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I'm thoroughly enjoying the season so far because everyone's acting at peak performance, editing is close to perfection, and writing is more about the entertainment and pathos than it is about accuracy and realism. The plot is, unfortunately, a toss-up so far because of how little importance anything seems to have and Olyphant only being given 3 solid scenes in the first 3 episodes, ala 1 of those episodes, is a little disappointing so I'm hoping we get more of him. Does anyone have a guess as to what this season's supernatural element is/will be? For some reason Season 3's "she's invisible to sensors" thing makes me think either Olyphant's "deafness" or the dirty cop's OCD is somehow going to be it, though neither is truly out of the norm just yet.
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# ¿ Oct 8, 2020 10:20 |
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# ¿ May 9, 2024 23:58 |
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Milo and POTUS posted:There was a figment in the road at the end of the first episode. I suspect it's amphetamine psychosis Mameluke posted:I like little Mike Milligan, he is a good kid DaveKap fucked around with this message at 10:52 on Oct 9, 2020 |
# ¿ Oct 9, 2020 00:14 |
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Although the specter at the end of the first episode was the hint, this episode certainly makes it clearer what the supernatural force is. The Snowman, they call him, and he's sensed by the Roulette women. I wonder what his deal will be.
DaveKap fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Oct 13, 2020 |
# ¿ Oct 13, 2020 03:39 |
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So... did Orietta make the apple pie with ipecac on purpose or by accident?
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2020 05:49 |
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HppyCmpr posted:On purpose, she stated the girl was going to be her new project and now we know she is a prolific serial killer.
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2020 06:12 |
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Haven't watched the latest but just wanted to say that I'm very glad the "previously on" is just "antecedently" for the season and not being swapped with other thesaurus words the way Legion was. Edit: Okay watched it... sad that there was so little Death Nurse. I'm starting to feel a little bit of a lurch now that we're on ep 5 and this is as far as we've gotten but hopefully with that episode ender things pick up in the second half of the season. DaveKap fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Oct 21, 2020 |
# ¿ Oct 21, 2020 00:38 |
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Connellingus posted:Was Antoon Dumini (the guy who almost shot Satchel but decided against it before being killed by Rabbi Milligan in Episode 6) prominently featured in any previous episodes? I can see him in the cast list for other episodes, but didn't recognize him. I thought his story arc and performance in the most recent episode had strong elements of tragic irony, but might have hit harder if we had seen more of him earlier on. The Noah Hawley Effect is something I discovered happens to every show Noah Hawley worked on after Season 2 of Fargo (though I have zero proof that it wasn't also in effect for S1 and 2 of Fargo) which is that he develops his shows in such a way that they are exponentially better if you watch them in a marathon fashion (1 or more episodes per day) rather than on a weekly basis. I can't explain it but every time I've held off watching his shows (S1/2 of Fargo, S1 of Legion) it's been an absolute blast to watch but every time I watch them as they air (S3 of Fargo, S2/3 of Legion) I'm met with a bit of disappointment over my viewing. S4 so far is probably the best of the weekly viewing of Noah Hawley I've experienced but it has yet to meet the enjoyment of the marathoned viewings I've had. Also, I think if you can't stand Gaetano's cartoonish villainy, I have to assume you didn't enjoy Mike Milligan or Dodd from S2 because they're just as cartoony. DaveKap fucked around with this message at 11:47 on Nov 2, 2020 |
# ¿ Nov 2, 2020 11:45 |
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Do not even ask posted:I'll have to rewatch the entire season when it finishes to confirm my theory is right but the child-swapping "tradition" being a load of bullshit that was just made up so an Irish pedophile could get his jollies off abusing his enemy's kid was not something I saw coming
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# ¿ Nov 14, 2020 22:50 |
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I'm in the camp that this season is better than 3 but worse than 1 and 2 because 1 and 2 were just absolute genius and season 3 had nobody I really cared about other than the drumssassin. That said, I think this season's biggest weakness is something you can trace to early seasons of Game of Thrones. Despite all the cast and characters GoT employed, it managed to have at least 4 very good seasons. The reason for this is because you'd never go longer than 2 episodes without getting some kind of plot movement out of every single character and storyline. It was really decently paced and spread evenly. This season of Fargo either leaves characters alone for too long, practically making us forget names and backstories, or just has no story to tell for many of the characters so when we do get back to them, there's nothing to tell other than "character is hitting head against wall." Part of me wonders if this season would've been better at double the length so that characters could get more fleshing out and have compelling storylines or if the season would've been better at half the length so we could view it more as a mini-series where we never had to know the characters on a personal level but we can get all their plotlines moving at a decent pace. ... or this is just more proof of the Noah Hawley effect and it's a great season to marathon. In any case, it's still entertaining to watch. There are plenty of fantastic scenes that stand on their own, which is the norm for the Fargo series and Noah Hawley. And of course this latest episode keeps up the tradition of having 1 stand-out thematic episode and it was very good. The weakness is merely in the over-arching construction of the show and that's better than just being complete trash. DaveKap fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Nov 17, 2020 |
# ¿ Nov 17, 2020 22:17 |
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Milo and POTUS posted:What's a drumsassin The assassin who always gets his own drums.
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# ¿ Nov 18, 2020 06:11 |
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ShakeZula posted:Well it was better to me than S3 (which I stopped watching after a few episodes), but never got close to 1 or 2. Rock had a couple of decent speeches but ultimately felt miscast. Tack on the fact that they under-utilized Olyphant.
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# ¿ Dec 6, 2020 08:31 |
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I'm really enjoying these first two episodes so far but have 3 stupid problems I'll throw into spoilers since folks are probably just starting up on it: 1: If this is 2019, why is it a problem that the sheriff deleted the photo from the cop's phone? She has a department she reports to... just ask them to SMS the photo again. Seems like an incredibly silly contrivance that she just doesn't have the photo anymore because this dillweed deleted it off her local drive. 2: I really appreciated that whatever Dorothy was spreading across the entrance of the gas station was an un-fired Chekov's Gun (entertainment too often requires everything set up to be activated in some way so seeing a precaution going unneeded is nicely immersive) but... what was it exactly and how was it going to help her at all? I'm just confused about that. I thought it was oil that she'd set on fire or some kind of liquid that would make the guy slip as he entered but without the trap activating, I don't know what the point of it was. 3: 2 episodes in and no pointless paranormal activity. I wonder if Hawley decided to finally do away with it after it being so useless in Season 4? I love that the daughter is just fully supportive of her parents and doesn't let grandma ruin her day. I've wanted more good Jennifer Jason Leigh since Hateful 8 and I'm feasting now. (Twin Peaks just wasn't enough!) DaveKap fucked around with this message at 06:06 on Nov 23, 2023 |
# ¿ Nov 23, 2023 05:52 |
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ruddiger posted:She was pouring motor oil and yeah, it was to make the guy slip but it just didn’t work. The prophetic dream reminded me of Raising Arizona and the lady cop’s husband reminded me of Brad Pitt’s character in Burn After Reading.
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# ¿ Nov 23, 2023 06:48 |
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eighty-four merc posted:Seemed like he might have slipped when she attacked him with the shovel. IDK though. It happened really fast and I couldn’t tell one way or the other when I watched live
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# ¿ Nov 23, 2023 22:41 |
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CBJSprague24 posted:Hard to believe Jennifer Jason Leigh, mother of a teenager in this show, is 61.
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# ¿ Nov 24, 2023 11:43 |
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:My favorite Jennifer Jason Leigh performance was The Hudsucker Proxy, which happens to be my favorite Coen Brothers movie. She does a very similar accent in that movie and in Fargo season 5, the "Transatlantic" accent actors used to do, which sounds "old-timey" to our ears.
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# ¿ Nov 24, 2023 22:14 |
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:Regarding Jennifer Jason Leigh, for god's sake, is Fast Times at Ridgemont High not nearly as well known as I thought it was?
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# ¿ Nov 25, 2023 00:01 |
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:Apparently. I thought it was one of those movies that even younger people today had a decent familiarity with. I'm old, so of course it's a staple.
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# ¿ Nov 25, 2023 00:08 |
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Very glad my note about no supernatural elements is not only wrong but also completely blown out of the drat water. As much as I love the use of Smack My Bitch Up it's a shame that they had to chop it up so drat much. However, it's not often you'll hear it in media and have the entirety of the central vocals presented. Well done.
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# ¿ Nov 29, 2023 10:55 |
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I'm curious what delayed it considering the strikes only just ended. Did they really only have a couple weeks worth of work left to do or did something else delay it? Or was it delayed so the actors could advertise it before airing? Edit: Looked it up, yeah, it was strike-related. The show got shelved when it was supposed to be out in September. I have to assume it got shelved so they could have Hamm go on talk shows for it. DaveKap fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Nov 30, 2023 |
# ¿ Nov 30, 2023 01:30 |
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Turpitude posted:The last episode was entertaining but nothing actually happened. It was entirely build up for whatever is going to go down in the next one.
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# ¿ Dec 2, 2023 04:11 |
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Caesar Saladin posted:If you look closely, you can see the nipples are definitely stick on nipples. CatstropheWaitress posted:Deputy dipshit is put in charge of a raid on Dots home, is possibly showing up there as is possibly Munch. DaveKap fucked around with this message at 11:15 on Dec 5, 2023 |
# ¿ Dec 5, 2023 11:13 |
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Accidental double post.
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# ¿ Dec 5, 2023 11:15 |
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Fun episode. Only real problems are Dot failing to get a grip on that gun and emptying the whole mag into the wall and redneck guy saying "gently caress it" before trying to shoot. It's all forgivable as "heat of the moment" stuff but when I'm watching a TV show these things stick out to me. Loved all the speeches. The debt speech, the king speech, and the waste of skin speech. Fargo writing is top notch tonight!
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# ¿ Dec 6, 2023 12:40 |
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I was kind of hoping that Dot going in to see Wayne meant we'd be left with Mom talking to the cop and sussing out what Dot's been up to, with some movement on their plot. Still, though, the scene we did get really made me feel for Wayne... the dumbass... David Rysdahl as Wayne gives me some kinda vibes... I can't quite place. It might be Mr. Green from Clue or Brad Majors in Rocky Horror. Maybe Rick Moranis's character in Ghostbusters... Anyone else get reminded of someone specific? DaveKap fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Dec 6, 2023 |
# ¿ Dec 6, 2023 22:50 |
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uber_stoat posted:Dot probably doesn't want to merk someone in front of her family. in addition it would complicate her probably doomed attempts to hang on to her Normal life. Turpitude posted:yeah he is very rick moranis from ghost busters or little shop of horrors DaveKap fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Dec 6, 2023 |
# ¿ Dec 6, 2023 23:14 |
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JJL needs to just have her own show where she gets to be a badass 24/7. What an insanely amazingly good scene. You really gotta love any form of entertainment that builds up a horrible person then makes you cheer for them.
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# ¿ Dec 13, 2023 12:41 |
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CHaKKaWaKka posted:This was so good. My heart melted when Dorothy said "I love you too" when she picks up Wayne. It's really hard to know what mental faculties he really has here but... it felt so sweet. "Poop came out!" "Oooo!" DaveKap fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Dec 13, 2023 |
# ¿ Dec 13, 2023 22:19 |
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CatstropheWaitress posted:Looking forward to if the Mother-in-Law changes her tone to Dorthy now that she knows the backstory. She's worried about her son foremost, but knowing who she was fleeing from and why might make her more inclined to help. Game see's game kind of thing. Or not. Yeah, Fargo definitely feels like it's back.
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# ¿ Dec 13, 2023 23:53 |
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Wafflecopper posted:I always skip those things, whether it's for a season or just the next ep
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2023 00:40 |
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limp dick calvin posted:I like the Columbo intros that make it seem he’s gonna get murdered
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2023 23:48 |
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gently caress me what a good episode. I was girding for annoyance after they literally put Trump on the TV (a move that made Mr. Robot turn into a poo poo show) but the way it was used for this show ended up being more "yeah that's about right" instead of "tee hee we put Trump in our show." I've wondered what Wayne's father is like and seeing that he's just a drunk manchild explains exactly how Wayne got the way he did. It took until the "how we're alike" speech to realize why they held off showing him for so long. I was actually clapping when Lorraine said, "come work for me." I'm such a sucker for that poo poo. Finally, the extreme whiplash of laughing at the bank guy getting Lorraine's phone call to her cold, dead stare at the camera cutting to black actually made me emotional. What a finely directed scene. This season is just so good I'm really hoping it wraps up appropriately well. I think my only complaint is the CGI'd bullet hole in the back of the guy's head. It's mis-shaded so it looks bad in the dark. Thing I'll take away from this season and never forget: The way Munch approaches wonder boy. https://i.imgur.com/aVo8uUB.mp4
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2023 02:00 |
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CatstropheWaitress posted:Dot might win, but Fargo has a wonky karma. Generally points towards the heroes, but wobbles. Thinking Bilbo's wife in the first season, Swango's fate in the third. Hope she does. I'm really super curious how golf husband is gonna end. In some way I want Indira to do it but there's no way Fargo would have the primary cop go darkside like that. DaveKap fucked around with this message at 12:25 on Dec 23, 2023 |
# ¿ Dec 23, 2023 12:06 |
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Open Source Idiom posted:I don't see the sympathy people have for Lorraine, I must admit.
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# ¿ Dec 24, 2023 12:22 |
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Between the FBI, Lorraine's security detail, and Roy's militia, I expect something crazy to happen as some combination of those three square off. New episode just hit so I'm spoiler tagging: I leapt out of my chair with excitement when I accidentally mis-identified Linda as being played by Rhea Seehorn. Episode is dark as gently caress, possibly a little too dark for my entertainment tastes, but the sense of dread I got at the very end - as soon as the nurse said they got Dot's husband - was incredibly palpable. The fact it basically took a deus ex machina of sorts to come to this point kinda blows and the quick cut between CGI car crash to practical effect stunt fall felt like it could've been done better. I'm very thankful this and the previous episode were not both cut in half and mixed together for "we're missing the main character for an entire episode" reasons. Both definitely needed their time to breath and it worked out well. One thing that's super confusing me: Dot fell asleep in the diner and then went to find the letter from Linda with Camp Utopia on it. Since she dreamt all of that up, it means we still have no idea what her actual plan was. And now we'll probably never know. That's... annoying. Next episode can't hit soon enough. DaveKap fucked around with this message at 04:05 on Dec 27, 2023 |
# ¿ Dec 27, 2023 04:02 |
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Open Source Idiom posted:random "that's capitalism!" car dealer guy who spent way too long underlining themes. Yeah, we got what was going on guys, you can be less broad.
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# ¿ Dec 28, 2023 12:48 |
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ChesterJT posted:Why wouldn't that still have been her plan? And just to reiterate, I'm not trying to poorly watch TV here. I really enjoy the dreamlike nature of finding a secret message and following it to a retreat and fighting your inner demons with puppets to successfully communicate to the audience your horrible backstory. I'm just idly wondering out loud. Also wanna add that complicating the Gator character like this really is saddening because he's definitely going to bite it before the show is over. Either that or he does Roy in in a moment of pre-death clarity like Darth Vader throwing Palpatine in a pit. DaveKap fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Dec 28, 2023 |
# ¿ Dec 28, 2023 23:44 |
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Open Source Idiom posted:I figured she fell asleep at the wheel and the entire episode was a dream, like one of those dreams where you dream about waking up but you're still asleep. Helped me understand the random truck bit a bit better too, since it's not a random truck ploughing into a bunch of strangers, it's Dot's mind rationalising a head on collision. Or we're just over-analyzing and this is simply the weakpoint of the season that doesn't matter because it's just being used as a transition.
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# ¿ Dec 29, 2023 10:56 |
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Yeah it feels way more Fargo-y that Linda's dead and Dot's dreamland was pure wish fulfilment because nobody's ever had her back. Which is gonna make it all the sweeter/sourer when she does/n't discover Lorraine has her back.
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# ¿ Dec 31, 2023 23:44 |
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# ¿ May 9, 2024 23:58 |
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Hughmoris posted:I've been avoiding the thread for fear of spoilers but how is this new season? Comparable to seasons 1 and 2?
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# ¿ Jan 3, 2024 02:38 |