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The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Mister Bates posted:

One of them, Political Reliability, is completely useless and does literally nothing, except count as a skill for generating promotion score.

This is the most important attribute our officers can have. Is there any way we can increase the weighting given to it in deciding promotions, or attach medals to it somehow?

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The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Now, how do we take it out without missiles being launched?

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

I don't think a railgun shot will destroy a submarine that deep. It's protected by hundreds of metres of ablative armour.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Anyone who has remained in place this long must be extremely committed to their sadly-misguided 'cause'. I do not think a mere threat of death will sway them.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

I guess the competitor to the boatstuck plan is the boatmurdered plan where we murder everyone on the boat by blowing it up with torpedoes?

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

We may actually get less intelligence, since they'll have plenty of time to destroy everything.

Hmm... when we play the message we should play it loud. Loud enough to resonate the hull and get the entire crew to hear it, not just the hydrophone operator. Maximises the chance of enlisted crew refusing a suicidal order from their officers.

The Lone Badger fucked around with this message at 10:09 on Jul 8, 2021

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Which one was the +/- Fanatics thread again?

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Servetus posted:

It could also mean "That's a load of Bollocks, you're bluffing". It's quite an ambiguous word.

They went active-sonar. They know exactly where all six of our submarines are, and that all our submarines know exactly where they are.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

NewMars posted:

Of all the potential scenarios, this is the one I didn't think of.

I had assumed the captain was going to prevent this scenario by keeping the information from the rest of the crew. Clearly he did not succeed in doing so.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

NewMars posted:

I have many questions. I guess this calls for a general alert, too. But.. I can't get it out of my mind: what is Huges floating in?

Tang.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

If only we had a gigantic railgun in orbit.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Aliens are not a concern. Any civilisation advanced enough to achieve interstellar travel will obviously be advanced enough to have achieved communism, and will greet us as brothers.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

I just don't get what destroying the slipways was intended to gain them. GLADIO doesn't have any spacecraft, militarised or otherwise. This was never going to be a war between space-battleships, so how does reducing our ability to create them advance their cause?

This was unquestionably a victory, and I don't think there's another shoe about to drop, but it raises as many questions as answers.

I move that the captured weapons have their cores reprocessed into fuel rods for civilian nuclear reactors. Let us beat their swords into ploughshares.

The Lone Badger fucked around with this message at 09:59 on Sep 17, 2021

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Crazycryodude posted:

That probably ends with "lol so turns out the Americans lost like 200 warheads and nobody has any idea where they are now," if we can even get records on what their pre-war arsenal was and what was expended during the war. But an inventory of as much as we can manage is definitely a good idea, I'm just expecting the final conclusion to be "so we have all the COMINTERN nukes tagged but zero idea what happened to a bunch of the capitalist ones or even exactly how many the capitalists had in the first place."

Converting a nuclear warhead to a demolition munition is actually a pretty major task. They're usually specifically designed to not work when trying to use them outside whatever specific conditions they were designed for - e.g. an ICBM warhead has internal sensors that expect to feel strong acceleration, then free fall, then deceleration accompanied by heat and pressure. If any of these measured values are not within the expected ranges, the detonator will not fire.
Changing this can be done (and we know for a fact that GLADIO has done it) but it requires pulling the warhead apart and rebuilding some quite important parts of it. We could possibly look for workshops and personnel capable of doing that?

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Volmarias posted:

:ussr:

This is absolutely going to get turned into a justification. I'm just glad that Japan appears to have seen which side of their bread has butter, and which side is glass.

They want to be the ones in possession of the captives and the documents, because they don't want us seeing them.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

NewMars posted:

I can definitely say at this point that Japan is not working with GLADIO, whatever the situation was before.

They did help destroy intelligence/evidence.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Kitfox88 posted:

I mean, civilian nuclear plants can't really be used for anything beyond like, dirty bombs via waste, after all. Making a functional nuclear warhead is a Really Difficult Thing.

To make nuclear warheads in any kind of quantity you need plutonium. Plutonium does not occur naturally. The best place to get it is from 'spent' fuel rods that have been used in a nuclear reactor.
You can build special reactors that are much better for this purpose, but an ordinary civilian electricity-generating one will do fine. That's why nuclear-proliferation and nuclear-power are connected. A nation with no nuclear plants cannot build nukes except by the extremely slow and painstaking process of enriching uranium to 90%+

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Kitfox88 posted:

Oh, I thought you explicitly needed a breeder reactor :nyoron:

A breeder reactor produces plutonium faster and more efficiently, but that's just a question of how long you need to let the rods age in the reactor before they're good to reprocess.
There are thorium-based reactors that do not produce plutonium, but they're generally inferior to uranium ones for power production. Their main advantage is the fact that they can't be used in weapons production meaning they don't make other countries nervous.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

NewMars posted:

RIP to ferrosol, you died with honor as the first goon death in space.

He will be missed, unlike the british empire, to which can only be said good riddance.

Also about the american forum: apparently the only ones not participating worth mentioning are.. the joint chiefs, the government in exile and the federal government. We've got texas and new england on board, as well as carter's lot and.. surprisingly, the true american coalition based around that one airbourne general in the rockies?

Nobody wanted to be associated with the former-USA, and everyone was suddenly very eager to publicly demonstrate how not-associated-with-the-former-USA they were.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

It's not just the maintenance, you need highly skilled people to build a brand new detonator system for each bomb - the old one will refuse to work because you're not using it 'right'.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Why don't we set up XCOM on a base on Phobos? Conveniently near to Mars but far enough away not to step on anyone's toes at the dig site. They can play with weird science and alien relics in peace and safety.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Mister Bates posted:

Once the ceremonies have concluded, the Socialist World Exhibition officially opens. Though channeling the spirit of the old World's Fairs, this will be a much different event. Both for security reasons and also because of the sheer size of the burgeoning world government, no one city could host such an event - instead, for the rest of the year, a rotating selection of events will be held worldwide, showcasing all the various unique characters of the Comintern's member bodies.

All Communists Are Beautiful.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

The Safe Skies Act proposes that weapons be forbidden from being placed in space, with an exception for small numbers of handheld devices for police work. These horrible 'railguns' will not sit in orbit to menace the nations below, nor will there be a new colonialism with space-gunboats imposing terms on independant habitats.

The Lone Badger fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Dec 3, 2021

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Asterite34 posted:

Well, I mean, we kinda should have at least one, ya know?

Technically the safe skies act doesn't forbid designing an armed spacecraft, or technically even building one groundside as long as it never leaves atmosphere.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

paragon1 posted:

I'm sure a hostile alien force will be more than happy to give our cosmonauts time to unmothball their ships, and then give them even more time to dust off the operations manual and refresh themselves on how the whole thing works. It's not like invasions happen on rapid, rigid timetables or anything.

Are we to be like the capitalists then, creating a self-fulfilling prophecy of mistrust and violence as each prepares for the 'inevitable' betrayal by the others? If there are travellers among the stars we must greet them with an open hand and the spirit of universal brotherhood, not the barrel of a gun, lest we once again repeat the tragedy of Earth's past.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

TDS posted:

If it is such a good deal, then why force people into it? And that doesn't answer the question of what happens to people who refuse, do they get jailed for life until they relent?

Gulag.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Mister Bates posted:

The captain apparently ordered an emergency blow, intending to try to fire off all of his remaining missiles as soon as they surfaced, wildly, without really targeting them, in the hope that they'd hit something valuable somewhere. Some of the bridge crew were strongly opposed to this idea, and, when he attempted to have them relieved of duty, well, one thing lead to another.

I've just been thinking.... these men's actions saved probably a hundred million lives. Should we give them some kind of decoration?

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

I feel at the very least they should get a dacha and a sinecure. Obviously never actually trust them with anything, but we want it to he clear that betraying the reactionaries will be rewarded. (As long as you can actually deliver)

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Antilles posted:

A suggestion was raised in the discord that our long (, long, long) term goal for Earth should be to move as much of the population as possible off-world, move the rest into specially prepared arcologies/space stations/ring station and turn Earth into a garden world, a green and blue jewel among the stars.

So you're saying the Comintern would rule the space between worlds?

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

See? Proof that these aliens are socialist. Capitalists would have opened fire.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

mossyfisk posted:

They did it first, to be fair.

I think these may be prisoners marooned here. Why else would they have nothing capable of launch, no gravity sensors?

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Mister Bates posted:

They send back one of their own, an image of something that looks like a big knobbly slug.

Wanna pet it.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Redeye Flight posted:

So, rather than just kind of staple this on to one of my other proposals where it wouldn't really fit, I'd like to propose we rename the EXCALIBUR weapons systems to "Blue Bolt" weapons systems.

You want to arm our spacecraft with BB guns?

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Have we learned nothing from history? We shall not revisit colonialism!

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

There aren't going to be more opportunities for people to secretly acquire a nuke, so there is no need for a demonstration to discourage people from acquiring secret nukes. We do want to encourage people who already have a secret nuke to hand it over (before the capitalists steal it). So logically we want to praise and reward Ireland.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

GunnerJ posted:

Get anything in space moving fast enough and it may as well be!

A solid munition can't be fitted with a proximity detonator though, it either scores a hard hit or it misses completely.

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

A 'peace moon' of some kind?

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The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Affi posted:

So is this may 1st when we clobber all remaining capitalist nations until they go full commie with us?

No, May 1st is when the oppressed workers of those nations rise up and and overthrow their masters in a way that has no visible connection to us.

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