun 27, 2013

I'm what the kids call: a big nerd
how can we come up with a great name if you wont even tell us what kind of candy you'll be making??? c'mon now

e: i mean, obviously HE made jellybeans but are you going to continue the tradition, or will you go crazier, we need details to make an informed Punny Name

Black Robe
Sep 12, 2017

Generic Magic User


Rarity posted:

I'm a filthy Brit so I have no hopes of owning this factory but I'm an ideas girl and I am full of ideas!

Same here! Let's call it the Boston Candy Party.

Quackles
Aug 11, 2018

Pixels of Light.


There's no way this is going to work out, but human nature is to watch from a distance (preferably with something in range you can easily duck behind). I'm bookmarking this, at least.

BraveLittleToaster
May 5, 2019
Bootleg Willy Wonka? Unorthodox candy?

I will be observing these developments closely. I must.

Arcanuse
Mar 15, 2019

wasn't too sure about this. some time later, realized the hat fellow was a link.
The thread title makes sense now.

godspeed, you mad, mad soul. I fear the candies the collective Willy Goonka advisory board will come up with.

inflatablefish
Oct 24, 2010
I'm definitely getting on the ground floor of this one. Let us call our grand enterprise sCANDYlous and manufacture delicious confectionery candles that somehow also make public your salacious personal secrets!

Pyroi
Aug 17, 2013

gay elf noises
i thought this was going to be a joke thread

oh no

CirclMastr
Jul 4, 2010

When it comes to candy company names, you gotta look back at what successful companies did in the past. Hershey and Mars were just the names of the founders. We just add a little flare here and we get the perfect name for a goon's candy factory:

Bacteria

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...




+1

It should be against the law to name a candy factory something other than a terrible pun.

Blaziken386
Jun 27, 2013

I'm what the kids call: a big nerd
sCANDYlous is pretty great, not gonna lie

Bacter
Jan 27, 2012

Nie wywoluj wilka z lasu, glupku.
sCANDYlous is the early breakout hit for me.

About candy? I’m going to start a tally of every candy currently made by this unholy factory - members of my team (you!) will be able to

- suggest a new candy
- suggest an existing candy for removal

I’ll be honest, I’m just as excited to stop production of Pig Boogers (tm) as I am to start whatever new unholy abominations we’ll come up with.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Stop don't come back

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Whatever new candy enters production, I hope it appears unsettlingly alive.

CirclMastr
Jul 4, 2010

Are we supposed to be suggesting actual candy ideas and recipes, or just making poo poo up?

Bacter
Jan 27, 2012

Nie wywoluj wilka z lasu, glupku.

Captain Hygiene posted:

Whatever new candy enters production, I hope it appears unsettlingly alive.

Right, so, I’m getting a little ahead of myself first (plan of action is to: 1) discuss the contest in detail, 2) reveal the riddle and start theorycrafting on it, 3) begin to create our forthcoming lines of candy, office policies, etc.)

But I do want to register one line of candy now. The theme will be “unsettlingly realistic and lifelike” and the candy line will be named the Uncandy Valley

CirclMastr posted:

Are we supposed to be suggesting actual candy ideas and recipes, or just making poo poo up?

there is a place for both. We need to go wild with ideas, because creation is the soul of.... candy... or something, but also, I need you to understand, when we win this candy factory, we are going to make this happen. We need recipes, logicstics, workforce management.

Bacter fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Oct 2, 2020

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Bacter posted:

the Uncandy Valley

:five:

I brought my Drake
Jul 10, 2014

These high-G injections have some serious side effects after pulling so many jumps.

Pyroi posted:

i thought this was going to be a joke thread

oh no

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Bacter posted:

there is a place for both. We need to go wild with ideas, because creation is the soul of.... candy... or something, but also, I need you to understand, when we win this candy factory, we are going to make this happen. We need recipes, logicstics, workforce management.

And what are you offering in the way of financial renumeration for our labour? :colbert:

Bacter
Jan 27, 2012

Nie wywoluj wilka z lasu, glupku.


This is OUR factory, so we will of course all share in the explosive profits that come from shaking the candy world to it’s core.

This guy thought “what if jello bean but flavor” and made more money than many people will in their LIVES. I want a piece of that!

Dreadwroth2
Feb 28, 2019

by Cyrano4747
I too thought you were kidding, oh no it's real?!
Hoooooooly shiiiiiit.

The Lord of Hats
Aug 22, 2010

Hello, yes! Is being very good day for posting, no?
So, there's jelly beans. And we've had a lot of flavors of jelly beans. A lot of flavors. All the way to horrible gross-out jellybeans.

Science has gone too far.

We will make jelly beans that taste like beans, dammit. Like God intended.

Black Robe
Sep 12, 2017

Generic Magic User


Bacter posted:

But I do want to register one line of candy now. The theme will be “unsettlingly realistic and lifelike” and the candy line will be named the Uncandy Valley

Perfect.

I'm thinking maybe something like a Jello shot, containing what might be bits of candy, or might be little sea monkeys. Did that one move? Who knows?

Also:

The Label posted:

"Suitable" for vegetarians

Inverted commas where they really shouldn't need to be are always unsettling.

Blaziken386
Jun 27, 2013

I'm what the kids call: a big nerd

The Lord of Hats posted:

So, there's jelly beans. And we've had a lot of flavors of jelly beans. A lot of flavors. All the way to horrible gross-out jellybeans.

Science has gone too far.

We will make jelly beans that taste like beans, dammit. Like God intended.
I hate the flavor of beans, and yet, I love this idea

could they be sold in a can, as well?

imagine seeing something like this in the candy isle, thinking it must be a joke, trying them... and nope, they're candy beans, alright.

It'd fit well into the uncandy valley idea

inflatablefish
Oct 24, 2010
Candy beans, in syrup, sold as a dessert rather than a snack. 8-year-old kids would love it!

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
I feel like we're overthinking things here. If we are going to sell bean-shaped candy that tastes like beans then we would cut down on manufacturing costs massively if we grew our bean candy naturally. Instead of fussing about with chemicals we can just plant a few seeds and wait for them to grow to harvest.

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe

Rarity posted:

I feel like we're overthinking things here. If we are going to sell bean-shaped candy that tastes like beans then we would cut down on manufacturing costs massively if we grew our bean candy naturally. Instead of fussing about with chemicals we can just plant a few seeds and wait for them to grow to harvest.

Sir and/or ma'am, this is a ludicrous suggestion. We're getting a candy factory, not a candy farm.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

TooMuchAbstraction posted:

Sir and/or ma'am, this is a ludicrous suggestion. We're getting a candy factory, not a candy farm.

Whybird
Aug 2, 2009

Phaiston have long avoided the tightly competetive defence sector, but the IRDA Act 2052 has given us the freedom we need to bring out something really special.

https://team-robostar.itch.io/robostar


Nap Ghost


cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather
Wow. That sure is a thing and that guy looks trustworthy.


Black Robe posted:

Inverted commas where they really shouldn't need to be are always unsettling.

This means that, without disrupting their eating habits, a vegetarian can use them to suit themselves. Like by gluing them to their hats.

Bacter
Jan 27, 2012

Nie wywoluj wilka z lasu, glupku.
Oh my god everybody I found the factory. I’ve got such an update coming. I’m honestly jealous of all of you, getting to learn what I’ve learned today for the first time.

BraveLittleToaster
May 5, 2019
Here's hoping there's a candy river of some sort running through it.

Aww, who am I kidding, there's never a candy river.

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

BraveLittleToaster posted:

Here's hoping there's a candy river of some sort running through it.

Aww, who am I kidding, there's never a candy river.

A river of alien pee. It was not supposed to be there.

Dreadwroth2
Feb 28, 2019

by Cyrano4747
Is it a haunted ghost factory full of spooky phantom jelly beans?

EclecticTastes
Sep 17, 2012

"Most plans are critically flawed by their own logic. A failure at any step will ruin everything after it. That's just basic cause and effect. It's easy for a good plan to fall apart. Therefore, a plan that has no attachment to logic cannot be stopped."
Oh snap I just heard about this from the McElroy Brothers, time to get in on the ground floor.

Whatever happens, one of our flagship products has be Goondrops, right? They'll be like gumdrops, but bitter and angry.

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Bacter
Jan 27, 2012

Nie wywoluj wilka z lasu, glupku.
Alright, I promised an update, and here it is.

I just want to tell you, before we start this, that what you're reading here is absolutely not available elsewhere. I have done what, to my knowledge, is by FAR the most extensive research into this stupid thing available anywhere, except POSSIBLY in David Klein "The Candyman"'s own head. And that's a MAYBE. I certainly know more than everybody who did an interview with this monster.

This is going to be collected into an SSLP test post (and linked to from the FP) to avoid having these pages be infinity long, but for now I want it out in the open. I'm proud of it.

We're going to dig in, and dig good, into "Candyman" David Klein's plans, and see what they mean for US.

An early, and good question was raised: "Bacter! You're asking me to do lots of mental and emotional LABOR. I'm going to be coming up with candy ideas, distribution plans, HIRING SCHEMES! What am I POSSIBLY getting in return?"

And the answer is: a share. A share in the winnings. All my partners in this company will get a slice. Of course, not all partners are equal... and we'll go into that later. But maybe, just maybe, before we start on this whole scheme, I need to tell you what we're standing to gain.

I need to tell you about



And we'll tackle this in two parts. First, we'll go into the nitty gritty of what we theoretically, and legally stand to gain.

Next, comes the awful truth: what we actually stand to gain.

RIGHT!

PART THE FIRST: THE LEGALESE OF THE CONTEST, OR, SURELY TWENTY PAGES OF SMALL PRINT IS NO BIG DEAL, RIGHT?

The Gold Ticket Dot Com posted:

PROMOTION DESCRIPTION: The Tricky Treasures Treasure Hunt (the “Treasure Hunt”) is conducted by solving a riddle or series of riddles (the “Riddles”) for one of multiple hunts (each a “Gold Ticket Treasure Hunt”) and one final game to solve a riddle or series of riddles (the “Ultimate Treasure Hunt”) and is conducted in the United States (the “Territory”) each beginning on the date and time posted on the Sponsor’s Website (the “Treasure Hunt Period”).

So this thing appears to be... sponsored? Organized? Funded? By "Tricky Treasures Treasure Hunt".

Tricky Treasures Hunt has a twitter account.



which links to... two.... different webpages, by "the creator of Jelly Belly jelly beans"... which is... Klein. That's the guy doing this other one too. Each appear to have cash prizes for solving riddles, and each one has free tickets, UNLIKE "the gold ticket".

There's Tricky Treasures itself, and TickerGold? TickerGold says the prize is "The Treasure Vault cash value is 100 Shares of Tootsie Roll Stock(not the actual shares)

wh...what?


This page has a youtube link that leads you to THE YOUTUBE CHANNEL FOR THE GOLDEN TICKET WHAT

You know what? Let's come back to this. Focus, Bacter.

Ok, one more thing. I should just say now, the terms and conditions of The Gold Ticket seem to be a boilerplate copied and pasted from Tricky Treasures Treasure Hunt's page. I THINK they want other companies to pay them to facilitate similar treasure hunts.

For instance, the bottom of the Gold Ticket Terms and Conditions reads

Gol' Ticko posted:

Opt-In By freely supplying your mobile number, you agree to receive text messages from (Organization Name Here). Reply STOP to cancel, HELP for help. Msg & data rates may apply.

So, clearly copied and pasted without a LOT of care.

Also, I'm not ONE HUNDRED PERCENT SURE here? But there's language peppered throughout like

This guy posted:

For individuals who are less than the age of majority in their state of residence, you may not participate.

that makes me think this wasn't drafted with a lawyer.

Anyway, ahem!

The participant in this contest will be ME, Bacter. I'm of legal age and a resident of the United States, excluding Guam, Puerto Rico, and the Virgin Islands. Check.

I'm not employed in the candy industry, in the advertising industry, or "involved in the creation, development, or implementation of this Treasure Hunt" and I'm not "any other persons or entities directly associated with this Treasure Hunt and any members of their immediate families or households ", check.

I'm PRETTY sure it's fine if any of you are. Do any of you work for Nestle? Let me know.

Nuts posted:

In the event that Sponsor determines that two or more individuals entered the Treasure Hunt as a group, the Entry will be disqualified and the entry fee will not be returned.

But we aren't entered as a GROUP. I'm going to be the one who wins it, and I'll decide what to do with my winnings afterwards PSST WE'LL SHARE IN THIS THREAD PSST.

There is one golden ticket hidden in every US state, so 50 nearly simultaneous hunts. For whatever reason, the hints for each state aren't made available at the same time. My home state isn't even on the RELEASE DATE SCHEDULE yet. (A very nearby state is already out!)



Legalese posted:

Entry: Each Gold Ticket Treasure Hunt is $49.98 and will provide Participant with a Riddle or Riddles and access to their own account (the “Adventure”). Payment must be made at the time you select your Gold Ticket Treasure Hunt. A maximum of 1,000 Adventure participants will be permitted for each Gold Ticket Treasure Hunt. Sponsor will conduct multiple Gold Ticket Treasure Hunts during the Treasure Hunt Period. If fewer than 100 Adventure are purchased for a specific Gold Ticket Treasure Hunt, Participant selecting that specific Adventure will receive a refund at Tricky Treasures discretion.

So, this sounds like a sneaky escape clause to me. I'll be fronting the cash for the golden ticket treasure for my state (or one near it - if it isn't available within the week). If fewer than 100 people enter, he can decide to call the whole thing off and refund the money, so that it's impossible for him to give out more in prize money than he makes in ticket sales.

But c'mon, what are the odds of THAT?

Rules rules rules posted:

e. The first Participant to send the Code on their Gold Ticket and the location where it was found, as verified by the Sponsor, will be declared the winner of that specific Gold Ticket Treasure Hunt (the “Finder”) and upon verification will receive the Prize for that specific Gold Ticket Treasure Hunt.

f. Participant may enlist anyone they wish to form a team (the “Team”) for a Gold Ticket Treasure Hunt.

g. Hints. During the Treasure Hunt, Sponsor may provide clues (the “Hints”) which may assist Participant or their Team in solving the Riddle. The release of Hints is at the sole and absolute discretion of the Sponsor.

BOOM. Clause F. You're all in.

Also... G? Does... does he have a guy on the inside? And is allowing himself to just tell somebody where it is?

As the kids say, SUS.

laws posted:

At no time will the winner be selected by a random draw. This is a game of skill.

This is said like 5x. I'm pretty sure this is some legal thing, since we're paying to enter?

Rulz posted:

The Sponsor shall have complete discretion to interpret these Official Rules and any other aspect of the Treasure Hunt, and expressly reserves the right to refuse to award any prizes to anyone who in the Sponsor’s sole and absolute discretion is in breach of these Official Rules or otherwise fails satisfactorily to establish their eligibility to claim a prize or win. Riddles may only be shared in private with your team, as well as being discussed within the private forum operated by Sponsor.

So... I guess let's keep the riddles in this thread, ok? And I elect everybody reading to be on my team. Check.

Also, that 'sole and absolute discretion' clause is... bugging me. I'll get into it later.

RIGHT THAT WAS SUPER BORING

LET'S GET INTO THE CASH CASH PRIZES YO

prize posted:

PRIZES:
a. Fifty (50) Gold Ticket Prize will be awarded. Each Gold Ticket Prize will consist of
$5,000 cash, or cash equivalent as determined by the Sponsor. The total
approximate retail value (the “ARV”) of all fifty (50) Gold Ticket prizes to be
awarded in the Treasure Hunt is $250,000 USD.
The Gold Ticket Prize Winner solely is responsible for all federal, state, local, and
other taxes on receipt of the prize. Sponsor shall not be responsible for any
taxes, fees, or assessments on any prize winnings.



SO

My plans for this one: I'm going to put up the money for the first ticket. It will either be in my home state, as long as it's at least posted for release within one (1) week of today. If it's not, I'll get it for a state within a 1 hour drive. Easy life.

When I find that golden ticket, I plan on keeping a chunk of the prize money. If one of you comes up with an answer to the riddle, and it's right, and I find the tag, I'll give you $2500, and keep $2500. That seems fair to me, since I'm the only one assuming any financial risk. If I come up with it myself, I'll keep the whole thing.

If it's more complicated than that, like, somebody comes up with a clue that heavily puts us on the right track, but I TECHNICALLY solve it, let's arbitrate that as a thread when we get there.

NOW:

There's another possibility. You can enter in more than one state. There are up to 50 clues we COULD purchase. I'm not putting up for two or more tickets, though. But I AM open to the possibility that other people might want to! If we get together, let's say $40 or more, I'll pitch in the last $10 for more tickets. I'll do this as often as we get together $40. If we find the tag in a state where we crowdfunded the ticket, I'll give out prize money in 1/50th shares, one share earned by putting up $1 towards the ticket.

If you don't want to put up money towards a second ticket, you could ALSO 'sponsor' part of the ticket I bought. Put any amount of money towards that option, and you'll get x/50th of my prize money when I win. That's x/50 of 2500 dollars (50:1 return) if somebody else guesses the clue, or x/50 of 5k if I figure it out, or $2500 + x/50 of $2500 if YOU figure it out.

If Klein cancels the contest, or our entry for whatever reason, I'll just refund whatever you spent.

We'll talk details later. I need a fully transparent way to do it (gofundme?) and, to be clear, this thread happening is 100% NOT dependent on this. I'm planning to buy the first ticket, and we can just roll with that.

The long and short of it is, if YOU have any skin in the game, you get a share in the prize money regardless of who guesses it. If you DON'T, but you DO solve the riddle, you get half.

BUT THIS IS STILL BORING! WHAT ABOUT THE FACTORY

I'm glad you asked. (Bolding by me)

AW YEAH HERE IT IS posted:

b. One (1) Ultimate Treasure Hunt Prize will be awarded. The Ultimate Treasure Hunt Prize will consist of one candy factory currently owned by David Klein, as determined by Mr. Klein in his sole and absolute discretion; mentoring for one (1) year by David Klein; and registration in the Resident Course in Confectionary Technology at the University of Wisconsin (https://foodsci.wisc.edu/extension/candy/virtual_information.php). If, within a year of winning the Ultimate Treasure Hunt Prize the course is offered in person, the winner will be provided round trip coach airfare from the airport nearest their home to Madison, WI airport.



So, that's already crazy, right? The factory, PLUS a year of mentoring by the inventor of Uncle Urnie's candy ashes, PLUS enrollment in a candy-making class, PLUS airfare to madison WI to TAKE the class. I guess I'll just quit my job.


BEHOLD, THE WONDERS

Details! posted:

The Ultimate Treasure Hunt Prize is a working candy factory and includes the real property, along with all equipment, select lighting fixtures, plumbing fixtures, and other items as will be designated by Mr. Klein in the Bill of Sale (the “Candy Factory”). Excluded in the transfer of the Candy Factory is any personal property, customer accounts, ingredients, proprietary formulations, and anything not specifically indicated here.

The real estate and business assets will be evaluated prior to transfer to establish a then-current value. No representation is made by the Sponsor regarding the current fair market value of the Property or the likelihood of maintaining the Candy Factory as an ongoing concern. All decisions related to the Candy Factory described herein shall be at Mr. Klein’s sole and absolute discretion. The Ultimate Treasure Hunt Prize shall be awarded “AS-IS” and “WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND BY SPONSOR OR ANY OTHER PERSON”, expressed or implied, (including, and without limitation, any implied warranty of merchantability or fitness for a particular purpose). The real property designated as the Candy Factory herein shall be conveyed to the Ultimate Treasure Hunt Prize Winner without representations or warranties, express or implied. Deed recording charges and closing costs shall be the responsibility of the Sponsor. Sponsor will pay real estate transfer taxes, if required by the county or state at time of closing. Current and future real estate taxes, title insurance, hazard and liability insurance, operation fees, assessments, and all other taxes, costs, fees, and expenses related to the maintenance and ownership of the Candy Factory shall be the responsibility of the Ultimate Treasure Hunt Prize Winner as of the date of transfer.

The Ultimate Treasure Hunt Prize Winner solely is responsible for all federal, state, local, and other taxes on receipt of the prize. Sponsor shall not be responsible for any taxes, fees, or assessments on any prize winnings. The Ultimate Treasure Hunt Prize Winner will be solely responsible for complying with any and all applicable statutes, laws (including, without limitation, common law, if applicable), rules and regulations and for bearing any personal income tax, withholding taxes, or other taxes, fees, insurance, surcharges or other costs relating to receiving, claiming or collecting any prize. The Ultimate Treasure Hunt Winner is hereby informed of the liability to pay all taxes on the prize received; such taxes shall be paid by the winner and are not the responsibility of Sponsor. Ultimate Treasure Hunt Prize Winner shall be responsible for reporting his or her individual income tax generated from the prize to relevant tax authorities on his or her own.

So... a few things here.

First... "select" light fixtures?

Like, they're taking the working light bulbs?

Second... this is kind of highlighting what a nightmare this would be for me if I won it. Taxes! Property maintenance! Keeping that river of chocolate flowing! HIRING A WORKFORCE!

But this second property, just like the first prize, is share and share alike. THIS I PLEDGE.

If we, no, WHEN we win this candy factory, I am going to make what I will call a "full-throated" effort to produce as close as possibly to the candies decided on in this thread, and to sell them. Whatever nonsense we come up with here, as long as it complies with federal laws and won't get me arrested? We're going to go for it. We're going to SELL the uncandy valley. We're going to SELL bean-flavored jelly beans.

We won't sell a LOT of them? But we might just get our own documentary where Weird Al rolls his eyes and can't wait to be elsewhere.

And the profits? We'll divide those up. Share, and share alike. It's really the same deal as above. You put in money, you get shares.

You contribute an idea for a candy line? You'll get a share of the profits from that line! You come up with a new and insane use for fondit or something? Cash in, baby. I can't stress how willing I am to have this be the stupidest inspirational movie you've ever seen.

Nothing can stop us.

Nothing that is....

EXCEPT REALITY! WELCOME TO PART THE SECOND: WHAT WE STAND TO WIN IN REALITY

Let's dive in, folks.

I told you that Klein sold his patent for Jelly Belly in the late 70's. I've seen '79 and '80 thrown around as dates.

He was either a) pressured into the sale by the sort-of-but-not-really intense factory that was MAKING the candy, or his partner at the time, or b) just needed some fast cash.

I thought he got just over 3m, I've also read 5m, and as low as 2.1m, paid in monthly increments of over 20 years (firm details on ANYTHING with this guy are hard to come by). Sounds like easy street, right?

Well - it is if you don't have David Klein size dreams. As detailed before, he wanted IN on the candy industry.

And he founded an avalanche of candy companies.

With his wife, Rebecca, he founded Can You Imagine That Confections, which sold mostly gross nonsense:



It sold only in massive bulk quantities, which probably means he got it made elsewhere and, after failing to sell it piecemeal, tried to offload in bulk, which also failed.

With his daughter, Roxy, he founded Nifty Candy, which sold "Sandy Candy edible sand", which really seems like just pixie stix, and...


DAMNIT KLEIN, YOU'RE A LOOSE CANNON!

yes, gross nonsense.

It also seems like they spun off "The Original Sandy Candy" into its' own company, which also put out a furious message saying "IF ANYBODY WAS DIRECTED TO BUY SAND CANDY FROM ANYBODY BUT US WOULD YOU PLEASE TELL US"

I read an interview with Roxy in "women you should know" magazine, where she says being a candy maker is her dream job, but whatever the future holds, she wants to stay in the confection industry.

As of 2019, she's a registered real estate agent in California. :smith:

Or, actually, not :smith:. That sounds like a fine fallback.

The companies don't stop there, of course. There's



which is a CBD jelly bean company.

Their incredible idea is that YOU send THEM YOUR CBD, they infuse it into jelly beans, and in a brisk 6-8 weeks you get back your batch.



Polar Popcorn



which is jelly beans with ice cream on them. They were successfully kickstarted, and...



and just before polar popcorn, CANDYMAN RETURNS, also successfully kickstarted, with a link to https://www.candymanreturns.com



It was for coffee-flavored jelly beans, and, of course, as surely as the sun rises....



Look, I need to get this out of the way.

I don't think David Klein is a grifter.

Ok, that's a lie.

I don't think David Klein is on purpose a grifter.

I think he's an excitable guy with zero business sense who hit it big once and can't re-size his dreams.

I think he gets in over his head, and imagines he'll find a way out, and boy, BOY, does that not seem to happen.

I mean, the cash prize from this contest? That ONLY COMES once he's earned more than the cash prize in tickets, and it's set up ON PURPOSE so the contest evaporates if he doesn't.

But, I DO think he's honest, right? So the factory is ours for the taking, right?

Y...es. And no.

See, all that stuff above? It happened in California. And I think eventually, money ran tight, and then it ran dry, and he downsized, and moved to Clearwater, Fl.

He discusses in an interview the "HEALTH DEPARTMENT APPROVED" (which is one of those things you don't want people being proud of) candy factory in "Largo".

But it never was the big-city Ritz and Glamor of Largo. It was in Clearwater.



Can we just take a moment to appreciate this being billed as "Clearwater Florida's largest candy store that is owned and operated by David Klein."?

Because yeah, I bet it IS.

Notice the sort of... creeping desperation in there? "Please please come in so we can keep our doors open"

The facebook Page posted:

In the factory this last week making our novelty candies for children's parties. We also got a big order for trade show samples for a an ambulance company and our Blood Clots™ and Crime Scene Candy® Kits. We sell wholesale so you won't find us anywhere else.

Again, it sounds like a front, doesn't it? Oh sure man BIG BIG orders yeah SUPER steady.



Still, I can't be mad at this imp. Look at him!

And as I said, I don't think he's a BAD guy. If he says we get the factory he owns, we DO.

Look, he included this photo



That looks... I mean, not CAVERNOUS, but clean! It looks like the HVAC works, and we'd have room to do all our stuff!


They're.... certainly still... they... have some candy I guess.



I guess competition is rough in the edible sand candy world?



Uh... I... uh....



I... w.... do you....



Uh oh.



Oh no. The Belcher location was where that photo was taken!

Where... where's the new factory?

Maybe I can just do a google image search for... candyman kitchen?



Ok, so it's a new location, in "Interlachen"!

Oooo! Can I pull it up on Google Street Vi....



......what?



What?



What????


WHAT DO YOU MEAN: IS THIS STILL ON? OF COURSE THIS IS STILL ON, GOONS!

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