BYOBHistory: Turner Classic Threads VI - BYOB Reggae meltdown

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Diorama: i remember when all this was fields

"The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there."

BYOB today is a place to chill. A place of inclusivity, friendship, and open to all.

This has not always been the case; in the early days, the white-hot promordial soup that erupted as FYAD: Casual Encounters and then coalesced within weeks into BYOB was filled with cliques, crews, and an internal civil war.

The forum was divided between those who thought BYOB should be a place to 'chillax' and those who felt it should be a place to be funny; the former deemed the latter to be 'unbyob'.

A very VERY annoying thing people used to say was 'fyad is for being funny, byob is for having fun'

Anyway, I feel a right tit typing this up but history is important, and we should be careful not to judge the past through the gaze of the present.

For some background, forums user Midget Porn! had written a 'BYOB Reggae'; this was well received by Glomp Crew et al., but felt to be embarrassingly unironic by others; if 'cringe' had been an adjective then, it would have been used.

Things came to a head when forums poster Bick decided that he had had enough:

Bick, who has been lost, was famous for being a bit of a hottie:

and for his Bic pen mascot avatars, which eventually became an emote: :bick:

In the thread he expressed his opinion of the reggae:
(through the thread, look at the timestamps. MARVEL at the speed of the olden days)

Not something you would see these days, but the world was a different place.

Midget Porn! herself soon turned up to give her opinion:

Then the only mod online turned up, Occupy Japan.
I think he would be an IK in current yobterminology

soon other posters turned up to give their opinion on the song

vinyld00d felt that the identity of the writer would affect his feelings, and Friggle turned up as the first defender

Fidel Castronaut was ambivalent, and Occupy Japan doubled down, comparing MP! to two other terrible legends of BYOB

At this point MP! made the dangerous about turn of calling the whole thing a joke

Occupy Japan, at this point far too involved in the situation for his modly duties, fired back

then the fakeposting began

Friggle, still in defence mode, is upset that effort always gets shot down

others can't believe what he is saying

ii oh el's hot take on moderating styles

at this point the sharks had smelled blood, and it became an all-out trollfest

Bick was orgasmic at this revelation from OJ, and MP! made the dangerous mistake of calling his bluff

Friggle with searching questions of 'yobdentity

Friggle with a theory for the hate, and badonkagonk with hate for all

a rookie mistake here; never admit anything

Here Midget Porn! wishes for the death of Occupy Japan

Friggle wishes for law and order from the bong man:

Anyway, the yob was once a violent place. Occupy Japan was eventually de-modded, drifted away from BYOB, and some years later Midget Porn! got her wish as he passed away and went to the great goldmine in the sky.

I don't know why I posted this, maybe it is all common knowledge. Just don't want it to 'tears in ran' itself.

I honestly don't know if the BYOB reggae is still part of the lore, but if you haven't heard it you can do so here; https://www.indiesound.com/track/89356

If you want to read the original thread, it can be found here:
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2587610&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1

edit: I almost deleted this after writing it because I loving hate people writing internet history sincerely, especially goons, but it's so odd that I can look back on conversations I watched in real time when I was high school age, and see them perfectly preserved

# ? Oct 11, 2020 14:20

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# ? Oct 11, 2020 14:36

Diorama: i remember when all this was fields

bog pixie posted:

RZNV

so the legends have survived...

# ? Oct 11, 2020 14:36

nut

p sure most if not all of byob loves byob reggae now, p sure i'm also cringe tho

# ? Oct 11, 2020 15:00

Chewbecca: Just chillin' : )

All the people in the op would have hated me and my spoons and my "ITT" threads v :shobon:

v

Good thing idc though :evilbuddy:

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# ? Oct 11, 2020 15:02

Luvcow: One day nearer spring

that was a ride worthy of ken burns

:stare:

# ? Oct 11, 2020 15:37

Jinh

i heard that the OG byob was super insular, but this sheds light on a lot of the culture back then. when i started posting, all i knew was it was outwardly a welcoming chill place but once you actually got into threads it was basically fyad (but sometimes not?). then a lot of stuff happened, and it was annihilated and resurrected repeatedly for years. forums cancer appeared, then byob and other fyad-lites were deleted for a long time. When this iteration of BYOB was launched to a lot of fanfare, a lot of the guidelines in the rules thread here were created so that that kind of posting clique stuff doesn't happen again.

idk if its possible to let MP! know but byob reggae is still played constantly lol. i usually see this version linked:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms_S3sd5JzU

^{thanks so much cda <3}

# ? Oct 11, 2020 17:39

Diorama: i remember when all this was fields

thanks, i'm glad if even one or two people take something from this

early byob could be insular and cliquey, but these groups mostly kept to each others' threads, so that if you just wanted to glomp you could, and if you mostly wanted to practice cutting wit, you could do that two, but thr groups did collide a lot. at the very beginning nobody knew what they were supposed to be doing so you really could just jump in, but after a year or so when a subculture had developed it could be intimidating at first; you didn't know anyone and they didn't know you, and while a lot of people would be welcoming not everyone would

in the goldmine you can see threads a day or so apart that have almost no mutual posters

edit: i really hate seeing that I've typed this. what a goon.
anyway, this is all subjective, and im sure a contemporary could come in and demolish my take on events

# ? Oct 11, 2020 18:07

Jinh

Diorama posted:

in the goldmine you can see threads a day or so apart that have almost no mutual posters

edit: i really hate seeing that I've typed this. what a goon.

yeah that's wild! hell, it bugs me that this forum recently got a thread called "the outgroup thread" bc the yob really discourages that kinda thing now! the OP of that thread realized they were being silly though.

and many of the most popular threads on the forums (and much of my bookmarks) are just reminiscing on old forums stuff, you're among friends here v :shobon:

^{thanks so much cda <3}

# ? Oct 11, 2020 18:25

Chewbecca: Just chillin' : )

I feel like I was around for something of this cos those names are vaguely familiar, but I have zero recollection of any of it so idk

# ? Oct 11, 2020 21:40

Diorama: i remember when all this was fields

Chewbecca posted:

I feel like I was around for something of this cos those names are vaguely familiar, but I have zero recollection of any of it so idk

You were definitely around then Chewbecca, I've been digging in the goldmines and I've seen you in threads older than that!

And Jinh, the whole cliques think wasn't all bad, and you have to see it in the context of the time.

As you know, back then people weren't generally on facebook(I wasn't) and you parents definitely weren't, back then the idea of being your real self with your real name online was less common, and it seemed more normal to speak to total internet strangers, in a way.

I ended up chatting with a lot of byobers on AIM, and if you were current AIM buddies with someone, you would tend to post in their thread when you saw one, because you knew that guy! I had a lot of fun talking to random American and Australian yobbers, South African and all kinds of Europeans too.

Once a few of us decided to become the 'BYOBeatles', this was my avatar from that time:

Heh, look at him go!

Anyway, bad stuff came with cliques but it was a lot of fun posting in little teams of friends sometimes.

~you take the good with the bad
yin and yang
'yob and 'yad~

# ? Oct 11, 2020 22:38

Luvcow: One day nearer spring

Diorama posted:

You were definitely around then Chewbecca, I've been digging in the goldmines and I've seen you in threads older than that!

And Jinh, the whole cliques think wasn't all bad, and you have to see it in the context of the time.

As you know, back then people weren't generally on facebook(I wasn't) and you parents definitely weren't, back then the idea of being your real self with your real name online was less common, and it seemed more normal to speak to total internet strangers, in a way.

I ended up chatting with a lot of byobers on AIM, and if you were current AIM buddies with someone, you would tend to post in their thread when you saw one, because you knew that guy! I had a lot of fun talking to random American and Australian yobbers, South African and all kinds of Europeans too.

Once a few of us decided to become the 'BYOBeatles', this was my avatar from that time:

Heh, look at him go!

Anyway, bad stuff came with cliques but it was a lot of fun posting in little teams of friends sometimes.

~you take the good with the bad
yin and yang
'yob and 'yad~

that's a really nice beatles av

# ? Oct 11, 2020 22:45

Diorama: i remember when all this was fields

I can't remember who made them, but there was also a John, a Paul and a Ringo!

# ? Oct 11, 2020 22:54

Chewbecca: Just chillin' : )

Yeah I know I'm old school, but I legit don't remember any of that particular drama!

Remember bick vaguely, and his avvie

# ? Oct 12, 2020 00:30

Heather Papps: hello friend

this was fascinating cause i wasn't posting in byob yet at the time of the song, so it's always been an artifact of byoblore to me

i am still too cowardly to go and try and find my old posts especially because the tail end of them were made during a mental health bipolar mania emergence crisis, and the ones before that i was usually very extremely stoned late at night and or drinking in university so they are likely really unfunny but WHO KNOWS

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# ? Oct 12, 2020 01:54

Chewbecca: Just chillin' : )

Op if you can link me old threads I'm in if ya got em, feel like taking a trip down memory lane (and also I must be dumb cos search yields nothing)

# ? Oct 12, 2020 02:44

Diorama: i remember when all this was fields

here's one chewbs!

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2027818&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=5#post313969736

# ? Oct 12, 2020 06:52

Chewbecca: Just chillin' : )

Man reading that I vaguely remembered it holy moly :psyduck:

# ? Oct 12, 2020 07:03

owlhawk911: come chill with me, in byob

Diorama posted:

~you take the good with the bad
yin and yang
'yob and 'yad~

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# ? Oct 12, 2020 07:22

owlhawk911: come chill with me, in byob

nice thread op. according to the chat thread op we're still on v8.2, but that is clearly not the case

every iteration has been great in its own way and it's neat to see what sticks and what doesn't

i fuckin love the byob reggae

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# ? Oct 12, 2020 07:24

Gross Dude: Gross Dude

Diorama posted:

You were definitely around then Chewbecca, I've been digging in the goldmines and I've seen you in threads older than that!

And Jinh, the whole cliques think wasn't all bad, and you have to see it in the context of the time.

As you know, back then people weren't generally on facebook(I wasn't) and you parents definitely weren't, back then the idea of being your real self with your real name online was less common, and it seemed more normal to speak to total internet strangers, in a way.

I ended up chatting with a lot of byobers on AIM, and if you were current AIM buddies with someone, you would tend to post in their thread when you saw one, because you knew that guy! I had a lot of fun talking to random American and Australian yobbers, South African and all kinds of Europeans too.

Once a few of us decided to become the 'BYOBeatles', this was my avatar from that time:

Heh, look at him go!

Anyway, bad stuff came with cliques but it was a lot of fun posting in little teams of friends sometimes.

~you take the good with the bad
yin and yang
'yob and 'yad~

That's one thing I do miss about the old BYOB, I would play scrabble and AIM with so many people back then. I had a lot of free time and a job where I didn't do anything, so I spent a lot of it on BYOB.

# ? Oct 12, 2020 08:32

Gross Dude: Gross Dude

Gross Dude posted:

That's one thing I do miss about the old BYOB, I would play scrabble and AIM with so many people back then. I had a lot of free time and a job where I didn't do anything, so I spent a lot of it on BYOB.

Oh also the speed, old BYOB was so incredibly fast. Every time you refreshed there were new posts.

# ? Oct 12, 2020 08:35

Gross Dude: Gross Dude

Oh and also, in case the references to Shiv don't mame sense to anyone, there used to be a mod of BYOB named shivadas whose avatar was a man with an eye for a head. He sold bongs and got banned when people bought bongs from in SA Mart, but never received them.

# ? Oct 12, 2020 08:38

Diorama: i remember when all this was fields

Gross Dude posted:

Oh and also, in case the references to Shiv don't mame sense to anyone, there used to be a mod of BYOB named shivadas whose avatar was a man with an eye for a head. He sold bongs and got banned when people bought bongs from in SA Mart, but never received them.

if you have any idea where to find the gif of Stoatbox, Shivadas and Buddy dancing, let me know

# ? Oct 12, 2020 09:01

Chewbecca: Just chillin' : )

Gross Dude posted:

That's one thing I do miss about the old BYOB, I would play scrabble and AIM with so many people back then. I had a lot of free time and a job where I didn't do anything, so I spent a lot of it on BYOB.

I remember playing online poker a lot with my goon pals, wish I could remember the name of the website!

# ? Oct 12, 2020 09:08

Evil Bob: 've lived a thousand times. I found out what it means to be GBS.

My favorite part about this thread is that I am featured in it :smugbert:

# ? Oct 12, 2020 16:21

Evil Bob: 've lived a thousand times. I found out what it means to be GBS.

That thread is a trip, someone get call bick at 2AM and tell him that lowtax has sold the forums and that its "BEE WAIIIII OHHHHH BEEEEE TIEEEEMMMMM"

# ? Oct 12, 2020 16:31

google THIS

I remember that thread because there was a concurrent machine learning thread. I experimented with pasting in a bunch of posts from page 1 threads and the bot ended up unable to complete a sentence without saying HURF DAY DURF

# ? Oct 12, 2020 16:41

owlhawk911: come chill with me, in byob

google THIS posted:

I remember that thread because there was a concurrent machine learning thread. I experimented with pasting in a bunch of posts from page 1 threads and the bot ended up unable to complete a sentence without saying HURF DAY DURF

hell, same

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# ? Oct 12, 2020 18:15

Bacon Taco: Now with extra narwhal meat!
HAIKOOLIGAN

I was not even a visitor to BYOB in those days, so that was some fascinating history.

It was cool to see Fragmaster handing out some probes!

# ? Oct 12, 2020 18:35

google THIS

owlhawk911 posted:

hell, same

# ? Oct 12, 2020 18:39

vanisher

I shudder to think what old school byob would do with my posts

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# ? Oct 12, 2020 19:04

alnilam

the byob reggae is extremely widely loved and highly regarded now i can't believe it was so controversial at the time damb

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# ? Oct 14, 2020 21:54

ChubbyChecker

Diorama posted:

mamma mia!

# ? Oct 14, 2020 22:15

blaise rascal: "Duke, Duke, Duke, Duke of Pearl...."

Interesting, thanks for sharing. I wish people had been nicer to midget porn. I wrote extensively about the byob reggae several years ago, trying to deconstruct it musically, so it's definitely something that has captured my imagination.

ty vanisher, ty khanstant

# ? Oct 15, 2020 01:42

owlhawk911: come chill with me, in byob

we should do covers

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# ? Oct 15, 2020 02:30

Escape From Noise

Gross Dude posted:

Oh and also, in case the references to Shiv don't mame sense to anyone, there used to be a mod of BYOB named shivadas whose avatar was a man with an eye for a head. He sold bongs and got banned when people bought bongs from in SA Mart, but never received them.

That eyeball head guy is a member of the experimental band The Residents! :eng101:

Also I was briefly in old BYOB during my winter break in Sapporo until I got told to GTFO

# ? Oct 15, 2020 06:39

sb hermit

Thanks for the history lesson, OP. Sounds like crazy times and I think I spent most of that time (in a former life) in YOSPOS and GBS among other places

# ? Oct 15, 2020 08:23

Chewbecca: Just chillin' : )

Please nobody remember anything I do or say, tia

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if you are linked to byob reggae you have to listen to the entire thing no exceptions

# ? Oct 15, 2020 18:45

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