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e-dt
Sep 16, 2019

The delegation from the Revolutionary Union of Polynesia proposes the Continuous Struggle but Not Too Much, You Know What I Mean? Act:

Whereas the world is entering a new era of liberation, the era of socialism, the Trans-Newtonian era;
Whereas capitalist elements, though largely defeated, continue to be a thorn in our side;
Whereas it is necessary to struggle against these elements in order to continue to be authentically socialist;
Whereas it is also obvious that we have just had a massive loving nuclear war and don't really want to get into another one right now or preferably ever;
Whereas from previous experience it is clear that capitalist elements not only operate externally to the Comintern but also internally;
Whereas it is also clear that internal capitalist elements can be divided itself into two groups, elements external to the Comintern government but operating inside Comintern territory and elements internal to the Comintern government;
Whereas it is recognised that there's probably a lot more categorisation we could do but we have to get on with it sometime -

The RUP proposes:

To deal with external capitalist states peacefully yet forcefully, pressuring countries to if not join the Comintern yet at least begin moving towards socialism with the tools at our disposal, including as "carrots" scientific research sharing and foreign aid, and including as "sticks" condemnations, sanctions, embargo, and if needed the threat of violence. (Although if it gets that far we should probably give them a little time to breathe and come back later.)
To deal with potential capitalist or otherwise oppressive alien nations in full solidarity with the oppressed masses, although not getting in over our heads in any terrible wars or anything just yet.
To deal with potential socialist alien nations primarily as friends, though keeping an eye out for revisionism as did Lenin.
To reaffirm the current activities struggling against fascist and capitalist elements, primarily Gladio but also including other groups, in Comintern territory.
To keep in check internal revisionism by renewing proletarian democracy and ensuring that all Comintern governments are solidly connected to, and governing solely for, the proletariat of their country.
And to just be chill about things generally while not just letting bullshit fly.

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Sanev.Khan
Mar 4, 2019

zanni posted:

-Paying monetary reparations to indigenous peoples affected by colonialism, such as the First Nations of North America, Aboriginal peoples of Australia, and other native groups that have had their culture and wellbeing endangered by cultural assimilation, disenfranchisement, and economic exploitation.
-Offering full assistance via the Socialist Aid program to said affected communities.
Aren't they already receiving Socialist Aid? I thought we had turned that worldwide already rather than just for Comintern members, if not yet, we should offer it to everyone rather than only Comintern and indigenous people.
Who would pay the reparations?

NewMars
Mar 10, 2013
As many members of the United Australasian Worker's Republics possess indigenous members, with some such as the Mianjin Commune being dominated by them (and out of game, me being indigenous Australian myself), we feel that the issue of reparations is one that can't be easily solved by a top-down approach. The IRPA tentatively has our support, in these matters.

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!

idhrendur posted:

ooc: My support for decolonization is envisioning a bit less, I suppose. I'd like to imagine a world where some BS from my hometown is impossible (a Chumash burial ground got mostly bulldozed for a Wal-Mart, apart from 1.5 acres preserved after much negotiation. 1.5 acres completely surrounded by the parking lot, which is certainly not what I'd want for the graves of my ancestors). Well, that crossed with the recent efforts of real-life California to assist in the return of sacred sites to tribes. Full autonomy is perhaps extreme, but the kind of fight we're having now is half the fun of a you play!

OOC: Yeah, I'd say the "no-duh" parts would be that indigenous groups would have 100%, no hidden clauses, control over any surviving cultural sites. But in general there should be a respect for cultural sites over the needs of capitalism.

punched my v-card at camp
Sep 4, 2008

Broken and smokin' where the infrared deer plunge in the digital snake

PurpleXVI posted:

OOC: Yeah, I'd say the "no-duh" parts would be that indigenous groups would have 100%, no hidden clauses, control over any surviving cultural sites. But in general there should be a respect for cultural sites over the needs of capitalism.

OOC: the other exciting but tricky thing in the American context is that TNEs/space socialism largely make the sort of extractive settlement that displaced First Peoples unnecessary. I wonder, if given time and a participatory framework (so it doesn’t feel forced) if much of the worlds rural regions would depopulate and only those with strong cultural ties to the land would remain.

Mycroft Holmes
Mar 26, 2010

by Azathoth

Pacho posted:

In case it's needed, the NOMAD Collective seconds this proposal

The Protectorate of the Outer Banks thirds the new Indigenous proposal.

Fivemarks
Feb 21, 2015
But what of Involuntary settlers? The African Diaspora in the Americans didn't ask to be brought here, and didn't ask to be tools in the colonization and genocide of native peoples... but, well, here we are. We can't simply be shipped back to Africa.

zanni
Apr 28, 2018

Fivemarks posted:

But what of Involuntary settlers? The African Diaspora in the Americans didn't ask to be brought here, and didn't ask to be tools in the colonization and genocide of native peoples... but, well, here we are. We can't simply be shipped back to Africa.

Where in my proposal was there any mention of forced resettlement to another continent?? Or forced resettlement of any sort??

Comrade, I believe you have an incredibly flawed understanding of what decolonialization means and entails.. please examine the discussion of the last few days to get a better idea.

Rhjamiz
Oct 28, 2007

zanni posted:

Where in my proposal was there any mention of forced resettlement to another continent?? Or forced resettlement of any sort??

Comrade, I believe you have an incredibly flawed understanding of what decolonialization means and entails.. please examine the discussion of the last few days to get a better idea.

"Returning lands to the native nations" certainly suggests that connotation, particularly in regard to the Americas. Let's not pretend this conclusion is somehow unreasonable given the rather sweeping proposals being set forth.

welfarestateofmind
Apr 11, 2020



"You are a violent and irrepressible miracle. The vacuum of cosmos and the stars burning in it are afraid of you. Given enough time you would wipe us all out and replace us with nothing -- just by accident."

Rhjamiz posted:

"Returning lands to the native nations" certainly suggests that connotation, particularly in regard to the Americas. Let's not pretend this conclusion is somehow unreasonable given the rather sweeping proposals being set forth.

The new proposal does not include that original language (necessarily, it's more conditional, as we understand it). At least for myself, it's to my satisfaction, and I hope at least this discussion was productive, it's good to be reminded that democracy is more than just voting.

zanni
Apr 28, 2018

Rhjamiz posted:

"Returning lands to the native nations" certainly suggests that connotation, particularly in regard to the Americas. Let's not pretend this conclusion is somehow unreasonable given the rather sweeping proposals being set forth.

As I have already clarified once, it is a question of land ownership, not who inhabits it.

'Returning lands' means giving indigenous peoples back their seat at the table for how land is used and why. It means that they get to choose how to use the natural resources of their lands, approval or denial of construction projects.. it means ending the frankly disgusting history of settlers just doing whatever they want and using state violence to force through resource exploitation and desecration to fit their own convenience.

No one is expecting or suggesting that 'returning land' means that the native peoples will kick out the however many tens of thousands of people that live in cities and settlements on traditional indigenous territories so they can replace them. And frankly, I'm getting tired of having to repeat this multiple times because people read the words 'returning land' and childishly assume that means that indigenous peoples want to forcibly resettle everyone who isn't themselves.

This conclusion is a completely unreasonable conclusion to arrive to. It is childish and has an absolute minimum of thought behind it. And, again, I have already clarified this in previous debate on the previous bill.

Please be sure to be up to date in the discussion before laying accusations that I am advocating for tearing countless numbers of people from their homes and lives and shoving them elsewhere. I lived most of my life in a refugee camp. I know that pain well and I wouldn't push to hurt others with it.

Fivemarks
Feb 21, 2015
The peoples of the African Diaspora should not simply be swapped around to remain as an oppressed underclass. We deserve our own ethnic homeland where we can make laws and govern ourselves.

Pacho
Jun 9, 2010
It seems some of my comrades are not familiar with processes of decolonization. Decolonization is, above all, not "flipping the omelette" and having the former privilege groups become a new underclass, it's about open dialogue between the people who live and work in a community, city or region about how they see themselves, how they see their past and their future. This dialogue involves the colonized native groups, the groups displaced by force or capitalist predatory economies, and the historically privileged groups, since they are part of the community too.

The reach of decolonization depends on the composition of the communities. In countries in south america, where indigenous majorities were exploited under the spanish and then white national elites, decolonization will seek to elevate local languages and bridge political and educational gaps, among other things, so the republics are ruled, truly and for the first time, under the will of their people.

On the other hand, in places like the former United States, decolonization might imply symbolic and material reparations in money and land to tribal nations, recognition of sovereignty in the places where they live and work, and joint decision making alongside the diasporic communities in the USA, like african-americans, asian-americans, latines and people from north africa and the middle east, and the white settlers themselves that live in those regions.

It is a dialogue, not a fight, and I agree that it is not something that should be imposed from the top down. I'd suggest that the decolonization initiative should be helmed by a international commission of experts that will work with the communities themselves, who will keep a keen eye on the historical situation so as to keep the process fair for everyone. They will assist the communities to find their best way to start the process of decolonizing themselves, under the guiding hand of the comintern. Let's remember that colonization itself is a product of mercantilism and capitalism, and we need to get rid of its artifacts before we can truly declare ourselves a world spanning socialist commune.

Pacho fucked around with this message at 07:23 on Nov 13, 2020

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!

Pacho posted:

[good post!]

I'd argue that in a scenario where these people have already been freed from capitalism, a lot of the power imbalance that prevents them from governing themselves and from having a voice in their own local affairs would already be gone, and largely what would be left would be to guarantee their cultural sites(because while a socialist state might not bulldoze their temples for profit, it might do so to build housing blocks) and enshrine their right to teach their language and culture in schools(since hiding, twisting or outright banning these is often part of attempting to destroy natives' identities).

But yeah, the details will always come down to the local communities. Some will merely want their cultural artifacts safeguarded, others will feel a need for more(perhaps economic reparations for sites or property destroyed/stolen in the semi-recent past), for some certain symbolic moves(like knocking over the statues of colonizers or at the very least adding plaques recognizing their crimes as well as their accomplsihments, etc.) will give them a feeling that they and their concerns are taken seriously.

welfarestateofmind
Apr 11, 2020



"You are a violent and irrepressible miracle. The vacuum of cosmos and the stars burning in it are afraid of you. Given enough time you would wipe us all out and replace us with nothing -- just by accident."
One thing I'd caution against, as someone who spoke against the proposal as it was originally written, is thinking that a classless future will completely flatten all such divisions and history. PurpleXVI astutely observes that there is still a danger of disenfranchisement. Instead of a housing block, a more pressing example I can imagine is a power plant or heavy industry. We can point to "democracy" as being the answer but we must avoid majoritarian tyranny.

This gets to a deeper question of what we envision that future to look like. In the Soviet Union, a conscious decision was made to make it a union of many nations and ethnicities. We want to mirror that in the Comintern; our objections have been on political, not principled, grounds. We have to have more than good intentions, but sharpened policy.

Do not be mistaken: There have been great moral failures in our history, and even present. The Russian Empire was a colonial project, and the transition to socialism has had its missteps. We would engage in this commission and process as outlined earnestly.

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









I reckon we need the spaceships with the missiles woosh kablammo SECONDING whatever act will produce those

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!

welfarestateofmind posted:

We would engage in this commission and process as outlined earnestly.

Which is, I'd like to point out, probably the most important part.

A well-intentioned set of rules and regulations will be abused if no one wants to follow the spirit of them, while a terrible set of rules and regulations will still largely work out if everyone involved in the bureaucracy knows when and how to bypass or shortcut them for the sake of the citizen on the receiving end. The most important part of a socialist future, in other words, is socialist spirit, to do everything in the spirit of helping, uplifting and enfranchising our fellow human beings(and other sapients in the future), and to engage in projects that inspire this spirit in every citizen of every ethnicity and every culture.

Which isn't to say that we shouldn't make good legislation that's easy to follow, because we absolutely should, but it won't work if the people don't believe in it, and it will work much better if they do.

I ride bikes all day
Sep 10, 2007

I shitposted in the same thread for 2 years and all I got was this red text av. Ask me about my autism!



College Slice

sebmojo posted:

I reckon we need the spaceships with the missiles woosh kablammo SECONDING whatever act will produce those

I can help you with that:

Gen. Uvorvykishki (ret.), Ukrainian Delegate to the People's Congress

I propose we dedicate our 5 year plan to design, research, prototype, and produce a space superiority ship by 1987. We should dedicate resources to building a dedicated 1000 ton shipyard, with at least 3 slipways, to the production of these ships.


Sanev.Khan posted:

ship designs proposals from the Centre d'Analyses Techniques Spatiales (CATS), one of 1000 tons and one of 3000 because I had the time to faff around.
code:
A1 class Patrol Craft      999 tons       31 Crew       78.6 BP       TCS 20    TH 50    EM 0
2503 km/s      Armour 1-8       Shields 0-0       HTK 7      Sensors 0/0/0/0      DCR 0      PPV 3
Maint Life 3.09 Years     MSP 17    AFR 23%    IFR 0.3%    1YR 3    5YR 40    Max Repair 25.00 MSP
Lieutenant Commander    Control Rating 1   
Intended Deployment Time: 3 months    Morale Check Required    

Nuclear Thermal Engine  EP50.00 (1)    Power 50.0    Fuel Use 175.78%    Signature 50.00    Explosion 12%
Fuel Capacity 100,000 Litres    Range 10.3 billion km (47 days at full power)

10cm Railgun V10/C3 (1x4)    Range 10,000km     TS: 2,503 km/s     Power 3-3     RM 10,000 km    ROF 5       
Beam Fire Control R20-TS2500 (1)     Max Range: 20,000 km   TS: 2,500 km/s     31 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Pressurised Water Reactor R3 (1)     Total Power Output 3    Exp 5%

Active Search Sensor AS15-R100 (1)     GPS 700     Range 15.5m km    Resolution 100
Active Search Sensor AS2-R1 (1)     GPS 5     Range 2.8m km    MCR 253.9k km    Resolution 1

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes


Alternatively, should people prefer to stick with existing shipyard infrastructure, the following design would do well:

Sanev.Khan posted:

code:
B1 class Patrol Ship      2,996 tons       88 Crew       255.9 BP       TCS 60    TH 150    EM 0
2503 km/s      Armour 2-18       Shields 0-0       HTK 24      Sensors 5/5/0/0      DCR 1      PPV 9
Maint Life 3.48 Years     MSP 80    AFR 48%    IFR 0.7%    1YR 10    5YR 151    Max Repair 37.50 MSP
Commander    Control Rating 1   BRG   
Intended Deployment Time: 3 months    Morale Check Required    

Nuclear Thermal Engine  EP75.00 (2)    Power 150.0    Fuel Use 143.52%    Signature 75.00    Explosion 12%
Fuel Capacity 250,000 Litres    Range 10.5 billion km (48 days at full power)

10cm Railgun V10/C3 (3x4)    Range 10,000km     TS: 2,503 km/s     Power 3-3     RM 10,000 km    ROF 5       
Beam Fire Control R20-TS2500 (1)     Max Range: 20,000 km   TS: 2,500 km/s     31 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Pressurised Water Reactor R9 (1)     Total Power Output 9.1    Exp 5%

Active Search Sensor AS17-R60 (1)     GPS 780     Range 17.8m km    Resolution 60
Active Search Sensor AS2-R1 (1)     GPS 5     Range 2.8m km    MCR 253.9k km    Resolution 1
Thermal Sensor TH1.0-5.0 (1)     Sensitivity 5.0     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  17.7m km
EM Sensor EM1.0-5.0 (1)     Sensitivity 5.0     Detect Sig Strength 1000:  17.7m km

This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes

On Earth, I propose that we stay the course with our conversion efforts for conventional mining and factory establishments. I believe we should put a strict limit of no more than 20% of our terrestrial industrial might going to any special project for the next 5 years.

Sanev.Khan
Mar 4, 2019

PurpleXVI posted:

A well-intentioned set of rules and regulations will be abused if no one wants to follow the spirit of them, while a terrible set of rules and regulations will still largely work out if everyone involved in the bureaucracy knows when and how to bypass or shortcut them for the sake of the citizen on the receiving end. The most important part of a socialist future, in other words, is socialist spirit, to do everything in the spirit of helping, uplifting and enfranchising our fellow human beings(and other sapients in the future), and to engage in projects that inspire this spirit in every citizen of every ethnicity and every culture.

Which isn't to say that we shouldn't make good legislation that's easy to follow, because we absolutely should, but it won't work if the people don't believe in it, and it will work much better if they do.

I guess sort of related to your post, I'd rather people argue a bit about or suggest guidelines rather than agonize over every tiny word in proposed laws over 10 pages until we're writing legalese more than playing a 4X. (Bit of an exaggeration for now and this case, yes)
Speaking of which, while I suppose delegates could propose any plan or law to the Cominern's many offices, aren't we supposed to play the Ministry of Outer Space Affairs, rather than the Comintern as a whole? With Mister Bates as minister I suppose, or someone else?

I ride bikes all day posted:

Gen. Uvorvykishki (ret.), Ukrainian Delegate to the People's Congress

I propose we dedicate our 5 year plan to design, research, prototype, and produce a space superiority ship by 1987. We should dedicate resources to building a dedicated 1000 ton shipyard, with at least 3 slipways, to the production of these ships.

Alternatively, should people prefer to stick with existing shipyard infrastructure, the following design would do well:
Seconded.

Zurai
Feb 13, 2012


Wait -- I haven't even voted in this game yet!

Isn't producing a dedicated warship a direct breach of law? We'd have to repeal the law banning warships before we started work on one.

I ride bikes all day
Sep 10, 2007

I shitposted in the same thread for 2 years and all I got was this red text av. Ask me about my autism!



College Slice

Zurai posted:

Isn't producing a dedicated warship a direct breach of law? We'd have to repeal the law banning warships before we started work on one.

3 month deployment time, thus strictly dedicated to home system defense.

Sanev.Khan
Mar 4, 2019

Zurai posted:

Isn't producing a dedicated warship a direct breach of law? We'd have to repeal the law banning warships before we started work on one.

As I ride bikes all day said. It fits.

quote:

The Ministry of Outer Space Affairs is officially classified as a civilian organization, and its mission statement clarified to emphasize peaceful exploration of space above all. Ministry armed vessels will, in first contact scenarios, not fire unless fired upon, and will always prioritize peaceful and diplomatic conduct in future interactions. The development or construction of warships is banned, with the exception of those strictly necessary to ensure the defense of humanity. In game terms, this means that any armed spacecraft larger than 1000 tons must have either a deployment time of less than three months (to allow for defensive and short-ranged patrol vessels), an explicit and specific scientific or exploratory role for which its weapons are necessary (subject to the interpretation of the People's Congress), or one of the following: a Diplomacy Module, Geosurvey or Gravsurvey Sensors, large passive sensors, or a missile magazine that is kept loaded at least 50% with sensor drones/buoys or survey drones/buoys during peacetime. CIWS do not count as weapons for the purposes of this restriction, and this restriction is immediately voided should the Comintern ever find itself in a state of war with another spacefaring power or civilization.

Happerry
Nov 4, 2011
Out of sadness of the lack of medals and ribbons, I made some up by doodling around in the ribbon maker until I had some that I thought looked good.


Here's the Honorable Mention Ribbon, which is... well, for whenever a character does something cool enough that we think they should get a medal out of it, but it's not so cool we want to give them the Ultima Honorifica or something like that. Something like 10 or 20 points worth of promotion-ness probably?


Next up is the Outstanding Service Ribbon, which is like the Honorable Mention Ribbon but, you know, twice as good. For when people do really nice things, like that research breakthrough a while back that was mentioned would have probably got a medal if we'd made any by then. Incidentally, we might want to give that guy this one for that.


There's also this Combat Honor Ribbon for, well, people who see combat. Not one ribbon per combat mind you, just one ribbon if you've seen combat at all. So people know who's been shot at and who hasn't.


Following after the Combat Honor Ribbon is this Survival Ribbon. The way to get it? Survive getting your ship shot out from underneath you. Or survive some non-combat ship destroying accident without the board of review deciding it's your fault the ship went kaboom. Either way, if someone has it they've probably spent time in a lifepod. If they have a lot of them, well...


And then we have this Outstanding Combat Ribbon for people who go above and beyond merely fighting and achieve victory despite the odds. If you keep being a protagonist and continue winning despite things being stacked against you, you can keep getting more of these.


Space is dark and cold and there are few things as important as friends out in the void. The Space Rescue Ribbon is for those whom make space a bit less dark and cold by rescuing lifepods despite personal hardship or danger.


The Voyager Ribbon is a simple ribbon designed to recognize one sole fact. The fact that anyone with this ribbon was one of the first people in to a new and unexplored star system. (IE, the Discover New Star System condition)


Lastly, the New World Ribbon is for recognizing those who have found a new inhabitable world.

Happerry fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Nov 13, 2020

zanni
Apr 28, 2018

Happerry posted:

Out of sadness of the lack of medals and ribbons, I made some up by doodling around in the ribbon maker until I had some that I thought looked good.

-ribbons-

If it is necessary for medals to be seconded, I second these being added!

Foxfire_
Nov 8, 2010

I ride bikes all day posted:

I can help you with that:

Gen. Uvorvykishki (ret.), Ukrainian Delegate to the People's Congress

I propose we dedicate our 5 year plan to design, research, prototype, and produce a space superiority ship by 1987. We should dedicate resources to building a dedicated 1000 ton shipyard, with at least 3 slipways, to the production of these ships.

Is this proposing to research and build these ships specifically (also have you checked that it is even possible to research all the precursor stuff, components, and build a yard for it in 5 years), or just to set a goal and have a future session do designs?

I like the ribbons


e: from a long time ago

Sanev.Khan posted:

Problem is, we don't have enough scientists with the right specialties. The construction/production techs are definitely more important than the others, right now. I'll second it if we wait until after we're finished with at least the mining and wealth techs.
Which production techs do you see as immediately vital? I think the only fundamental one is construction speed:
- The mining things will mostly just be changing how big stockpiles are since a fully-converted earth will mine faster than we can spend anyway.
- Fuel, maintenance, and shipbuilding won't be relevant until we start major shipbuilding which is gated by having other techs to make things worth building
- Research speed isn't worth chasing because the research output drop from brute forcing it is bigger than the gain from having it
- Wealth matters until we get positive again, but we can do that with industry and industry is less scarce than research

Foxfire_ fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Nov 13, 2020

Zurai
Feb 13, 2012


Wait -- I haven't even voted in this game yet!

Technically the ship would need to have less than 3 months of deployment time, but that's pedantic. Objection withdrawn.

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?

Happerry posted:

Out of sadness of the lack of medals and ribbons, I made some up by doodling around in the ribbon maker until I had some that I thought looked good.


Here's the Honorable Mention Ribbon, which is... well, for whenever a character does something cool enough that we think they should get a medal out of it, but it's not so cool we want to give them the Ultima Honorifica or something like that. Something like 10 or 20 points worth of promotion-ness probably?


Next up is the Outstanding Service Ribbon, which is like the Honorable Mention Ribbon but, you know, twice as good. For when people do really nice things, like that research breakthrough a while back that was mentioned would have probably got a medal if we'd made any by then. Incidentally, we might want to give that guy this one for that.


There's also this Combat Honor Ribbon for, well, people who see combat. Not one ribbon per combat mind you, just one ribbon if you've seen combat at all. So people know who's been shot at and who hasn't.


Following after the Combat Honor Ribbon is this Survival Ribbon. The way to get it? Survive getting your ship shot out from underneath you. Or survive some non-combat ship destroying accident without the board of review deciding it's your fault the ship went kaboom. Either way, if someone has it they've probably spent time in a lifepod. If they have a lot of them, well...


And then we have this Outstanding Combat Ribbon for people who go above and beyond merely fighting and achieve victory despite the odds. If you keep being a protagonist and continue winning despite things being stacked against you, you can keep getting more of these.


Space is dark and cold and there are few things as important as friends out in the void. The Space Rescue Ribbon is for those whom make space a bit less dark and cold by rescuing lifepods despite personal hardship or danger.


The Voyager Ribbon is a simple ribbon designed to recognize one sole fact. The fact that anyone with this ribbon was one of the first people in to a new and unexplored star system. (IE, the Discover New Star System condition)


Lastly, the New World Ribbon is for recognizing those who have found a new inhabitable world.

Seconded, these are really nice

I ride bikes all day
Sep 10, 2007

I shitposted in the same thread for 2 years and all I got was this red text av. Ask me about my autism!



College Slice

Foxfire_ posted:

Is this proposing to research and build these ships specifically (also have you checked that it is even possible to research all the precursor stuff, components, and build a yard for it in 5 years), or just to set a goal and have a future session do designs?

Like many great politicians, I have no fricken idea. I don't actually play this game, and I want to be involved. That's about it.

Sanev.Khan
Mar 4, 2019

Foxfire_ posted:

Which production techs do you see as immediately vital? I think the only fundamental one is construction speed:
- The mining things will mostly just be changing how big stockpiles are since a fully-converted earth will mine faster than we can spend anyway.
- Fuel, maintenance, and shipbuilding won't be relevant until we start major shipbuilding which is gated by having other techs to make things worth building
- Research speed isn't worth chasing because the research output drop from brute forcing it is bigger than the gain from having it
- Wealth matters until we get positive again, but we can do that with industry and industry is less scarce than research

I more meant "more important to finish those we have going than optimizing our scientists and abandoning C/P projects" since the mismatched scientists' techs are close to finish I think?
Otherwise, yeah, in general, I'd still rather we have higher levels in those technologies and strong stockpiles before researching much into the shooty bits.

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

ooc: How do scientists improve in this game? However it happens, someone needs to propose that process happening for me. That bonus is atrocious and I'd like to be useful.

Mister Bates
Aug 4, 2010
Deliberations are closed!

By next legislative session I hope to have moved submission, amending, seconding, and voting on proposals to offsite utilities, leaving the thread just for gameplay, plot, debate, and discussion. For now though we'll be doing this the old-fashioned way. I'm working on the vote post now and will have it up later this evening.

I appreciate everyone's contributions to the game and am glad it's generated these discussions. As an indigenous Marxist in real life I'm particularly happy that it's got people thinking about what indigenous sovereignty and 'reparations' look like in a hypothetical socialist future. That's not really how I expecting our space boat LARP to go but I don't mind at all.

That having been said, this is primarily a game, and I'd like to think a game among friends, so priority number one is that we have fun. If at any point discussion in this thread is making you uncomfortable or you feel that the lines between in-character aggression and out-of-character hostility are becoming blurred, please speak up (in PMs if you're not comfortable doing it in here), and we'll see what we can do to resolve it in a friendly way. I don't think that's become necessary yet, but just in case it does, I want to have that out there.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface

idhrendur posted:

ooc: How do scientists improve in this game? However it happens, someone needs to propose that process happening for me. That bonus is atrocious and I'd like to be useful.

Literally time. Its an event that can happen each tick.

Foxfire_
Nov 8, 2010

idhrendur posted:

ooc: How do scientists improve in this game? However it happens, someone needs to propose that process happening for me. That bonus is atrocious and I'd like to be useful.

Do research in your specialty. As long as we don't pull your lab or move you to a non-sensors project, you will accumulate XP and eventually get better.

zanni
Apr 28, 2018

Mister Bates posted:

I appreciate everyone's contributions to the game and am glad it's generated these discussions. As an indigenous Marxist in real life I'm particularly happy that it's got people thinking about what indigenous sovereignty and 'reparations' look like in a hypothetical socialist future. That's not really how I expecting our space boat LARP to go but I don't mind at all.

i definitely wasnt expecting or intending to spark that whole thing with my initial proposal, but im glad that it was a positive addition for you! i was worried i might have kinda spurred something that would be upsetting for indigenous folks to read in here

decolonialization is definitely an absolutely necessary step for a proper global socialist society tho, so im glad that it looks like the steps towards that will be at the least voted on!

Mister Bates
Aug 4, 2010

Sanev.Khan posted:

Nice update, and interesting fluff on the mines.

Could you change Radia Zaytsev's "training" research from 15cm Carronade to Turret Tracking Speed please? (another Energy Weapons tech, more useful) Is me asking nicely enough, or does it need to be put up to a vote?

We discussed it last time and people seemed in favor enough and we have the resources, so I'd suggest building a new military academy on Earth. Not by using all of our industrial output, just enough of it right now that it'd take a year and half or so to build, and leave the percentage as it is. Hopefully, with the growing industries on the side, it'll actually be done in a year. Once it's built, a return to the normal mine/factory bounces for the next four years, unless something else is proposed to be built, or all of our industry is converted.
And to leave the Earth academies under the administration of a scientist as they are right now I think, so that they generate yet more scientists.

Also I propose repealing I-31, the five year plans, and a return to the one-year plans, because it's going to get annoying and it's not super compatible with yearly updates, our rapid teching-up and we'll need more flexibility when we've finished converting our industry. And also, we're already reconvening every year anyway.

I don't see it on the reports, how are we on the wealth side of things? I know it doesn't matter much to us godless commies, but the game likely still cares a lot.
And do we have enough maintenance facilities for all our ships?

First off, since the 'training research' was selected more or less at random, and no one else suggested a different one, I'll just be changing that without needing a vote.

SK-38 is a simple proposal that we establish a new Military Academy on Earth. This is a significant construction project, costing more than 100 factory conversions, but will result in doubling our output of new officers, administrators, scientists, and enlisted crew.

SK-39 proposes we switch back from five-year plans to one-year plans.



HiHo ChiRho posted:

I am formally proposing that we start working efforts to realign the remaining ex US polities in North America to being under the Comintern.

I figure we could work on with two simultaneous steps: 1) Continuing our public outreach by offering aid and support to the communities of the former USA, and 2) Step up intelligence actions, connecting with and supplying materials to communist groups in those areas to help influence the populations there to shift support it the Comintern.

Ideally we focus on the polities on the east coast first, as if there were any GLADIO held locations supporting any hostile naval forces based out the North Sea, they'd be there.

HC-40 proposes that we begin working towards diplomatically integrating the remaining unaligned areas of North America into the Comintern.

Servetus posted:

I would like to put forward my own plan.

I propose that we make the capability to decrypt the GLADIO network a research priority; and until we achieve that capability and have it deployed in the field we play our cards close to the vest. We should keep our disruptions of their network minimal to disguise our surveillance until we have broken their codes and identified the North sea contact. Then we can determine the best way to launch a decisive strike.


As an addendum; while this is not part of the main proposal I would ask that comrades well-versed in military design weigh in on the design of craft or ground batteries with point defense capable of stopping a pre-TNE missile attack. Should the worse come to pass and GLADIO possesses a submarine still capable of launching a missile attack, we must be ready to defend the people.

S-41 proposes that we prioritize the research of the ELINT Module technology and deploy it as soon as possible, and until then refrain from taking offensive action against the GLADIO network.

Asterite34 posted:

2) Proposal for EM and Thermal scan of Mars in anticipation of a formal Xenoarcheology expedition to Cydonia. The Cydonia Ruins are potentially incalculably valuabe, but we can't rule out that they're not as dead as we'd like. A further orbial scan can be done per Foxfire_'s earlier workshopping:

Following on this, and assuming the area is secure, a specialist team trained in Xenoarcheology should be sent to do a proper and thorough excavation of the ruins. The facilities in Barsoom will serve as a convenient base camp.

A-42 proposes that we undertake an extremely simple (50RP) research project to develop a small nuclear thermal engine, design small interplanetary ships mounting the FESTER passive surveillance sensors (can be built in a few weeks without a shipyard), and send them to scan the Mars ruins.

Veloxyll posted:

The Extraplanetary Discovery Focus Act
It is proposed that we commence appropriate research and equipping of a team to explore the alien ruins on Mars as a matter of priority. We have known for some time about the existence of alien life. That they had an in system facility is troubling in the extreme. We should immediately start investigating its secrets to ensure we are better prepared for whatever comes.

JR-43 proposes that we research Xenoarchaeology Team and Troop Transport Bay and equip a team to explore the Mars ruins. Lessons learned from the Hawaiians' somewhat haphazard settlement of Luna, and study of their ships (with their permission), will give you an effective 50% discount on the Troop Transport Bay technology, as humanity already has experience moving huge numbers of people through space.

Antilles posted:

Let's see, since we're currently operating on 5-year targets:

Comrades, the Kalmar Union wishes to propose a long-term plan to centralize the administrative functions of ComIntern. With more and more of Earth’s citizens joining the ComIntern cause, the founding of our first colony Lunagrad and the creation of a research outpost on Mars, alongside likely one or more mining outposts in the near future, we fear what may happen if the ComIntern administrative apparatus does not grow and adapt to our changing circumstances.
As such we would like to propose research into both an administrative center suitable to oversee the entire planet and however many colonies and outposts we end up establishing in our solar system, as well as a suitable facility to house it. We suggest Paolo Soleri’s concept of an arcology, a large sealed self-sustaining facility not unlike our off-world colony setups. This would also allow us to follow the example set by MOSA’s choice of Ascenscion Island and construct it somewhere sufficiently remote and inhospitable to be considered neutral.
Of course, we do not wish to create an ivory tower, away from the plights and concerns of our comrades, so any staff placed there must be rotated out, say every five years, and if any representatives choose to take up an office there they too must spend, say four months every year in their home territory.
1. Research Improved Command & Control. 2. Build a Sector Command facility on Earth (possibly with some amount of Infrastructure that is then deleted to represent it being an arcology?). 3. Change Sector Governor every 5 years.

We would also like to propose the following instructions to our diplomatic corps, to see if we can improve relations with currently neutral states:
1.Contact the Indian Communist parties and through them "negotiate" a trade of large number of pre-fab housing and basic infrastructure in exchange for their surplus food. If they agree, the surplus food will then be distributed by the Socialist Aid Program to where it's needed most.
2. Offer the Arabic League if they join ComIntern they'll get the first fuel refinery and resources to train engineers and scientists in this field. While the monopolies and profit-seeking of the old oil industry cannot be repeated, hopefully getting the chance to become our most experienced experts in this field will sweeten the bitter pill.
3. Try to convince Japan to agree to similar levels of cooperation as with Hawaii, opening the door for trade and certain low-level manufacturing/research projects between ComIntern and Japan.


However we deal with GLADIO we feel like we should release if not publicly then at least to all relevant parties the basic facts (i.e. not revealing the existence of secret spy satelites) of GLADIO and their mission, to ward off potential infiltration of GLADIO cells into these organizations and if we're lucky the reveal of a common foe will make negotiating with some of these groups easier.
I-44 is a plan for developing interplanetary governmental and administrative infrastructure, by researching the Sector Command technology and building a huge dedicated permanent structure to house the Comintern's government.

I-45 is a set of instructions to the Comintern's diplomatic corps, involving overtures to the nations of India, Japan, and the Arab bloc.

Pacho posted:

The NOMAD Collective Seconds this proposal

We also present again, the Venera Initiative 2.0, research the technologies needed for habitation and mining operations in Venusian CloudSpace/low orbit and start these mining colonies when the technologies are researched. As not to fight with other research proposals, the number of labs needed for this can be negotiated with them

P-46, the Venera Initiative, proposes that we establish a research and development project aimed at establishing aerostat colonies in the Venusian upper atmosphere. As written, its labs will be dynamically allocated so as not to conflict with other research proposals, to a minimum of one lab if all others are spoken for.

NewMars posted:

The UAWR would like to propose the Trans-newtonian Global Network Project.

This project is as follows:

The creation of a complete integrated mass transit network based on the goal of connecting every populated area on the planet from village to metropolis. The major focus being on connecting isolated, rural or war-torn areas where separatist and revanchist areas like GLADIO recruit and operate. Secondary priorities are to replace automotive infrastructure beginning with areas where it has been neglected, assaulted or sabotaged with the gradual goal of replacing the usage of the car for non-specialized civilian tasks entirely. Mass transit options are to include, but not be limited to: train, subway, monorail and tram networks.

It is our sincere hope that this will result in connecting the world. When any human, no matter their status can travel from Beijing to Cape Town on the same network, unobstructed, the freedom of socialism will be made manifest to all. Small-minded beliefs flourish in the absence of others. For over a decade road wars raged across the Continent, from the Meanjin Commune to the Union cities to the capitalist holdouts of the west coast. Every small town and village became an island, surrounded by wilderness and the roads only a reminder of how alone they are. Trans-newtonian rail projects in Australia have helped to heal this continent and turn it from lights in a desert night to a community again. I can only hope it does so well for the rest of the world.

NM-47, the Trans-Newtonian Global Network Project, proposes the development of a global Trans-Newtonian mass transit network. This is a colossal undertaking, and will cost you a few thousand units of Duranium and Mercassium, in addition to occupying an additional ten percent of global industrial capacity for five years (meaning your industrial conversions will be operating at a total of 74% maximum efficiency for the next five years). In addition to significant political and social effects, this project will, upon completion, give you two Construction/Production techs, Construction Rate and Wealth Generation, total research cost 10000RP, for free.

Foxfire_ posted:

Proposal: Organizational wealth Capacity
If we are actually at negative monthly balance, bump CI->Organizational Center conversion to the top of the industrial queue until monthly balance becomes positive, then go back to CI->factories


Proposal: Long term research efficiency and scientist development
This proposal is to implement prioritized research in a way that doesn't hamper long-term total scientific output and professional development.

Under our current system, prioritized research topics are implemented by minimizing the time for that project at the expense of everything else. For example, Orbital Mining Module is currently being researched by a spacecraft propulsion expert because they are capable of organizing half of our entire lab network onto a single topic, minimizing the time to completion. However, that means that (1) research per lab is low since the project leader is not a production expert, and (2) the leader is spending all their time dealing with the basics of this new field and will not improve either their specialty or administrative capability.

This proposal would change that to:
- Unless specifically directed otherwise, implement research priorities by assigning the project to the most skilled scientist in the appropriate field, then giving them the maximum number of labs they can operate.
This will delay prioritized projects, but increases the total research output of the scientific community, and allows for skill growth in the lead researchers. The effect is not small, a fully in-specialty research community is about 1.6X as productive as what we are doing now and that will rise as leaders gain experience

F-48, Organizational Capacity, proposes we prioritize bringing organizational and administrative infrastructure online in order to better manage the new economy. You are actually at a very small negative balance right now, about -700. I didn't notice, whoops.

F-49, Long-Term Research Efficiency, proposes a new default method for assigning scientists for research projects, that would maximize our Research Point output overall.

Pacho posted:

Also, not sure if this qualifies as a proposal, but We suggest that all out xeno-archeology, xeno-antropology and xeno-biology efforts should be linked under a new supranational agency called the Xeno-Studies for Cosmic Ontological Materialism or X-COM, a peaceful intitiative seeking to understand other forms of life in the universe

P-50 will establish X-COM, a peaceful agency assigned to the task of studying and understanding extraterrestrial life. X-COM's field assets, including ground teams, spacecraft, stations, drones, etc., will operate as a subcommand of MOSA, and it will be established as an Administrative Command, initially of the 'Survey' type (this may be changed later, and subordinate commands of X-COM may be established should you deem it necessary).

zanni posted:

There have been some good points raised, along with some.. exaggerated responses.. but I think, on reflection... parts of my proposal and the logic behind them was flawed. HiHo ChiRho, thatbastardken, and Rubix Squid especially raise valid points.

As a result, I would like to retract my previous proposal, and instead introduce a new bill. It would share a lot with the defunct INRA, but with a few key differences.

The Indigenous Restitution and Protection Act would include:
-Paying monetary reparations to indigenous peoples affected by colonialism, such as the First Nations of North America, Aboriginal peoples of Australia, and other native groups that have had their culture and wellbeing endangered by cultural assimilation, disenfranchisement, and economic exploitation.
-Offering full assistance via the Socialist Aid program to said affected communities.
-Creating an official ComIntern organization to guide decolonization efforts among ComIntern nations, including advisement, mediation, and representing a unified decolonialist front.
-Creating an additional ComIntern organization to facilitate the regrowth and preservation of Indigenous culture, language, and beliefs, including services such as reclamation of looted cultural artifacts, indigenous language courses, preservation and protection of important cultural and spiritual sites, and to encourage a dialogue with Indigenous peoples and the larger Socialist sphere.
-Offering training programs in TNE-specific industrial and scientific applications for employment in MOSA and related agencies.

I hope that this will better suit the Committee.

Z-51, the Indigenous Restitution and Protection Act, lays out a proposed framework for addressing the issue of decolonization in the Comintern, including the creation of two departments of the Comintern government specifically for this function.

I ride bikes all day posted:

I can help you with that:

Gen. Uvorvykishki (ret.), Ukrainian Delegate to the People's Congress

I propose we dedicate our 5 year plan to design, research, prototype, and produce a space superiority ship by 1987. We should dedicate resources to building a dedicated 1000 ton shipyard, with at least 3 slipways, to the production of these ships.




Alternatively, should people prefer to stick with existing shipyard infrastructure, the following design would do well:




I-52 suggests that we direct research and development efforts towards being able to produce a run of railgun-armed system defense craft within five years, in order to protect against either missile launches from terrestrial sources or possible hypothetical alien threats.

I made a big error when recording this originally, the industrial cap was probably intended as a separate proposal and was not seconded, so I edited it out. If you see this and already voted, feel free to edit your vote for I-52 if this would change your opinion on it.

welfarestateofmind posted:

Our caucus in the Kremlin has two recommendations of our own.

[1] Lunplan Expansion: with the TNE deposits on Luna, a major expansion of infrastructure to accommodate a larger population there. We should prioritize the resources we have the most access to until we have reached a critical mass of resource extraction, while building up as a secondary venture our Martian expansion. Since our focus is already on construction and mining, this should not greatly hamper our larger five year plan.

For this reason, we'd oppose any other settlement efforts at this time, though that's not an actual proposal in itself.

[2] Ribbon Medals: We propose the following three ribbons for "firsts" within the Comintern. These should be retroactively awarded to all who qualify.

The Pathfinder Medal, also known as the Cobb Ribbon, will be awarded to all members of a first landed expedition on another planet.

The Architect of the Socialist Future Medal, also known as the Order of Lysenko, will be granted for those who spend 5 years on an extraplanetary outpost in an administrative position for the Comintern, as a reward for their service away from home building interplanetary socialism. This will only be granted to those who left their home planet, which down the line might include others other than Earth.

The First Contact Medal will be granted to all those in an expedition wherein first contact is made with an extant extraterrestrial polity.

In response and approval of the proposal for a new Comintern structure, we have two additional recommendations.

[3] The designation of the Comintern be changed to the Communist Interplanetary, though the abbreviation remains the same.

W-53 proposes that we manufacture and deploy a large run of additional life support infrastructure to Luna as soon as reasonably possible.

W-54 is a bunch of cool medals.

W-55 will formally rename the Communist International the Communist Interplanetary.


Happerry posted:

Out of sadness of the lack of medals and ribbons, I made some up by doodling around in the ribbon maker until I had some that I thought looked good.


Here's the Honorable Mention Ribbon, which is... well, for whenever a character does something cool enough that we think they should get a medal out of it, but it's not so cool we want to give them the Ultima Honorifica or something like that. Something like 10 or 20 points worth of promotion-ness probably?


Next up is the Outstanding Service Ribbon, which is like the Honorable Mention Ribbon but, you know, twice as good. For when people do really nice things, like that research breakthrough a while back that was mentioned would have probably got a medal if we'd made any by then. Incidentally, we might want to give that guy this one for that.


There's also this Combat Honor Ribbon for, well, people who see combat. Not one ribbon per combat mind you, just one ribbon if you've seen combat at all. So people know who's been shot at and who hasn't.


Following after the Combat Honor Ribbon is this Survival Ribbon. The way to get it? Survive getting your ship shot out from underneath you. Or survive some non-combat ship destroying accident without the board of review deciding it's your fault the ship went kaboom. Either way, if someone has it they've probably spent time in a lifepod. If they have a lot of them, well...


And then we have this Outstanding Combat Ribbon for people who go above and beyond merely fighting and achieve victory despite the odds. If you keep being a protagonist and continue winning despite things being stacked against you, you can keep getting more of these.


Space is dark and cold and there are few things as important as friends out in the void. The Space Rescue Ribbon is for those whom make space a bit less dark and cold by rescuing lifepods despite personal hardship or danger.


The Voyager Ribbon is a simple ribbon designed to recognize one sole fact. The fact that anyone with this ribbon was one of the first people in to a new and unexplored star system. (IE, the Discover New Star System condition)


Lastly, the New World Ribbon is for recognizing those who have found a new inhabitable world.

H-56 is more cool medals.


In Summary

Nothing here necessarily contradicts anything else and we can technically try to do everything here, so there's no ranked list votes this time. Vote either Yes or No on the following items:

SK-38, Expand Interkosmos Academy
SK-39, Repeal Five-Year Plans
HC-40, Integrate North America
S-41, Research and Deploy Spying Technology
A-42, Surveil the Mars Ruins
JR-43, The Extraplanetary Focus Discovery Act
I-44, Administrative Overhaul
I-45, Diplomatic Overtures
P-46, Venera Initiative 2.0
NM-47, the Trans-Newtonian Global Network Project
F-48, Organizational Capacity
F-49, Long-Term Research Efficiency
P-50, X-COM
Z-51, IRPA
I-52, Armed Spacecraft Development
W-53, Lunplan Expansion
W-54, Medals
W-55, Rename the Comintern
H-56, More Medals

Voting is now open and will remain open for 48-72 hours.

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sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


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In Summary

New Zealand people's Republic votes:

SK-38, Expand Interkosmos Academy YES
SK-39, Repeal Five-Year Plans YES
HC-40, Integrate North America YES
S-41, Research and Deploy Spying Technology NO
A-42, Surveil the Mars Ruins YES
JR-43, The Extraplanetary Focus Discovery Act YES
I-44, Administrative Overhaul YES
I-45, Diplomatic Overtures NO
P-46, Venera Initiative 2.0 NO
NM-47, the Trans-Newtonian Global Network Project YES
F-48, Organizational Capacity YES
F-49, Long-Term Research Efficiency YES
P-50, X-COM gently caress YES
Z-51, IRPA YES
I-52, Armed Spacecraft Development YES YES YES
W-53, Lunplan Expansion NO
W-54, Medals YES
W-55, Rename the Comintern YES
H-56, More Medals YES

Voting is now open and will remain open for 48-72 hours.
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SavageGentleman
Feb 28, 2010

When she finds love may it always stay true.
This I beg for the second wish I made too.

Fallen Rib
SK-38: No
SK-39: No
HC-40: No
S-41: No
A-42: Yes
JR-43: Yes
I-44: No
I-45: Yes
P-46: No
NM-47: Yes
F-48: No
F-49: Yes
P-50: Yes
Z-51: Yes
I-52: Yes
W-53: No
W-54: Yes
W-55: Yes
H-56: Yes

NewMars
Mar 10, 2013
The Union of Australasian Worker's Republics votes as follows:

SK-38: No
SK-39: Yes
HC-40: Yes
S-41: Yes
A-42: Yes
JR-43: Yes
I-44: Yes
I-45: Yes
P-46: Yes
NM-47: Yes
F-48: Yes
F-49: Yes
P-50: Yes
Z-51: Yes
I-52: No
W-53: Yes
W-54: Yes
W-55: Yes
H-56: Yes

Sanev.Khan
Mar 4, 2019
SK-38, Expand Interkosmos Academy: Yes
SK-39, Repeal Five-Year Plans: Yes
HC-40, Integrate North America: Yes
S-41, Research and Deploy Spying Technology: Yes
A-42, Surveil the Mars Ruins: Yes
JR-43, The Extraplanetary Focus Discovery Act: Yes
I-44, Administrative Overhaul: Yes, are we going to vote on sector governors every 5 years or will you just change from one to another possible candidate?
I-45, Diplomatic Overtures: Yes
P-46, Venera Initiative 2.0: No
NM-47, the Trans-Newtonian Global Network Project: Yes
F-48, Organizational Capacity: Yes
F-49, Long-Term Research Efficiency: Yes
P-50, X-COM: Yes
Z-51, IRPA: Yes
I-52, Armed Spacecraft Development: Yes
W-53, Lunplan Expansion: No
W-54, Medals: Yes
W-55, Rename the Comintern: No
H-56, More Medals: Yes

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zanni
Apr 28, 2018

The CWC votes as follows:

SK-38, Expand Interkosmos Academy YES
SK-39, Repeal Five-Year Plans YES
HC-40, Integrate North America YES
S-41, Research and Deploy Spying Technology YES
A-42, Surveil the Mars Ruins YES
JR-43, The Extraplanetary Focus Discovery Act YES
I-44, Administrative Overhaul YES
I-45, Diplomatic Overtures YES to part 1 and 2 of this proposal, but not to part 3
P-46, Venera Initiative 2.0 YES
NM-47, the Trans-Newtonian Global Network Project YES
F-48, Organizational Capacity YES
F-49, Long-Term Research Efficiency YES
P-50, X-COM YES
Z-51, IRPA YES
I-52, Armed Spacecraft Development YES
W-53, Lunplan Expansion YES
W-54, Medals YES
W-55, Rename the Comintern YES
H-56, More Medals YES

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