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Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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Prefixes: E, D, C, F, G, A, B
Research: C, D, B, A
Socialist Aid Program: A, B, C
I-24, Repeal the No First Strike Doctrine: No
A-25, Service Medals: Yes
K-26, Adoption of a Revolutionary Rank Structure: Yes
F-27, Drunken Industrial Bear: No
F-28, Research Optimization Cleanup: Yes
F-29, A Ten-Year Service Medal: No
L-30, Low-Gravity Infrastructure: No
I-31, Five-Year Plans: Yes
H-32, The Mars Program: Yes
N-33, the TNE Reuse, Reduce, and Recycling Act: Yes
N-34, the Public Broadcasting Service: Yes
S-35, FESTER: No
A-36, Space Autonomy Model: Yes
A-37, A Common Language for Space: Yes

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Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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True, more specialists means more research means more quality of life improvements for humanity.

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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All I can think of when someone mentions Victorian era space scifi is that one Ultima spinoff on Mars that was lped ages ago

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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Asterite34 posted:

True, Earth's deposits are more accessible and currently more than meet our demand. However, Luna provides a test-bed for research into off-world mining techniques, with a fairly short supply chain of necessary supplies and quick radio access and travel time for experts in the field. Plus I'm sure the Lunar Socialist Republic would appreciate the bootstrapping of the local economy.

Helping jumpstart their resource extraction and local utilization of their corbomite reserves while shipping additional infrastructure is certainly worth bringing up at the next conference, yeah. Hopefully we get as lucky with the surveying of Mars and Venus.

Also I've tried to give Aurora4x a try like 3 times now thanks to this thread and every time I get into a new game and immediately get lost, it's so user anti-friendly. :negative:

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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Send a team down to investigate in the lander. Hopefully we were smart enough to send some AKs along, just in case.

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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Asterite34 posted:

Low orbit survey to get a better idea as to the disposition of the site, and if it appears safe/dead, send down the lander to investigate. Be careful though, this might be the most significant find since the Roswell Object, and I'm not sure we sent any trained archaeologists on this mission. We CANNOT risk contaminating or damaging the site just so we can take touristy photo ops.

This is a good point. If our team on board the Karzelek has doubts of their ability to properly investigate we should hold back on sending them down and instead retask one of our other ships. Or if that's not viable, design a smaller shorter duration craft specifically for investigating ruins we discover, staffed with proper teams.

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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Sanev.Khan posted:

The best reason of course being that then we get to name one of our martian colonies or cities "New New England".

Please, Neo New York

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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I agree with the theory that if Gladio initiates a nuclear attack it's likely to not be ICBM in nature. Additional FESTER elements to actually decode and interpret Gladio communications would likely be wise to get operational before tipping them to the fact they're not hiding anymore.

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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Servetus posted:

I would like to put forward my own plan.

I propose that we make the capability to decrypt the GLADIO network a research priority; and until we achieve that capability and have it deployed in the field we play our cards close to the vest. We should keep our disruptions of their network minimal to disguise our surveillance until we have broken their codes and identified the North sea contact. Then we can determine the best way to launch a decisive strike.


As an addendum; while this is not part of the main proposal I would ask that comrades well-versed in military design weigh in on the design of craft or ground batteries with point defense capable of stopping a pre-TNE missile attack. Should the worse come to pass and GLADIO possesses a submarine still capable of launching a missile attack, we must be ready to defend the people.

Seconded this proposal. Letting GLADIO know we are unwrapping their web bit by not prior to being positioned for a killing blow would be foolish. And, while I am remiss to support military buildup, dedicated anti-bombardment defenses are well within acceptable bounds.

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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Happerry posted:

Out of sadness of the lack of medals and ribbons, I made some up by doodling around in the ribbon maker until I had some that I thought looked good.


Here's the Honorable Mention Ribbon, which is... well, for whenever a character does something cool enough that we think they should get a medal out of it, but it's not so cool we want to give them the Ultima Honorifica or something like that. Something like 10 or 20 points worth of promotion-ness probably?


Next up is the Outstanding Service Ribbon, which is like the Honorable Mention Ribbon but, you know, twice as good. For when people do really nice things, like that research breakthrough a while back that was mentioned would have probably got a medal if we'd made any by then. Incidentally, we might want to give that guy this one for that.


There's also this Combat Honor Ribbon for, well, people who see combat. Not one ribbon per combat mind you, just one ribbon if you've seen combat at all. So people know who's been shot at and who hasn't.


Following after the Combat Honor Ribbon is this Survival Ribbon. The way to get it? Survive getting your ship shot out from underneath you. Or survive some non-combat ship destroying accident without the board of review deciding it's your fault the ship went kaboom. Either way, if someone has it they've probably spent time in a lifepod. If they have a lot of them, well...


And then we have this Outstanding Combat Ribbon for people who go above and beyond merely fighting and achieve victory despite the odds. If you keep being a protagonist and continue winning despite things being stacked against you, you can keep getting more of these.


Space is dark and cold and there are few things as important as friends out in the void. The Space Rescue Ribbon is for those whom make space a bit less dark and cold by rescuing lifepods despite personal hardship or danger.


The Voyager Ribbon is a simple ribbon designed to recognize one sole fact. The fact that anyone with this ribbon was one of the first people in to a new and unexplored star system. (IE, the Discover New Star System condition)


Lastly, the New World Ribbon is for recognizing those who have found a new inhabitable world.

Seconded, these are really nice

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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SK-38, Expand Interkosmos Academy Yes
SK-39, Repeal Five-Year Plans Yes
HC-40, Integrate North America Yes
S-41, Research and Deploy Spying Technology Yes
A-42, Surveil the Mars Ruins Yes
JR-43, The Extraplanetary Focus Discovery Act Yes
I-44, Administrative Overhaul No
I-45, Diplomatic Overtures Yes
P-46, Venera Initiative 2.0 No
NM-47, the Trans-Newtonian Global Network Project Yes
F-48, Organizational Capacity Yes
F-49, Long-Term Research Efficiency Yes
P-50, X-COM Yes
Z-51, IRPA Yes
I-52, Armed Spacecraft Development No
W-53, Lunplan Expansion Yes
W-54, Medals Yes
W-55, Rename the Comintern No
H-56, More Medals Yes

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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Foxfire_ posted:

At least as fast as the target is the bare minimum (20% of boarding troops will survive the attempt to cross). You need 5X speed to get everybody across, which practically means shooting out the engines or having an engine tech advantage+shuttles.

Can Microwave tech shoot out engines? Or is it just for sensors and other sorts of disruptions?

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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NewMars posted:

I've an idea for one.



The circle in the centre is the earth, united under socialism and beneath it the flag of the moon. The wreath can be read as a laurel or as grain. A laurel, representing the triumph of socialism and humanity over the old order and it's near-destruction, or a wreath of grain, representing the plenty that the comintern brings. There's also space to add the emblems of future colonies around the earth.

I quite like this one! Alternatively provide a standardized template with designated space for the colonies/polity/etc in question to put their own signifier element, reinforcing that while not all Comintern member states are the same they are all part of the Comintern together.

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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zanni posted:

:stare:

Well, this is either nothing or completely terrifying!

Just a weather balloon

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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Aye. Leaping before we look and stretching ourselves too thin invites disasters unseen.

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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I told you it was just a weather balloon :colbert:

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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Human Zoo :tinfoil:

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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Antilles posted:

Mister Bates, what's the estimated ETA for when we can ferry over a fully equipped X-COM team (that is, time until all relevant research is completed, all necessary training/construction is done, and transit/deployment time to Mars)? If we set it to absolute priority #1, how much time can we shave off that?

Sending in generic troops seems rash to me right now, unless it's ages until we can send a proper team their way. I'd be much more positive right now to attempting contact via radio signals.

Pacho posted:

If there's people in these base, either human or alien, they must be greeted with hails and handshakes, not bullets. I understand the need for protecting our research team and welcome comitee with a crack team of xcom operatives, but let's not send and army unless they start shooting first

:hmmyes: This is a situation to exercise caution, certainly. There may be living aliens there and this is the closest thing they have to being able to communicate with us, for whatever reason. However,

Mister Bates posted:

Or you could do it with a team equipped with the best gear and training you have right now in a couple weeks.

This is the most viable, IMO. Have the team respond in kind and see what happens while spooling up an emergency mission.

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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Pacho posted:

Either time jump or they were in some sort of stasis for decades until the stasis system broke down (around the Roswell incident?). I'd suggest mentioning that earth has changed since the cyclops was lost (don't mention how many years), that we have spacefaring tech and are here under our own volition for exploration purposes and that we need a status update on them and potential hostiles if we need to do a rescue mission

If it really is a person then yes, I'm guessing they were held in some sort of suspension that failed recently enough that they've been able to stay alive since then. Either way, this has turned from an archeology mission into a humanitarian mission exceedingly fast, and we need to confirm how many folks are down there and find a way to get them to safety ASAP. :supaburn:

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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Time to fasttrack a rescue mission and xcom's science investigation teams. :supaburn:

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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zanni posted:

I'd like to propose the Face of Mars Act.

I second this proposal. While there are definite concerns about potential military conflict in the coming years, right now we have thousands of people who will find themselves out of place and out of time. This is an unprecedented humanitarian disaster and we need immediate action to secure and help every single person who's found themselves taken to the facility on Mars.

Crazycryodude posted:

As such, I propose that the COMINTERN establish a permanent outpost within easy travel distance of the Face, initially geared towards humanitarian relief and debriefing for the currently awake prisoners, and a long-term mission of studying the ruins and waking/debriefing the prisoners that remain on ice.

I second this as well, and believe implementing the two proposals as a single initiative together would be highly complimentary.

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Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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idhrendur posted:

The People's Republic of California commends our comrades focusing on the humanitarian issue. Defense may be a concern soon, but is not required at the emergency session.

While in full support of the Face of Mars Act and the creation of Camp Helium, I must emphasize the importance of providing food as quickly as possible. They can make their current food sources stretch, but they are likely nutritionally deficient and unpleasant to eat. By providing a supply of fresh food we will not just better ensure their health while we wait on permanent solutions, but ensure they feel receptive to us which will aid in all further work.

Also, that joke about eventually needing to crack sleeping tubes is disquieting and makes me worry about just what their alternative food source might be.

A will to survive enables many unpleasantries, but yes let’s not let it reach that stage.

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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The Awake: C
The Asleep: D
The Site: C
The Discord: N

Also sorry to hear about you catching Corona, hopefully it doesn't batter you too bad :(

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Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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Yeah, I’m glad to hear he’s ok, I was worried. Take the time you need chief. :ohdear:

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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Just that joke about going 'Wow you guys were in World War One!' and they give you the old :concerned:

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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atelier morgan posted:

gently caress me is that nose art and kill tallies

Perhaps some common ground CAN be found among the stars :v:

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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Asterite34 posted:

Like they said, they can be our subordinates, or our Equals.

Indeed. They're offering the Comintern hot air in exchange for giving them special treatment. If they do not want to be an equal partner member state, then they can remain non members with all the unfortunate elements that includes.

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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We could just turn down their deal and let them struggle on their own.

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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BwenGun posted:

Maybe offer the Papacy a TNE, combat capable, Popemobile if they're willing to send one of their more experienced of Battle clerics to carry out the exorcisms?

BATTLE BROTHERS

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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Well, at least we won’t have to worry about fuel anytime soon!

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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Is it possible it’s been TNE modified in some way? If so then we do need to bear that in mind. Alternatively, how deep into water can an orbital Excalibur installation strike effectively? :getin:

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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atelier morgan posted:

Alternatively if we can keep a sensor on station for long enough we should catch them being resupplied eventually, they need to get food from somewhere.

Would be nice to know who’s trying to gently caress us, yes.

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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It does make me wonder how much more of the oceans are now open for potential exploitation with TNE supported technologies, but it’s of questionable value either way beyond terrestrial biology or potential alien based.

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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Yeah, potential ultra-efficient desalinization could do a lot for arid areas in terms of potable water, something to maybe look into researching once we don't have the threat of a nuclear strike on the only recovered survivors of alien abductions. :hmmyes:

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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Crazycryodude posted:

Yeah pretty sure the gunshots were some part of the bridge crew deciding they weren't interested in letting the captain get them all killed, if the captain was feeling suicidal all he had to do was order a torpedo tube opened and try to take one of ours with him. If he got shot it was by someone else not himself.

Yeah, given it was several pops and not just one, some other bridge officer likely decided better to potentially get minimum security prison for turning rogue rather than a potential slow death in a collapsing sub

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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Josef bugman posted:

So the queen isn't there. Maybe she made off with the warheads?

Alongside that I do find it interesting how much the various different Gladio operations seem to be just barely stitched together things held up by the desperate and the dying.

Not too dissimilar from the irl concept of Gladio to be fair.

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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:suspense: Oh poo poo

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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MotherFUCKERS

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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Rubix Squid posted:

Do we really have a choice?

That depends on who we’re negotiating with and their reactions. I’m curious to see if the GiE in Japan have any connections directly though to this. Very curious.

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Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

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Maybe there were rogue elements in the Japanese government who were willing to help them? Either way, I'm on board with forming a proper intelligence agency (with severe transparency restrictions at any rate) and dedicated platforms in orbit around Earth and the Moon for data gathering. Like was said, one missed step in the chain and we could have had multiple nuclear strikes in major cities, or even on Lunar soil. That's not something we can risk happening again.

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